What do you think of NS's mainly male population?

[Condunum]

Its hypocrisy. We want even our Amish Mafioso's to be fuckin' around on the sly. We're like our fellow primates, with an overt mating structure, and a hell of a lot of off the clock work happenin' at the 'gasm factory.

I'm kidding, I believe what you're describing about your parents. But I think a lot of other americans just pay lip service to Puritan founding ideals.

The way I see it is, they have deep respect for the big heroic balls of holiness the Puritans had to make their nation into the totalitarian theocratic hell-hole in which they wish all of North America could be.

That's not pedophilia. But yes, that's bad. it's advocating something that's illegal.

And it's two separate things.

Even though it has literally nothing to do with me in any direct way, I cannot tolerate the immense hate that pedophiles receive. It's not their faults. They deal with their philia on a day to day basis, and many of them overcome the desires, hell, most of them would never touch a child in that way, because what person would want to do something like that to the people they adore, knowing full well the damage it will cause?

Pedophiles shouldn't be held high for their problem, but they shouldn't be ostracized for it either. It's on par with any other thought crime.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The way I see it is, they have deep respect for the big heroic balls of holiness the Puritans had to make their nation into the totalitarian theocratic hell-hole in which they wish all of North America could be.


And it's two separate things.

Even though it has literally nothing to do with me in any direct way, I cannot tolerate the immense hate that pedophiles receive. It's not their faults. They deal with their philia on a day to day basis, and many of them overcome the desires, hell, most of them would never touch a child in that way, because what person would want to do something like that to the people they adore, knowing full well the damage it will cause?

Pedophiles shouldn't be held high for their problem, but they shouldn't be ostracized for it either. It's on par with any other thought crime.

As I said earlier, it's not that we have to treat them as subhuman but, forgive me here, I do not support or applaud their choices (if they make them). I won't treat a pedophile as a lesser person but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am totally ok with their pedophilia. I'm not.

[Forsher]

The character of the Eternal Thread definitely changed with the 500 page cap.

I think it's also that the former posters of TET are no longer there, with a few exceptions and the character of the new posters is different to the one of TET on its inception. TET used to be fun, then it turned into a pity fest and these days... I don't fucking know what's up.

The 500 page cap did have one quite noticeable effect, it sort of got a bit spammier. And I know I was one of the people that wanted to be on page one and get to page 500, but I also tried to do the same thing for page 4000 etc.

[Luveria]

The way I see it is, they have deep respect for the big heroic balls of holiness the Puritans had to make their nation into the totalitarian theocratic hell-hole in which they wish all of North America could be.


And it's two separate things.

Even though it has literally nothing to do with me in any direct way, I cannot tolerate the immense hate that pedophiles receive. It's not their faults. They deal with their philia on a day to day basis, and many of them overcome the desires, hell, most of them would never touch a child in that way, because what person would want to do something like that to the people they adore, knowing full well the damage it will cause?

Pedophiles shouldn't be held high for their problem, but they shouldn't be ostracized for it either. It's on par with any other thought crime.

The immense hatred bothers me too.
What makes it different than most thought crimes is they didn't just one day decide to have the attractions they have, yet they are given hate for it like they somehow chose it.

Even though it has literally nothing to do with me in any direct way, I cannot tolerate the immense hate that pedophiles receive. It's not their faults. They deal with their philia on a day to day basis, and many of them overcome the desires, hell, most of them would never touch a child in that way, because what person would want to do something like that to the people they adore, knowing full well the damage it will cause?

Pedophiles shouldn't be held high for their problem, but they shouldn't be ostracized for it either. It's on par with any other thought crime.

As I said earlier, it's not that we have to treat them as subhuman but, forgive me here, I do not support or applaud their choices (if they make them). I won't treat a pedophile as a lesser person but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am totally ok with their pedophilia. I'm not.

I don't think anyone's advocating to be okay with the act of pedophilia.

[Condunum]

Even though it has literally nothing to do with me in any direct way, I cannot tolerate the immense hate that pedophiles receive. It's not their faults. They deal with their philia on a day to day basis, and many of them overcome the desires, hell, most of them would never touch a child in that way, because what person would want to do something like that to the people they adore, knowing full well the damage it will cause?

Pedophiles shouldn't be held high for their problem, but they shouldn't be ostracized for it either. It's on par with any other thought crime.

As I said earlier, it's not that we have to treat them as subhuman but, forgive me here, I do not support or applaud their choices (if they make them). I won't treat a pedophile as a lesser person but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am totally ok with their pedophilia. I'm not.

And I'm not saying anything different from that.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I think it's also that the former posters of TET are no longer there, with a few exceptions and the character of the new posters is different to the one of TET on its inception. TET used to be fun, then it turned into a pity fest and these days... I don't fucking know what's up.

The 500 page cap did have one quite noticeable effect, it sort of got a bit spammier. And I know I was one of the people that wanted to be on page one and get to page 500, but I also tried to do the same thing for page 4000 etc.

TET does goes fast, I give you that. I always thought the 500 page cap was a server performance issue.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

As I said earlier, it's not that we have to treat them as subhuman but, forgive me here, I do not support or applaud their choices (if they make them). I won't treat a pedophile as a lesser person but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am totally ok with their pedophilia. I'm not.

And I'm not saying anything different from that.

Condy, sweetie, I am aware. I'm just saying that in part, I do understand the reaction. I'm not supporting that either, but I would be a hypocrite if I said that I am ok with pedophilia when I'm not. Is it a problem if I add that?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Even though it has literally nothing to do with me in any direct way, I cannot tolerate the immense hate that pedophiles receive. It's not their faults. They deal with their philia on a day to day basis, and many of them overcome the desires, hell, most of them would never touch a child in that way, because what person would want to do something like that to the people they adore, knowing full well the damage it will cause?

Pedophiles shouldn't be held high for their problem, but they shouldn't be ostracized for it either. It's on par with any other thought crime.

The immense hatred bothers me too.
What makes it different than most thought crimes is they didn't just one day decide to have the attractions they have, yet they are given hate for it like they somehow chose it.

As I said earlier, it's not that we have to treat them as subhuman but, forgive me here, I do not support or applaud their choices (if they make them). I won't treat a pedophile as a lesser person but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am totally ok with their pedophilia. I'm not.

I don't think anyone's advocating to be okay with the act of pedophilia.

*sigh*

You, of course, would think I said people are advocating to be ok with pedophilia. Read my statement, please.

[Suicune]

Obviously it would be better to have more gender diversity. However, it probably won't happen.

[Condunum]

Even though it has literally nothing to do with me in any direct way, I cannot tolerate the immense hate that pedophiles receive. It's not their faults. They deal with their philia on a day to day basis, and many of them overcome the desires, hell, most of them would never touch a child in that way, because what person would want to do something like that to the people they adore, knowing full well the damage it will cause?

It's with that same logic that people condemn the immigrant for their culture being different, the gay for liking their gender, the transsexual for not being their biological sex, the genderqueer for not being cisgender. Thought crimes, no matter what they are, are intolerable. While it is arguable that from a moral standpoint, something which through subjective fact can be shown to be harmful should not be applauded, the source is not to be condemned, but understood and changed. Condemnation gets us nowhere.

[Forsher]

The 500 page cap did have one quite noticeable effect, it sort of got a bit spammier. And I know I was one of the people that wanted to be on page one and get to page 500, but I also tried to do the same thing for page 4000 etc.

TET does goes fast, I give you that. I always thought the 500 page cap was a server performance issue.

It is. A side effect was the sort of "race" to 500 and to be on the first page (particularly first post). I think the ultimate consequence of that was the change in the thread's character.

[Condunum]

And I'm not saying anything different from that.

Condy, sweetie, I am aware. I'm just saying that in part, I do understand the reaction. I'm not supporting that either, but I would be a hypocrite if I said that I am ok with pedophilia when I'm not. Is it a problem if I add that?

No, not at all. I just don't want there to be any misconception that I'm applauding pedophilia in any way shape or form.

[Luveria]

It's with that same logic that people condemn the immigrant for their culture being different, the gay for liking their gender, the transsexual for not being their biological sex, the genderqueer for not being cisgender. Thought crimes, no matter what they are, are intolerable. While it is arguable that from a moral standpoint, something which through subjective fact can be shown to be harmful should not be applauded, the source is not to be condemned, but understood and changed. Condemnation gets us nowhere.

That's how I feel about it. It really isn't much different than hating someone for liking the 'wrong' gender. Condemnation only alienates people and makes them more likely to act on their desires when they feel hated by society no matter what they do.

[Condunum]

TET does goes fast, I give you that. I always thought the 500 page cap was a server performance issue.

It is. A side effect was the sort of "race" to 500 and to be on the first page (particularly first post). I think the ultimate consequence of that was the change in the thread's character.

The thread size cap started when the Flaming WOmbat hit something over 6K pages, and we started to break the forum. Like, literally, it started to break.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

TET does goes fast, I give you that. I always thought the 500 page cap was a server performance issue.

It is. A side effect was the sort of "race" to 500 and to be on the first page (particularly first post). I think the ultimate consequence of that was the change in the thread's character.

One thing U truly hated and I don't know if it's still done, tbqh, is the countdown to the thread being closed, We're on page 400, but no, instead of enjoying it, it's the ''100 pages left!' hur. *sigh* I think I outgrew TET too.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Condy, sweetie, I am aware. I'm just saying that in part, I do understand the reaction. I'm not supporting that either, but I would be a hypocrite if I said that I am ok with pedophilia when I'm not. Is it a problem if I add that?

No, not at all. I just don't want there to be any misconception that I'm applauding pedophilia in any way shape or form.

At least, on my part, I don't think you are applauding it.

[Condunum]

It's with that same logic that people condemn the immigrant for their culture being different, the gay for liking their gender, the transsexual for not being their biological sex, the genderqueer for not being cisgender. Thought crimes, no matter what they are, are intolerable. While it is arguable that from a moral standpoint, something which through subjective fact can be shown to be harmful should not be applauded, the source is not to be condemned, but understood and changed. Condemnation gets us nowhere.

That's how I feel about it. It really isn't much different than hating someone for liking the 'wrong' gender. Condemnation only alienates people and makes them more likely to act on their desires when they feel hated by society no matter what they do.

Indeed. I find that the condemnation comes from a gut feeling of disgust, one which is either ingrained by society at a young age or instinctual. Either way, it is not a firm basis for condemnation. Like you said, that only makes them feel hated, and even ostracized and outcasted.

[Luveria]

The immense hatred bothers me too.
What makes it different than most thought crimes is they didn't just one day decide to have the attractions they have, yet they are given hate for it like they somehow chose it.


I don't think anyone's advocating to be okay with the act of pedophilia.

*sigh*

You, of course, would think I said people are advocating to be ok with pedophilia. Read my statement, please.

I didn't want you to assume I'm somehow supporting pedophilia by being opposed to pedophiles being hated just for being pedophiles, but my mistake about that.

[Condunum]

*sigh*

You, of course, would think I said people are advocating to be ok with pedophilia. Read my statement, please.

I didn't want you to assume I'm somehow supporting pedophilia by being opposed to pedophiles being hated just for being pedophiles, but my mistake about that.

Methinks Nana's wording was a big confusing, there

[Forsher]

It is. A side effect was the sort of "race" to 500 and to be on the first page (particularly first post). I think the ultimate consequence of that was the change in the thread's character.

The thread size cap started when the Flaming WOmbat hit something over 6K pages, and we started to break the forum. Like, literally, it started to break.

I knew that the massive threads did have an upper limit but it was so insanely high no-one noticed. I mean, TET was so long that hardly posting in it at all still meant that I would end up with more posts in it than threads I would post in twenty times a day or more.

It is. A side effect was the sort of "race" to 500 and to be on the first page (particularly first post). I think the ultimate consequence of that was the change in the thread's character.

One thing U truly hated and I don't know if it's still done, tbqh, is the countdown to the thread being closed, We're on page 400, but no, instead of enjoying it, it's the ''100 pages left!' hur. *sigh* I think I outgrew TET too.

Unintended consequences have long reaching effects.

It's probably time for something new. Maybe one last hurrah and then no more eternal thread, TET: The Final Countdown (except, perhaps not that title and I have a feeling it has already been done).

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

*sigh*

You, of course, would think I said people are advocating to be ok with pedophilia. Read my statement, please.

I didn't want you to assume I'm somehow supporting pedophilia by being opposed to pedophiles being hated just for being pedophiles, but my mistake about that.

I'm not assuming anything, about what you think or not or anyone else for that matter on the subject. I'm saying that I, Nanatsu no Tsuki, won't be a hypocrite and say pedophiles are A Ok on my book when they act on their desires. I don't condone that behavior, I don't applaud it, I don't support it. I do not treat pedophiles as subhuman but I am not peachy with their behavior.

Do I understand what Condunum is saying and why he's reacting to some statements made in this thread? Yes.

[2nd Baron of Moyne]

I didn't want you to assume I'm somehow supporting pedophilia by being opposed to pedophiles being hated just for being pedophiles, but my mistake about that.

Methinks Nana's wording was a big confusing, there

It is my considered opinion that nobody here is saying anybody here is applauding pedophiles.

In any case, I believe they prefer kazoos to applause. Cognitive scientists hope to one day understand why.

Fund science!

[Luveria]

That's how I feel about it. It really isn't much different than hating someone for liking the 'wrong' gender. Condemnation only alienates people and makes them more likely to act on their desires when they feel hated by society no matter what they do.

Indeed. I find that the condemnation comes from a gut feeling of disgust, one which is either ingrained by society at a young age or instinctual. Either way, it is not a firm basis for condemnation. Like you said, that only makes them feel hated, and even ostracized and outcasted.

I don't think the disgust is instinctual or young marriages wouldn't have been so common as they were until somewhat recently in human history. I think the disgust comes from society makes it into one of the scariest of big bads, when it's really molesters that are the problem, yet all pedophiles are treated with that same hatred.

I didn't want you to assume I'm somehow supporting pedophilia by being opposed to pedophiles being hated just for being pedophiles, but my mistake about that.

Methinks Nana's wording was a big confusing, there

I concur. I felt a need to specify I wasn't advocating pedophilia, since it's natural for most people to assume being opposed to hating something is related to being approving of it.

[Condunum]

The thread size cap started when the Flaming WOmbat hit something over 6K pages, and we started to break the forum. Like, literally, it started to break.

I knew that the massive threads did have an upper limit but it was so insanely high no-one noticed. I mean, TET was so long that hardly posting in it at all still meant that I would end up with more posts in it than threads I would post in twenty times a day or more.

I can't remember when the breakdown started, but I know that the Wombat slowed down, server side, around 5K pages, and around the middle of 6K pages (I might be wrong and it might be 7K and 8K) the forum was kicking us off and giving out error messages, breaking pages with flags being missing or in the middle of the page, paragraphs even overlapping sometimes. 'Twas quite funny to see.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The thread size cap started when the Flaming WOmbat hit something over 6K pages, and we started to break the forum. Like, literally, it started to break.

I knew that the massive threads did have an upper limit but it was so insanely high no-one noticed. I mean, TET was so long that hardly posting in it at all still meant that I would end up with more posts in it than threads I would post in twenty times a day or more.

One thing U truly hated and I don't know if it's still done, tbqh, is the countdown to the thread being closed, We're on page 400, but no, instead of enjoying it, it's the ''100 pages left!' hur. *sigh* I think I outgrew TET too.

Unintended consequences have long reaching effects.

It's probably time for something new. Maybe one last hurrah and then no more eternal thread, TET: The Final Countdown (except, perhaps not that title and I have a feeling it has already been done).

I imagine that since the Wombat was closed down, at some point TET will too.