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Luveria
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Postby Luveria » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:23 am

Phocidaea wrote:
Luveria wrote:Yes we do need more agender/gendeerqueer/androgyne/transgender/bigender/trigender people here too. Diversity is the spice of life. More females would help diversity too.


I'm more keen on having it reflect the actual population at least slightly TBH. I'm not saying we should go and kick out the current [prefix]gender folks, but, honestly, that's one group that the internet doesn't need any more of.

I think there are almost as many MtF transsexuals here as there are cisgender females. People are entitled to both use this site freely and consider themselves whatever gender they want... but come on, internet!.

Do you have statistics on what the actual gender diversity of the population is?

What does it matter what someone's gender is? That kind of attitude just makes people feel uncomfortable that they don't conform to the gender binary.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:24 am

Luveria wrote:
Phocidaea wrote:
I'm more keen on having it reflect the actual population at least slightly TBH. I'm not saying we should go and kick out the current [prefix]gender folks, but, honestly, that's one group that the internet doesn't need any more of.

I think there are almost as many MtF transsexuals here as there are cisgender females. People are entitled to both use this site freely and consider themselves whatever gender they want... but come on, internet!.

Do you have statistics on what the actual gender diversity of the population is?

What does it matter what someone's gender is? That kind of attitude just makes people feel uncomfortable that they don't conform to the gender binary.


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Postby Romberg » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:34 am

Couldn't care less. It'd be great if there were more gender equality in terms of active posters here, but ultimately, NS is a political simulation "game" and roleplaying simulation thing, not a dating site. I'd only consider by nation - who I'm RPing with, and not who the person behind the nation is.

I'm a member of the majority here btw.
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Postby Kaamnaayein » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:36 am

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Postby Mkuki » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:40 am

I don't care, really. For me everyone is male until proven otherwise.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:42 am

I'm neutral to it but it does not mean I wouldn't mind seeing more female or trans people joining the site.
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Postby Luveria » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:53 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Luveria wrote:Do you have statistics on what the actual gender diversity of the population is?

What does it matter what someone's gender is? That kind of attitude just makes people feel uncomfortable that they don't conform to the gender binary.


Stop posting quick or we'll go beyond our quota.

But I don't have labour quotas anymore.

Romberg wrote:Couldn't care less. It'd be great if there were more gender equality in terms of active posters here, but ultimately, NS is a political simulation "game" and roleplaying simulation thing, not a dating site. I'd only consider by nation - who I'm RPing with, and not who the person behind the nation is.

I'm a member of the majority here btw.

Oh how wrong you are.

Mkuki wrote:I don't care, really. For me everyone is male until proven otherwise.

Do you expect them to prove it to you by showing you their little bits? Sex and gender are different things so even if you had photographic visual evidence it wouldn't indicate anything.

SaintB wrote:I'm neutral to it but it does not mean I wouldn't mind seeing more female or trans people joining the site.

True neutral would be having no opinion and not leaning either way. By trans people do you mean only MtFs since you mention more females?

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Postby Harkonna » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:03 am

Dakini wrote:Except that they don't (and I can't believe nobody else pointed out that this is wrong). Financially, divorce is often detrimental to women. It's getting better, but only because the income divide is getting smaller.

You guys either had parents with highly unusual circumstances or perhaps not since later California refers to living next to a crack house with his mom afterwards... so I'm going to go with skewed perspective on this one.

No individual is ENTITLED to have the same quality of life that they had when another was willingly sharing their own income with them, and has since rescinded it. If divorce is so detrimental to women, either don't get divorced, or don't get married. Getting on by your own power is more telling of personal strength and integrity anyway.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:05 am

I don't think of it.
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Postby Dakini » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:06 am

Harkonna wrote:
Dakini wrote:Except that they don't (and I can't believe nobody else pointed out that this is wrong). Financially, divorce is often detrimental to women. It's getting better, but only because the income divide is getting smaller.

You guys either had parents with highly unusual circumstances or perhaps not since later California refers to living next to a crack house with his mom afterwards... so I'm going to go with skewed perspective on this one.

No individual is ENTITLED to have the same quality of life that they had when another was willingly sharing their own income with them, and has since rescinded it. If divorce is so detrimental to women, either don't get divorced, or don't get married. Getting on by your own power is more telling of personal strength and integrity anyway.

....

You're aware that I was responding to people who claimed that women make out like bandits after a divorce, right? So I was just pointing out that this is generally not the case.


How about you learn to read before you talk to me.

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Postby Harkonna » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:07 am

Dakini wrote:....

You're aware that I was responding to people who claimed that women make out like bandits after a divorce, right? So I was just pointing out that this is generally not the case.


How about you learn to read before you talk to me.

I'd much rather spout obtuse levels of snark at you until you explode. That seems to be my strong point.
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Postby Mkuki » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:08 am

Luveria wrote:
Mkuki wrote:I don't care, really. For me everyone is male until proven otherwise.

Do you expect them to prove it to you by showing you their little bits? Sex and gender are different things so even if you had photographic visual evidence it wouldn't indicate anything.


No need to get all weird and defensive. It's a simple process, really. When a user says whether they are male or female or whatever else then I'll address them as such with the appropriate pronoun.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:10 am

Diopolis wrote:I say I really, emphasis on the really, don't care.


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Postby Dakini » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:10 am

Harkonna wrote:
Dakini wrote:....

You're aware that I was responding to people who claimed that women make out like bandits after a divorce, right? So I was just pointing out that this is generally not the case.


How about you learn to read before you talk to me.

I'd much rather spout obtuse levels of snark at you until you explode. That seems to be my strong point.

That was supposed to be snark?

Really?

'Cause it just came off like you don't know how to read so you might want to work on that.

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Postby Harkonna » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:12 am

Dakini wrote:That was supposed to be snark?

Really?

'Cause it just came off like you don't know how to read so you might want to work on that.

Well you come across like you're covered in foetid pile of dead skinks. So you should probably work on that. Right now.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:13 am

I'd like more womenz here. D:
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:14 am

Olthar wrote:I'd like more womenz here. D:

Well, who wouldn't?
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Postby Araraukar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:16 am

The Scandinavian AlThing wrote:Ps dont tell me you ARE a "Nice dirty Girl/Tomboy" because if you do THEN I WILL KNOW that you are a 55yr old trucker pedophile, or some other Emo-Hipster-Tranny! :evil:

And if someone said they were "a 55yr old trucker pedophile"? Would you then believe they're a "Nice dirty Girl/Tomboy"? :P
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Postby Harkonna » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:17 am

Araraukar wrote:
The Scandinavian AlThing wrote:Ps dont tell me you ARE a "Nice dirty Girl/Tomboy" because if you do THEN I WILL KNOW that you are a 55yr old trucker pedophile, or some other Emo-Hipster-Tranny! :evil:

And if someone said they were "a 55yr old trucker pedophile"? Would you then believe they're a "Nice dirty Girl/Tomboy"? :P

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Postby Nua Corda » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:18 am

I really couldn't care less about gender in general. People turn it into a bloody standard to wave everywhere, like it makes them ultra-special kawaii desu, when it's really pretty low on the list of relevant issues today. You got nuts? You got tits? Good for you. I don't give a shit, as long as you're a decent person.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:19 am

The Scandinavian AlThing wrote:Ps dont tell me you ARE a "Nice dirty Girl/Tomboy" because if you do THEN I WILL KNOW that you are a 55yr old trucker pedophile, or some other Emo-Hipster-Tranny! :evil:


Don't worry. I won't.
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Postby Dakini » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:19 am

Harkonna wrote:
Dakini wrote:That was supposed to be snark?

Really?

'Cause it just came off like you don't know how to read so you might want to work on that.

Well you come across like you're covered in foetid pile of dead skinks. So you should probably work on that. Right now.

Oh, your subtle snide remarks are truly awe inspiring.

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Postby Nua Corda » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:20 am

Harkonna wrote:
Dakini wrote:That was supposed to be snark?

Really?

'Cause it just came off like you don't know how to read so you might want to work on that.

Well you come across like you're covered in foetid pile of dead skinks. So you should probably work on that. Right now.


That's probably flaming, but I'm too lazy to report it. Might want to take that back b4 someone else does.
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Postby Araraukar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:22 am

Luveria wrote:By trans people do you mean only MtFs since you mention more females?

Well, FtMs would count as male, wouldn't they? Thus adding to the "mainly male population".
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Postby Harkonna » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:22 am

Dakini wrote:Oh, your subtle snide remarks are truly awe inspiring.

On a scale of one to awe, they're pretty awe, I must say. Subtlety is my strong suit, after all.
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