What do you think of NS's mainly male population?

[Zweite Alaje]

And if sex has nothing to do with knowledge, then what's the problem with recruiting some more ladies?

It's the same thing.

Maybe women aren't as politically aware as men on average, ever thought of that?

[Esternial]

And if sex has nothing to do with knowledge, then what's the problem with recruiting some more ladies?

It's the same thing.

Since when has NSG been all about knowledge?

Have you even looked around this place?

[The Steel Magnolia]

And if sex has nothing to do with knowledge, then what's the problem with recruiting some more ladies?

It's the same thing.

Maybe women aren't as politically aware as men on average, ever thought of that?

I'm assuming you're parodying the position?

[The Steel Magnolia]

Bringing us right back to my initial statement; that one's sex is utterly meaningless in discussion.

Let me guess...you're a young, straight, (probably) white, male?

Oh of course he is. He's 'genderblind' and 'colourblind.'

[Zweite Alaje]

Maybe women aren't as politically aware as men on average, ever thought of that?

I'm assuming you're parodying the position?

Uh, no. At least in my experience, the women I've met have almost no political knowledge, while the men I know at least have the basics covered.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I'm assuming you're parodying the position?

Uh, no. At least in my experience, the women I've met have almost no political knowledge, while the men I know at least have the basics covered.

Well, that might be your experience... but I'd hardly say it's a hard and fast general rule.

[Aurora Novus]

Bringing us right back to my initial statement; that one's sex is utterly meaningless in discussion.

Let me guess...you're a young, straight, (probably) white, male?

Wrong.

Nice flaunting of your own bias though.

Now try making an actual point.

[Nadkor]

Let me guess...you're a young, straight, (probably) white, male?

Wrong.

Oh, yeah, I totally believe you.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Wrong.

Oh, yeah, I totally believe you.

How much do you want to bet that it's "wrong" because he's "not young, he's nineteen," or "not straight, he's asexual," or "not white, he's 1/32nd Cherokee" or something along those lines?

[Zweite Alaje]

Oh, yeah, I totally believe you.

How much do you want to bet that it's "wrong" because he's "not young, he's nineteen," or "not straight, he's asexual," or "not white, he's 1/32nd Cherokee" or something along those lines?

Would it even matter if he were a white straight male? Is that some sort of crime now?

Uh, no. At least in my experience, the women I've met have almost no political knowledge, while the men I know at least have the basics covered.

Well, that might be your experience... but I'd hardly say it's a hard and fast general rule.

Fair enough. But it is interesting, the disparity in NSG's demographics.

[Aurora Novus]

Wrong.

Oh, yeah, I totally believe you.

So let me get this straight.

1) Rather than address my arguments, you attempt to attack my character by insinuating I fit into some neat little class of people you don't like. Setting aside that this is a logical fallacy...
2) When I tell you you are wrong, rather than recognize your preconceived bias against me as flawed, you merely dismiss your own fault, and continue to hold onto your beliefs dogmatically by accusing me of lying.

Oh that willful ignorance.

[Nailed to the Perch]

How much do you want to bet that it's "wrong" because he's "not young, he's nineteen," or "not straight, he's asexual," or "not white, he's 1/32nd Cherokee" or something along those lines?

Would it even matter if he were a white straight male? Is that some sort of crime now?

Not in the slightest. It is, however, pretty much the only demographic that has the luxury of arguing that race, gender, and orientation do not affect one's life experiences.

[Esternial]

Oh, yeah, I totally believe you.

So let me get this straight.

1) Rather than address my arguments, you attempt to attack my character by insinuating I fit into some neat little class of people you don't like. Setting aside that this is a logical fallacy...
2) When I tell you you are wrong, rather than recognize your preconceived bias against me as flawed, you merely dismiss your own fault, and continue to hold onto your beliefs dogmatically by accusing me of lying.

Oh that willful ignorance.

No need to get so upset, lad.

[Individuality-ness]

Oh, yeah, I totally believe you.

How much do you want to bet that it's "wrong" because he's "not young, he's nineteen," or "not straight, he's asexual," or "not white, he's 1/32nd Cherokee" or something along those lines?

Hey, I'm asexual/questioning. I'm also not a jerk.

Sorry. I have no patience to be nice right now.

[Mr Summertime Noposts]

Would it even matter if he were a white straight male? Is that some sort of crime now?

Not in the slightest. It is, however, pretty much the only demographic that has the luxury of arguing that race, gender, and orientation do not affect one's life experiences.

Look, all I'm saying is, nobody has ever assaulted ME because of the fact that I'm white, or male, or straight.

So clearly discrimination doesn't happen.

[Aurora Novus]

Would it even matter if he were a white straight male? Is that some sort of crime now?

Not in the slightest. It is, however, pretty much the only demographic that has the luxury of arguing that race, gender, and orientation do not affect one's life experiences.

Which again, matters...why?

There's no reason to bring it up in the first place, unless you are trying to use it as a tool to dismiss my claims. So why bring it up if you concede it doesn't matter? Why pander to it as anything relevant?

Stick to arguments, and not character attacks. You'll look better for it in the future.

[Nadkor]

Oh, yeah, I totally believe you.

How much do you want to bet that it's "wrong" because he's "not young, he's nineteen," or "not straight, he's asexual," or "not white, he's 1/32nd Cherokee" or something along those lines?

If I owned a house I'd bet the whole thing.

[Nailed to the Perch]

How much do you want to bet that it's "wrong" because he's "not young, he's nineteen," or "not straight, he's asexual," or "not white, he's 1/32nd Cherokee" or something along those lines?

Hey, I'm asexual/questioning. I'm also not a jerk.

Sorry. I have no patience to be nice right now.

Agreed - you're not a jerk. Which suggests that you probably shouldn't take criticisms of silly people arguing that race and gender don't affect one's life experiences personally, since you're not doing that.

(And I feel you - that other thread has me grumpy, too. Sigh.)

[Nadkor]

How much do you want to bet that it's "wrong" because he's "not young, he's nineteen," or "not straight, he's asexual," or "not white, he's 1/32nd Cherokee" or something along those lines?

Would it even matter if he were a white straight male? Is that some sort of crime now?

No, and you've missed the point.

[Aurora Novus]

Hey, I'm asexual/questioning. I'm also not a jerk.

Sorry. I have no patience to be nice right now.

Agreed - you're not a jerk. Which suggests that you probably shouldn't take criticisms of silly people arguing that race and gender don't affect one's life experiences personally, since you're not doing that.

Good thing that's not what I was claiming.

At least try to act like you're being intellectually honest.

[Aurora Novus]

Would it even matter if he were a white straight male? Is that some sort of crime now?

No, and you've missed the point.

Again, if it doesn't matter, there's no reason to bring it up. You were attempting a character attack, and it backfired.

No one's missing any point. They're pointing out your own error. One which you seem incapable of accepting.

[Nadkor]

1) Rather than address my arguments, you attempt to attack my character by insinuating I fit into some neat little class of people you don't like.

That's it. I hate straight white males. With a passion. I hate my dad. I hate my brother. I hate my uncles. I hate my cousins, I hate my friends who happen to be straight, white, and male.

You've caught me.

2) When I tell you you are wrong, rather than recognize your preconceived bias against me as flawed, you merely dismiss your own fault, and continue to hold onto your beliefs dogmatically by accusing me of lying.

You see, here's the thing: when you say that you aren't a straight white male I just don't believe you.

And your reactions have made me even more certain of it.

[Desperauex]

I'm fine with girls coming as long as wars don't turn into shooting rainbows at each other.

No, not the ones that crawl up your leg and bite the inside of your ass.

[The Blaatschapen]

1) Rather than address my arguments, you attempt to attack my character by insinuating I fit into some neat little class of people you don't like.

That's it. I hate straight white males. With a passion. I hate my dad. I hate my brother. I hate my uncles. I hate my cousins, I hate my friends who happen to be straight, white, and male.

You've caught me.

*goes crying in the corner*

Nadkor hates me *sniff*

[Nadkor]

Again, if it doesn't matter,

I didn't say it didn't matter, I said it wasn't a crime.

Do try to keep up.

You were attempting a character attack

...no. No, I wasn't.

Your defensiveness in the face of what you wrongly perceive to be a character attack only makes sense if I was at least close to the target.

Which is all I need to know.