What Is The Republican Path To Victory?

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

It does the exact same thing as FOX, except it is liberal.

It really doesn't, no.

MSNBC has a slant, yes--but a slant isn't bad in and of itself as long as it's based on an intellectually honest analysis.

FOX, on the other hand, lies and has an established record of literally making shit up.

[Minnysota]

It really doesn't, no.

says one of the most liberal people on a very liberal-leaning site

MSNBC has a slant, yes--but a slant isn't bad in and of itself as long as it's based on an intellectually honest analysis.

to call MSNBC's "slant" an intellectually honest analysis suggests that they actually put intellectual thought into their broadcasts... they are the polar opposites of FOX in every way

FOX, on the other hand, lies and has an established record of literally making shit up.

and MSNBC's Ed Show pulled one example of an African American lady whom Obamacare "helped" and praised it as proof that it is the best system for everyone.

they. both. do. the. exact. same. things.

[Alien Space Bats]

It does the exact same thing as FOX, except it is liberal.

It really doesn't, no.

MSNBC has a slant, yes--but a slant isn't bad in and of itself as long as it's based on an intellectually honest analysis.

FOX, on the other hand, lies and has an established record of literally making shit up.

This. MSNBC will retract errors when it is informed of them. FOX, OTOH, will not.

[Minnysota]

it is every bit as partisan as FOX

i mean i don't see how you can claim otherwise without being a flatout hardline liberal... and i thought you were a somewhat moderate liberal, ASB

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

It really doesn't, no.

says one of the most liberal people on a very liberal-leaning site

I'm not a liberal. At all.

A liberal is just a right-winger with sense enough to throw the oppressed masses a bone every now and then so they won't revolt and threaten hir unjustly-privileged position.

I'm a leftist.

[Minnysota]

I'm a leftist.

which is obviously the context in which i'm using it

[Blasveck]

it is every bit as partisan as FOX

i mean i don't see how you can claim otherwise without being a flatout hardline liberal... and i thought you were a somewhat moderate liberal, ASB

Partisanship isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Deliberately lying and not correcting errors, however, is.

[Minnysota]

Partisanship isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Deliberately lying and not correcting errors, however, is.

in an american society where one of the biggest issues with politics is the extreme partisanship in government you're seriously trying to say that blatant and extreme partisanship in media is not a problem?

[The Nuclear Fist]

It does the exact same thing as FOX, except it is liberal. Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz are strong counters of Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly.

Except MSNBC doesn't blatantly make shit up and go to court defending their slander by admitting they're not news.

Which Fox did.

[Nigerian Kenya]

MSNBC is partisan, and may stretch the truth, but it won't lie and will correct errors if informed of them. Fox is not only partisan, but it also frequently tells blatant lies and will not correct errors, ever. The two stations are not equally bad.

Just watch them and you'll see that Rachel Maddow is much better at citing sources than Chris Wallace.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Marco Rubio

He appeals to minorities.

What makes you think that? I've seen no evidence to indicate as much, but people keep saying it. Is there some sort of poll I'm unaware of?

[Blasveck]

Partisanship isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Deliberately lying and not correcting errors, however, is.

in an american society where one of the biggest issues with politics is the extreme partisanship in government you're seriously trying to say that blatant and extreme partisanship in media is not a problem?

Did I say that precise thing? No.

I would argue that MSNBC isn't nearly as partisan as FOX.

But not by much.

[Minnysota]

rachel maddow is a terrible host and literally nothing she says should be listed to

my point is clear: we shouldn't rely on televised media for political information

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Well, "Rather smoothly" isn't "perfectly", to be sure, but the bugs on the back end are being worked out, and the insurance cancellations, while hideous, will likely be out of the news by midterms.

Well, except for those voters who were victims of Obama's bald-faced lie.

A statistically insignificant number, as horrible as that was.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

rachel maddow is a terrible host and literally nothing she says should be listed to

my point is clear: we shouldn't rely on televised media for political information

I thought that your point had to do with a false equivalence between just Fox and MSNBC, not all televised media.

[Reploid Productions]

rachel maddow is a terrible host and literally nothing she says should be listed to

my point is clear: we shouldn't rely on televised media for political information

And I do believe the 'Fox vs MSNBC - Who has the bias?!' debate is a tad beyond the scope of the topic. Perhaps we can nudge back in the direction of "So... news. How could it affect the Republican party's strategy if they want to secure victory?"


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Geilinor]

I'm a leftist.

which is obviously the context in which i'm using it

That's not what "liberal" means. Social liberal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism

[The Crunchy Frog]

Zei really should stop demonizing the french, and our wonderful system. If the finally go the way of the frog, zen, zei will finally be able to win elections.

You know, it's not easy to always bring zis back to frogs.

[Vetalia]

A statistically insignificant number, as horrible as that was.

A few million people combined with many more millions who have had their premiums drastically increased isn't statistically insignificant, to say nothing of all the employers forced to deal with this mess.

[ALMF]

What, the website that seems to be running rather smoothly as of today's deadline?

I think he wants the Republican Party to hire hackers.

Want's to? Or did?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

A statistically insignificant number, as horrible as that was.

A few million people combined with many more millions who have had their premiums drastically increased isn't statistically insignificant, to say nothing of all the employers forced to deal with this mess.

Let me correct that: After subsidies, the benefits of more comprehensive insurance, and the GOP putting up candidates who are far, far worse than the alternative, the remainder who are still voting based upon problems associated with the ACA will be statistically insignificant.

[ALMF]

it is every bit as partisan as FOX

i mean i don't see how you can claim otherwise without being a flatout hardline liberal... and i thought you were a somewhat moderate liberal, ASB

Its the left's version of CNN not Fox a self bleaved "objective" centrist leaning network.

[ALMF]

I'm a leftist.

which is obviously the context in which i'm using it

If true that wold make you a trole: I, therefore, hope your lieing.

[Maineiacs]

Marco Rubio

He appeals to minorities.

Haven't you read enough of this thread to understand the fallacy inherent in identity politics? If his views don't mesh with those of a majority of Hispanic voters (much less African-Americans), he won't do better among minorities than Romney did.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

Marco Rubio

He appeals to minorities.

Haven't you read enough of this thread to understand the fallacy inherent in identity politics? If his views don't mesh with those of a majority of Hispanic voters (much less African-Americans), he won't do better among minorities than Romney did.

Here's the thing, though. Brown people lack the mental capacity to actually seriously understand issues; therefore, they make their voting decisions based on who looks most like them.