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Postby Neo Art » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:44 pm

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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:50 pm

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Have you got sources for this, or any posts at all which show moderation explicitly allowing the avocation of illegal activity? I don't know why people are blaming moderation for things that don't seem to be happening.

As a matter of fact I believe the rules explicitly state we don't allow the advocation of illegal activity.

We do need to have it reported, though.


I'm starting to wonder if it might not be time to add a couple more mods. (I'm somewhat hesitant to suggest that, because I think the current crop of mods is, overall, one of the better groups I've seen in my time on this site, and I really don't want to see a new mod get added if they're going to drag things down.) I am (hesitantly) suggesting it, though, because I think part of the problem is that, while I think the mods have mostly done pretty well recently at making good calls once they get around to making calls, there's been a few cases of late where it seems like a pretty long time has passed between an offense occurring and a mod getting online to look at it. While that's no one's fault, seeing a day or two go by between blatant trolling and a mod responding to that trolling does make it easy for people to perceive it as "apparently the mods don't care that so-and-so said this horrible thing," and not notice the warning or ban handed out later.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:54 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Katganistan wrote:As a matter of fact I believe the rules explicitly state we don't allow the advocation of illegal activity.

We do need to have it reported, though.


I'm starting to wonder if it might not be time to add a couple more mods. (I'm somewhat hesitant to suggest that, because I think the current crop of mods is, overall, one of the better groups I've seen in my time on this site, and I really don't want to see a new mod get added if they're going to drag things down.) I am (hesitantly) suggesting it, though, because I think part of the problem is that, while I think the mods have mostly done pretty well recently at making good calls once they get around to making calls, there's been a few cases of late where it seems like a pretty long time has passed between an offense occurring and a mod getting online to look at it. While that's no one's fault, seeing a day or two go by between blatant trolling and a mod responding to that trolling does make it easy for people to perceive it as "apparently the mods don't care that so-and-so said this horrible thing," and not notice the warning or ban handed out later.

I've seen reports in Moderation get completely ignored and never responded to... >_>
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Postby Mushet » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:54 pm

We have more women than plenty of other forums, 4 teh interwebz this is pretty damn good, women make a notable presence here, more women would be nice though, I'd prefer more ethnic diversity more, the race threads will attest to how white this forum in, multiple options for where you're from in Europe and they dominate
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:55 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nailed to the Perch wrote:I'm starting to wonder if it might not be time to add a couple more mods. (I'm somewhat hesitant to suggest that, because I think the current crop of mods is, overall, one of the better groups I've seen in my time on this site, and I really don't want to see a new mod get added if they're going to drag things down.) I am (hesitantly) suggesting it, though, because I think part of the problem is that, while I think the mods have mostly done pretty well recently at making good calls once they get around to making calls, there's been a few cases of late where it seems like a pretty long time has passed between an offense occurring and a mod getting online to look at it. While that's no one's fault, seeing a day or two go by between blatant trolling and a mod responding to that trolling does make it easy for people to perceive it as "apparently the mods don't care that so-and-so said this horrible thing," and not notice the warning or ban handed out later.

I've seen reports in Moderation get completely ignored and never responded to... >_>

Me too. >_>
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:56 pm

Mushet wrote:We have more women than plenty of other forums, 4 teh interwebz this is pretty damn good, women make a notable presence here, more women would be nice though, I'd prefer more ethnic diversity more, the race threads will attest to how white this forum in, multiple options for where you're from in Europe and they dominate

It's an English-speaking forum, and most English speakers are white, at least, most English-speakers who have enough free time to hang around an internet forum.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:57 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Katganistan wrote:As a matter of fact I believe the rules explicitly state we don't allow the advocation of illegal activity.

We do need to have it reported, though.

In fairness what crimes you actually take issue with is sporatic. Someone was reported for advocating tax evasions. The response was "we aren't the IRS"


In general is that against the law?
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:59 pm

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Neo Art wrote:In fairness what crimes you actually take issue with is sporatic. Someone was reported for advocating tax evasions. The response was "we aren't the IRS"


In general is that against the law?

I'm pretty sure tax evasion is a serious offense in every nation that has taxes.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:00 pm

Olthar wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
In general is that against the law?

I'm pretty sure tax evasion is a serious offense in every nation that has taxes.


The act? Sure. Talking about it?
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Postby Neo Art » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:01 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Neo Art wrote:In fairness what crimes you actually take issue with is sporatic. Someone was reported for advocating tax evasions. The response was "we aren't the IRS"


In general is that against the law?

Tax evasion?

....yes.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:01 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Olthar wrote:I'm pretty sure tax evasion is a serious offense in every nation that has taxes.

The act? Sure. Talking about it?

I'm trying to remember whether the poster in question was advocating it or not.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:01 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Olthar wrote:I'm pretty sure tax evasion is a serious offense in every nation that has taxes.


The act? Sure. Talking about it?

Are you asking if advocating illegal activity is illegal? :eyebrow:
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:02 pm

Neo Art wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
In general is that against the law?

Tax evasion?

....yes.


Sorry. I meant advocating it....
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Postby Neo Art » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Olthar wrote:I'm pretty sure tax evasion is a serious offense in every nation that has taxes.


The act? Sure. Talking about it?

You seem to be confused as to what the rule is
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Postby 2nd Baron of Moyne » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:04 pm

Neo Art wrote:Tax evasion?

....yes.


Envisions Batman pursuing tax evasion exclusively.

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Postby Esternial » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:04 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Neo Art wrote:Tax evasion?

....yes.


Sorry. I meant advocating it....

Advocating something illegal.

Hmm. I wonder...

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:07 pm

Neo Art wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The act? Sure. Talking about it?

You seem to be confused as to what the rule is


Did he give out ideas to avoid paying taxes or simply stated you should avoid paying taxes?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:08 pm

Esternial wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Sorry. I meant advocating it....

Advocating something illegal.

Hmm. I wonder...


Taxes are theft! Don't pay them!

Should I be warned?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:08 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Neo Art wrote:You seem to be confused as to what the rule is

Did he give out ideas to avoid paying taxes are simply stated you should avoid paying taxes?

IIRC the poster listed how he was avoiding paying taxes, but I don't remember, and I could be misremembering.
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Postby Forsher » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:09 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Katganistan wrote:As a matter of fact I believe the rules explicitly state we don't allow the advocation of illegal activity.

We do need to have it reported, though.


I'm starting to wonder if it might not be time to add a couple more mods. (I'm somewhat hesitant to suggest that, because I think the current crop of mods is, overall, one of the better groups I've seen in my time on this site, and I really don't want to see a new mod get added if they're going to drag things down.) I am (hesitantly) suggesting it, though, because I think part of the problem is that, while I think the mods have mostly done pretty well recently at making good calls once they get around to making calls, there's been a few cases of late where it seems like a pretty long time has passed between an offense occurring and a mod getting online to look at it. While that's no one's fault, seeing a day or two go by between blatant trolling and a mod responding to that trolling does make it easy for people to perceive it as "apparently the mods don't care that so-and-so said this horrible thing," and not notice the warning or ban handed out later.


Timezone coverage is pretty good but there are times when it's around 8-10pm my time where NSG is slower but, sometimes, there are quite significant breaches in the rules.
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:09 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Katganistan wrote:So what's the solution? How are you going to attract more women?

I want a space that's more friendly to women in general, where we don't have people with the mentality of thirteen year olds saying that women don't deserve to be on the Internet, to get out, and to shut up when someone says something sexist.


Sorry. What I am hearing is "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like."
Not much room for debate if you're going to get rid of the opposing side, no matter how asinine the opinion is.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:10 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Did he give out ideas to avoid paying taxes are simply stated you should avoid paying taxes?

IIRC the poster listed how he was avoiding paying taxes, but I don't remember, and I could be misremembering.


Oh ok. if that was case, then the rule was violated:

Promoting illegal activity: Don't start threads describing the best way to get away with murder, rape, child abuse, software piracy, bombing the UN, killing the President, or anything of that nature. We don't find it amusing, and it puts the forums at risk. Such threads will be deleted. Egregious posters of such may be banned, deleted, or even have their ISP contacted. We shouldn't have to spell this out, but apparently we do.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Anvilonia » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:10 pm

It hardly matters, this isn't a dating site after all. If it doesn't appeal to a broad audience then not much can be done about that.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:11 pm

Anvilonia wrote:It hardly matters, this isn't a dating site after all. If it doesn't appeal to a broad audience then not much can be done about that.


*tosses the list of female generalites into the trash*
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Olthar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:12 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I want a space that's more friendly to women in general, where we don't have people with the mentality of thirteen year olds saying that women don't deserve to be on the Internet, to get out, and to shut up when someone says something sexist.


Sorry. What I am hearing is "I don't want to hear opinions I don't like."
Not much room for debate if you're going to get rid of the opposing side, no matter how asinine the opinion is.

Some opinions aren't worth taking seriously.
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