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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:21 am

What do you think of when you hear the name "Hitler"? Genocide, death, destruction, evil? Hitler is often seen as a personification of evil itself: Hitler is considered to be so evil that names like Adolf and Adolph, previously very common are now next to non-existant because they are associated with Hitler. Hitler is used as an insult, Hitler symbolises evil, Hitler is an caricature of evil.

But do you think that this is ever going to stop? Is Hitler ever going to become a neutral figure? There have been dozens of people in history who have been as evil as Hitler, but nobody really cares about them anymore. Why? Because people who were alive at the time are now dead.

That's why I believe that Hitler will be regarded as a neutral figure in the future, but not until all people who lived through WWII and the Cold War are dead. We can see people like Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler objectively because the things that they did took place such a long time ago. I think this is the case with Hitler as well.

So, opinions?
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Postby Salentopia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:24 am

Hippostania wrote:What do you think of when you hear the name "Hitler"? Genocide, death, destruction, evil? Hitler is often seen as a personification of evil itself: Hitler is considered to be so evil that names like Adolf and Adolph, previously very common are now next to non-existant because they are associated with Hitler. Hitler is used as an insult, Hitler symbolises evil, Hitler is an caricature of evil.

But do you think that this is ever going to stop? Is Hitler ever going to become a neutral figure? There have been dozens of people in history who have been as evil as Hitler, but nobody really cares about them anymore. Why? Because people who were alive at the time are now dead.

That's why I believe that Hitler will be regarded as a neutral figure in the future, but not until all people who lived through WWII and the Cold War are dead. We can see people like Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler objectively because the things that they did took place such a long time ago. I think this is the case with Hitler as well.

So, opinions?


Hopefully he will always be seen as a representation of pure evil like he really was.

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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:26 am

Hitler, not such a bad guy. Hippostania, more American than baseball-playing, Mountain Dew-swilling apple pie mixed with George Washington and Michael Jordan gambling on the stock market. Facts.
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:31 am

Salentopia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:What do you think of when you hear the name "Hitler"? Genocide, death, destruction, evil? Hitler is often seen as a personification of evil itself: Hitler is considered to be so evil that names like Adolf and Adolph, previously very common are now next to non-existant because they are associated with Hitler. Hitler is used as an insult, Hitler symbolises evil, Hitler is an caricature of evil.

But do you think that this is ever going to stop? Is Hitler ever going to become a neutral figure? There have been dozens of people in history who have been as evil as Hitler, but nobody really cares about them anymore. Why? Because people who were alive at the time are now dead.

That's why I believe that Hitler will be regarded as a neutral figure in the future, but not until all people who lived through WWII and the Cold War are dead. We can see people like Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler objectively because the things that they did took place such a long time ago. I think this is the case with Hitler as well.

So, opinions?


Hopefully he will always be seen as a representation of pure evil like he really was.

If you see someone as being "pure evil" there is no way to see or research them as objectively, which is a bad thing.
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Postby Vultasia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:32 am

Salentopia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:What do you think of when you hear the name "Hitler"? Genocide, death, destruction, evil? Hitler is often seen as a personification of evil itself: Hitler is considered to be so evil that names like Adolf and Adolph, previously very common are now next to non-existant because they are associated with Hitler. Hitler is used as an insult, Hitler symbolises evil, Hitler is an caricature of evil.

But do you think that this is ever going to stop? Is Hitler ever going to become a neutral figure? There have been dozens of people in history who have been as evil as Hitler, but nobody really cares about them anymore. Why? Because people who were alive at the time are now dead.

That's why I believe that Hitler will be regarded as a neutral figure in the future, but not until all people who lived through WWII and the Cold War are dead. We can see people like Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler objectively because the things that they did took place such a long time ago. I think this is the case with Hitler as well.

So, opinions?


Hopefully he will always be seen as a representation of pure evil like he really was.


Much like the Muslims looked at Vlad the Impaler or how the Chinese, Koreans, Arabs, and Europeans view Kublai Khan as the epitome of evil and hope they will always be seen as such like they really are.

Now we don't care about those two, except for a good grade in history class. Hitler will have the same fate.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:32 am

I don't know. Maybe in 300 or so years he will be viewed like Genghis Khan and Vlad the Impaler. Insane, but bad ass.

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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:32 am

Hippostania wrote:What do you think of when you hear the name "Hitler"? Genocide, death, destruction, evil? Hitler is often seen as a personification of evil itself: Hitler is considered to be so evil that names like Adolf and Adolph, previously very common are now next to non-existant because they are associated with Hitler. Hitler is used as an insult, Hitler symbolises evil, Hitler is an caricature of evil.

But do you think that this is ever going to stop? Is Hitler ever going to become a neutral figure? There have been dozens of people in history who have been as evil as Hitler, but nobody really cares about them anymore. Why? Because people who were alive at the time are now dead.

That's why I believe that Hitler will be regarded as a neutral figure in the future, but not until all people who lived through WWII and the Cold War are dead. We can see people like Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler objectively because the things that they did took place such a long time ago. I think this is the case with Hitler as well.

So, opinions?



Hitler is one of the lesser evils in the world due to my own reasons which i shall not explain cause it will cause a shitstorm with people claiming i am a stormfag and copypasta wikipedia articles thinking they are valid first hand accounts...

but i see him in a positive light in some area's.

the claims of him wanting the world are bullshit, they just used that to bump up recruiting rates for the american and british armies.
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Postby Agritum » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:35 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:I don't know. Maybe in 300 or so years he will be viewed like Genghis Khan and Vlad the Impaler. Insane, but bad ass.

Him? Nah. His greatest achievement was getting elected.

However, Rommel and all his other generals will justifiably be seen as badasses for years to come.

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Postby Austiana » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:35 am

Hippostania wrote:What do you think of when you hear the name "Hitler"? Genocide, death, destruction, evil? Hitler is often seen as a personification of evil itself: Hitler is considered to be so evil that names like Adolf and Adolph, previously very common are now next to non-existant because they are associated with Hitler. Hitler is used as an insult, Hitler symbolises evil, Hitler is an caricature of evil.

But do you think that this is ever going to stop? Is Hitler ever going to become a neutral figure? There have been dozens of people in history who have been as evil as Hitler, but nobody really cares about them anymore. Why? Because people who were alive at the time are now dead.

That's why I believe that Hitler will be regarded as a neutral figure in the future, but not until all people who lived through WWII and the Cold War are dead. We can see people like Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler objectively because the things that they did took place such a long time ago. I think this is the case with Hitler as well.

So, opinions?

Hitler was an insult to evil. He shall remain the stereotypical 'evil' for a very long time, because he was a part of modern history. However, like you said, he may be seen as a neutral figure in the distant future as the relevance of World War II becomes less and less. However, I hope history looks back at what he did and remembers. And hopefully there shall never be such an evil person to gain power and commit such atrocities.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:36 am

Agritum wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:I don't know. Maybe in 300 or so years he will be viewed like Genghis Khan and Vlad the Impaler. Insane, but bad ass.

Him? Nah. His greatest achievement was getting elected.

However, Rommel and all his other generals will justifiably be seen as badasses for years to come.


Rommel was a traitor.

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Postby Elmorica » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:37 am

Hippostania wrote:
Salentopia wrote:
Hopefully he will always be seen as a representation of pure evil like he really was.

If you see someone as being "pure evil" there is no way to see or research them as objectively, which is a bad thing.

I have researched him extensively, and still think he's pure evil.
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Postby Agritum » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:37 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Agritum wrote:Him? Nah. His greatest achievement was getting elected.

However, Rommel and all his other generals will justifiably be seen as badasses for years to come.


Rommel was a traitor.

Does this deny his badassness?

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:38 am

Agritum wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Rommel was a traitor.

Does this deny his badassness?


No, but it makes him a douche.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:38 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Agritum wrote:Him? Nah. His greatest achievement was getting elected.

However, Rommel and all his other generals will justifiably be seen as badasses for years to come.


Rommel was a traitor.

Rommel was a decent commander who was wildly, WILDLY overrated by the Nazis needing a hero and the British needing to justify why they couldn't beat the Germans in Africa.
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Postby Vultasia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:38 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:I don't know. Maybe in 300 or so years he will be viewed like Genghis Khan and Vlad the Impaler. Insane, but bad ass.


5 years ago you can't even make a Hitler joke without people hitting you hard with verbal sledgehammers.

Now, Hitler Jokes are taken more lightly than it was 5 years ago. Only American directors care about him now (Like seriously, what the hell was that German scene in the Avengers supposed to mean?)
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:39 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Agritum wrote:Does this deny his badassness?


No, but it makes him a douche.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:39 am

He will be a murdering bastard and he will forever be remembered as a murdering bastard just like Michael Jackson will be forever be remembered as someone who went crazy on drugs and had fake facial appendages.

The real tragedy is that Ferdinand Porsche will be remembered as the man who created the Beetle at the behest of Hitler, not as a thiefing bastard who robbed a Czech guy called Hans Ledwinka of some automotive plans back in the 30's, resulting in Porsche's establishment and Ledwinka gaining revenge by causing all turbocharged Porsche's to crash and kill their owners.
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Postby Deadora » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:39 am

Considering he committed one of, if not the singular, worst atrocities in human history, I don't think there is any chance of him being relegated to the tier of historical figures of Vlad the Impaler. This also has to do with modern methods of historical record keeping: Vlad is surrounded in myth and legend, Hitler is a product of the modern era, with documented evidence of the horrors he committed. Not to mention that the petty warlords of ancient history were never able to slaughter on the scale of Nazi Germany. Attila the Hun may have killed thousands over the many years of his conquest, but Hitler turned to the Western industrial-complex to commit the wholesale slaughter of an entire people in less than a decade.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:39 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Agritum wrote:Does this deny his badassness?


No, but it makes him a douche.

Because going against the most murderous and morally-irredeemable regime in the world makes you a douche.
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Postby The Tectonic Plates » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:40 am

Time heals all wounds, so while I don't think it's necessarily a good thing, give it enough time and the perception of Hitler will end up in a way where he can be perceived objectively.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:40 am

Frisivisia wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
No, but it makes him a douche.

Ah, summertime fascists.


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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:41 am

The Tectonic Plates wrote:Time heals all wounds, so while I don't think it's necessarily a good thing, give it enough time and the perception of Hitler will end up in a way where he can be perceived objectively.

Objectively perceived: He was an asshole who was really bad at war despite having huge advantages.
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Postby Camelza » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:41 am

Agritum wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Rommel was a traitor.

Does this deny his badassness?

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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:42 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Ah, summertime fascists.


I've been playing nationstates for years.

May 19, 2013

Hmm...
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:42 am

He will never be neutral, but his reputation as a right bastard will gradually be superceded by even bigger bastards like Stalin and Mao as people learn more about them and more casualty figures are released from 20th Century genocides in places like Russia, China and Cambodia.

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