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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:33 am

Katganistan wrote:So what's the solution? How are you going to attract more women?


If someone has the answer, let me know :lol:



Edit: Okay, I made this post before I saw what kind of clusterfuck the thread had become :?
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Postby Faolinn » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:34 am

I would need to do some sort of research to discern this. NS after all, is a far reaching but fairly diminutive social environment. A fairly distinct but small subdivision of global society. Almost a culture to itself really.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:36 am

Katganistan wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Catch-22, right?


You know what? No. I will not live with it. Why should I? If no one speaks out, nothing is going to change, ever.

So what's the solution? How are you going to attract more women?

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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:23 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Katganistan wrote:So what's the solution? How are you going to attract more women?

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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:27 am

It doesn't bother me either way.

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Postby Andryan » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:31 am

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:32 am

NS polls are biased against Hideyoshis and Hermaphrodites
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Postby Luveria » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:35 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:NS polls are biased against Hideyoshis and Hermaphrodites

Unfortunately.

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Postby Mkuki » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:36 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:NS polls are biased against Hideyoshis and Hermaphrodites

Hideyoshis?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:57 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Katganistan wrote:So what's the solution? How are you going to attract more women?


If someone has the answer, let me know :lol:



Edit: Okay, I made this post before I saw what kind of clusterfuck the thread had become :?

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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:02 am

Australian Republic wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
If someone has the answer, let me know :lol:



Edit: Okay, I made this post before I saw what kind of clusterfuck the thread had become :?

Ads in women's toilets **nods**


You sexist.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:09 am

Nadkor wrote:Well, I mean, I'd be interested in a debate about, say, abortion (or, fuck, anything really) that wasn't just a bunch of men standing around shouting at each other.

Search my posts for anything to do with abortion, and you'll find at least one self-confessed female's very pointed opinions on abortion. And there's a lot more here (and on those threads) than just me. In fact, you can pretty much tell that all the clueless opinons on those threads are by young males (who most likely have never given any thought to one day ending up with kids of their own).
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:10 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:Edit: Okay, I made this post before I saw what kind of clusterfuck the thread had become :?

Actually it's gotten a lot better towards the end. :P
Fine, I lie about it getting better towards the end. It gets better, then worse, then better, then worse, the eternal tide of threads on NSG.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:20 am

Araraukar wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Edit: Okay, I made this post before I saw what kind of clusterfuck the thread had become :?

Actually it's gotten a lot better towards the end. :P
Fine, I lie about it getting better towards the end. It gets better, then worse, then better, then worse, the eternal tide of threads on NSG.


But now that you're here, it is better :)
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:06 am

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Katganistan wrote:
Sorry. What I am hearing is "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like."
Not much room for debate if you're going to get rid of the opposing side, no matter how asinine the opinion is.


I reckon you probably view such comments in much the same way as Individuality-ness does and that's why I am often quite suspicious of certain claims that the likes of the (spelt incorrectly*) "dykes" comment that TSM brought up (without sources, that helps too) are condoned by the mods.

* That is to say, it's very much possible that "dyke" isn't actually being used offensively. For example, I've been reported for my use of fag and, well, NERVUN's ruling says it all. Well, basically it comes back to the idea that in my experience "dykes" are very common in the Netherlands.


When Sidhae was finally deleted? I'm on my phone, links are annoying to find, but it took Choronozon complaining about the ruling before anything was done about it.

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Postby Ovisterra » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:12 am

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Katganistan wrote:
Sorry. What I am hearing is "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like."
Not much room for debate if you're going to get rid of the opposing side, no matter how asinine the opinion is.

Some opinions aren't worth taking seriously.


Certainly true. Does that mean we should ban them? No.
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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:13 am

Forsher wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Sorry. What I am hearing is "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like."
Not much room for debate if you're going to get rid of the opposing side, no matter how asinine the opinion is.


I reckon you probably view such comments in much the same way as Individuality-ness does and that's why I am often quite suspicious of certain claims that the likes of the (spelt incorrectly*) "dykes" comment that TSM brought up (without sources, that helps too) are condoned by the mods.

* That is to say, it's very much possible that "dyke" isn't actually being used offensively. For example, I've been reported for my use of fag and, well, NERVUN's ruling says it all. Well, basically it comes back to the idea that in my experience "dykes" are very common in the Netherlands.


I remember when you posted that. I knew someone was going to end up mistaking it.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:18 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Olthar wrote:Some opinions aren't worth taking seriously.


Certainly true. Does that mean we should ban them? No.


Actually we should debate them and show exactly why those opinions should not be taken seriously.

There are many lurkers out there who otherwise might be convinced of the correctness of those opinions because they're not debunked as idiocy.
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:19 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Forsher wrote:
I reckon you probably view such comments in much the same way as Individuality-ness does and that's why I am often quite suspicious of certain claims that the likes of the (spelt incorrectly*) "dykes" comment that TSM brought up (without sources, that helps too) are condoned by the mods.

* That is to say, it's very much possible that "dyke" isn't actually being used offensively. For example, I've been reported for my use of fag and, well, NERVUN's ruling says it all. Well, basically it comes back to the idea that in my experience "dykes" are very common in the Netherlands.


When Sidhae was finally deleted? I'm on my phone, links are annoying to find, but it took Choronozon complaining about the ruling before anything was done about it.


Here: viewtopic.php?p=14674538#p14674538

Now, action was eventually taken, but only AFTER a senior game moderator stated that refering to feminists as "a bunch of sexually-frustrated uptight cunts and dykes who are too ugly to find a man to fuck them and hence resort to each other" was "Assuredly not flaming. Possibly flamebaiting or trolling, but not enough to trip my warning filters."

In a great many of the concerns mentioned, it's not that the poster wasn't EVENTUALLY dealt with. In many cases, like the infamous "trannies are filth" of yore, they are. Eventually.

But "eventually" usually involves a completely off the wall, and, frankly, utterly bizarre ruling that's only recinded after significant complaints.

The issue isn't that calling feminists "sexually-frustrated uptight cunts" was never dealt with. It's what it TOOK to get it dealt with, including having to argue with a SENIOR moderator over whether "sexually-frustrated uptight cunts" was a forum violation.
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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:21 am

Neo Art wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
When Sidhae was finally deleted? I'm on my phone, links are annoying to find, but it took Choronozon complaining about the ruling before anything was done about it.


Here: viewtopic.php?p=14674538#p14674538

Now, action was eventually taken, but only AFTER a senior game moderator stated that refering to feminists as "a bunch of sexually-frustrated uptight cunts and dykes who are too ugly to find a man to fuck them and hence resort to each other" was "Assuredly not flaming. Possibly flamebaiting or trolling, but not enough to trip my warning filters."

In a great many of the concerns mentioned, it's not that the poster wasn't EVENTUALLY dealt with. In many cases, like the infamous "trannies are filth" of yore, they are. Eventually.

But "eventually" usually involves a completely off the wall, and, frankly, utterly bizarre ruling that's only recinded after significant complaints.

The issue isn't that calling feminists "sexually-frustrated uptight cunts" was never dealt with. It's what it TOOK to get it dealt with, including having to argue with a SENIOR moderator over whether "sexually-frustrated uptight cunts" was a forum violation.


That's fucking ridiculous.
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:21 am

Katganistan wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I want a space that's more friendly to women in general, where we don't have people with the mentality of thirteen year olds saying that women don't deserve to be on the Internet, to get out, and to shut up when someone says something sexist.


Sorry. What I am hearing is "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like."
Not much room for debate if you're going to get rid of the opposing side, no matter how asinine the opinion is.


So, you ask for advice, someone answers, and you respond by passive aggressive insulting and belittling someone for answering the question YOU asked?

And you're an authority figure around here?

Disgusting.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:22 am

Nadkor wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Sorry. What I am hearing is "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like."
Not much room for debate if you're going to get rid of the opposing side, no matter how asinine the opinion is.


This is a pretty major misreading of what Indi actually said which was not "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like", but was "maybe being the kind of forum where a significant proportion of the posters are teenage boys and where posts such as 'women shouldn't be on the internet' or whatever are bandied around regularly is one of the reasons why we don't have a large proportion of female posters and maybe it would be nice to do something about that".

Quite so. There's a difference between having an opposite side and having a bunch of children who constantly repeat the same thing, just phrased in another manner, with virtually no supporting arguments, and ignore any attempt at debate by replying with a steadfast "you're wrong".

You just can't argue with some people if they just reply with strawmen. Elvish is easier to understand.

Mind you, age doesn't necessarily play a big role in this, stubbornness to participate in debate and remain receptive to other people's argument and perhaps even revise your own opinions is something of all ages. It's just more concentrated in teenagers for the same reason that some of them consider losing popularity in high school is the end of the world.

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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:23 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Here: viewtopic.php?p=14674538#p14674538

Now, action was eventually taken, but only AFTER a senior game moderator stated that refering to feminists as "a bunch of sexually-frustrated uptight cunts and dykes who are too ugly to find a man to fuck them and hence resort to each other" was "Assuredly not flaming. Possibly flamebaiting or trolling, but not enough to trip my warning filters."

In a great many of the concerns mentioned, it's not that the poster wasn't EVENTUALLY dealt with. In many cases, like the infamous "trannies are filth" of yore, they are. Eventually.

But "eventually" usually involves a completely off the wall, and, frankly, utterly bizarre ruling that's only recinded after significant complaints.

The issue isn't that calling feminists "sexually-frustrated uptight cunts" was never dealt with. It's what it TOOK to get it dealt with, including having to argue with a SENIOR moderator over whether "sexually-frustrated uptight cunts" was a forum violation.


That's fucking ridiculous.


isn't it just?

So, to bring this all right back around again, want to know why there are fewer and fewer active women posting on this forum? Because when they come here they get called "sexually-frustrated uptight cunts" and it takes pulling fucking teeth to get someone to actually DO something about it
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:24 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Olthar wrote:Some opinions aren't worth taking seriously.


Certainly true. Does that mean we should ban them? No.


When it's fairly fucking blatant trolling we most certainly should.

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Postby Ovisterra » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:24 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Certainly true. Does that mean we should ban them? No.


Actually we should debate them and show exactly why those opinions should not be taken seriously.

There are many lurkers out there who otherwise might be convinced of the correctness of those opinions because they're not debunked as idiocy.


Exactly. Drag 'em out into the light and expose them for what they are.
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