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Postby Libertarian California » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:50 pm

Theonureos wrote:
Divair wrote:How is that a problem?


When you are part of a minority, with regards to race, sex, ethnicity, religion, or even ideology, you will experience varying degrees of oppression, depending on who the majority happens to be. This is how human society works.


Exactly. Something tells me whites won't be eligible for affirmative action/Equal opportunity programs once we're the minority.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Confederate Germany wrote:
Divair wrote:Clearly yours isn't a great one.

Sorry, my jokes don't work well with Liberalists.

*Liberal. If you're going to try and insult someone, at least learn to spell correctly.

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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

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Too far.... :roll:

Must make my point to dem White Nationalists, Fruity
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You're a Bostonian but you aren't white? :blink:
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Postby Arrakis Dune » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Edlichbury wrote:Again, you cited one example of nativist policy. By your logic, America was always a nativist nation because of the Chinese Exclusion Act.


America was nativist. It didnt want immigrants of any kind, especially Irish and Italians.

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Postby Theonureos » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Divair wrote:
Theonureos wrote:
When you are part of a minority, with regards to race, sex, ethnicity, religion, or even ideology, you will experience varying degrees of oppression, depending on who the majority happens to be. This is how human society works.

Unless you have protections in place like in many modernized countries.

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True, but laws only work if people choose to follow them; if the oppression is state-sponsored, then you're really screwed (this has happened in some cases). Just look at Nazi Germany.

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Postby Confederate Germany » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

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Confederate Germany wrote:Sorry, my jokes don't work well with Liberalists.

*Liberal. If you're going to try and insult someone, at least learn to spell correctly.

I used Liberalist to specify you politically rather than just saying you're open minded.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

Theonureos wrote:
Divair wrote:Unless you have protections in place like in many modernized countries.

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True, but laws only work if people choose to follow them; if the oppression is state-sponsored, then you're really screwed (this has happened in some cases). Just look at Nazi Germany.

That's why you have systems in place to prevent something like that occurring.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

Arrakis Dune wrote:How was I wrong? Multiple immigration acts and nativist policies as far back as the 16th century prove YOU wrong.


No, they don't.

London has had occasional xenophobic cycles. They have neither been the consistent state of play, nor unique to London.

Indeed, if you review European history, London's cycles of xenophobia tend to coincide with European tension - xenophobia in London is the occasional REACTION to Europe.

Occasional 'nativism' that is NOT limited to London, is not evidence that London has always been 'nativist'.

Arrakis Dune wrote:Immigration hasnt been peaceful.


Recently? Immigration certainly has been peaceful compared to the biggest tides of previous immigration, which tende to be at the point of the sword.

Arrakis Dune wrote:It was forced upon the population who consistently voted NO. They even had to setup anti discrimination acts due to the animosity towards immigrants. How can you claim that is peaceful?


Ah, I see the confusion - you think that because some of the people already THERE got violent, that's the same as the IMMIGRATION not being peaceful.

Arrakis Dune wrote:Everything has changed. Dont compare the two. Modern Immigration has been a bane to working class whites. This is an undisputed fact...


Nope, that's fascist bullshit.

Immigrants have brought more work to the UK - THAT is the undisputed fact.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

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Divair wrote:*Liberal. If you're going to try and insult someone, at least learn to spell correctly.

I used Liberalist to specify you politically rather than just saying you're open minded.

And a liberalist is a term you made up that means what?

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Postby Libertarian California » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

Divair wrote:
Theonureos wrote:
When you are part of a minority, with regards to race, sex, ethnicity, religion, or even ideology, you will experience varying degrees of oppression, depending on who the majority happens to be. This is how human society works.

Unless you have protections in place like in many modernized countries.

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Protections for minorities in the US specifically mention black and Latino minorities though...it makes no mention in the event that whites are minorities.
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Postby Edlichbury » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 pm

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Edlichbury wrote:The Norman invasion that you're so hung up about wasn't an invasion by a hostile foreign ethnicity.


Im not hung up on anything. The norman invasion was brought up to justify modern immigration. Its a stupid tangent one of these morons has brought up.

It was not actually. You brought it up first.

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Death Metal wrote:Murdering and raping the natives doesn't make you the new natives, no matter how much time has passed.

It's not a championship belt.


My ancestors settled here. Celts, Germanics, Nordics, Romans. They merged through a millenia of strife and war. Then came the Normans.

I am Native.

The clear implication is that since Celts, Germans, Nordics, and Romans are separate from Normans, you believe Normans are a foreign entity. To which we responded, the Norman invader was ethnically English but culturally French and through granted titles Norman.

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 pm

Arrakis Dune wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:Again, you cited one example of nativist policy. By your logic, America was always a nativist nation because of the Chinese Exclusion Act.


America was nativist. It didnt want immigrants of any kind, especially Irish and Italians.


Are you seriously appealing to the parts of history Americans don't like to remember in order to make us agree with you?

You're fucking terribe at debating.

Theonureos wrote:
Divair wrote:Unless you have protections in place like in many modernized countries.

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True, but laws only work if people choose to follow them; if the oppression is state-sponsored, then you're really screwed (this has happened in some cases). Just look at Nazi Germany.


Unless the country is full of ebul libral yuppies, and then the white man's screwed, right, Arrakis?

I mean, Theonureos.

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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Divair wrote:Unless you have protections in place like in many modernized countries.

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Protections for minorities in the US specifically mention black and Latino minorities though...it makes no mention in the event that whites are minorities.

That's why you edit them to cover all minorities.

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Postby Libertarian California » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:55 pm

Divair wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Protections for minorities in the US specifically mention black and Latino minorities though...it makes no mention in the event that whites are minorities.

That's why you edit them to cover all minorities.

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Doubt that would happen.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:55 pm

Arrakis Dune wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:The only person talking about this paranoid 'ethnic replacement' delusion is you.


620,000 White Britons fleeing London in under 10 years is unprecedented. Whites birth rates are low, non white birth rates are high. Mohammed, in all its variations is the most popular baby name in the Uk for 5 years. We are becoming a minority due to birth rates and it shows no sign of changing.

This is detrimental to the british native population.


See, the only person talking about the paranoid 'ethnic replacement' delusion is you.

No one else cares about the bullshit numbers. Because they don't matter. They don't whip me up into hysteria.
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Postby Edlichbury » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:55 pm

Arrakis Dune wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:Again, you cited one example of nativist policy. By your logic, America was always a nativist nation because of the Chinese Exclusion Act.


America was nativist. It didnt want immigrants of any kind, especially Irish and Italians.

What the hell? I understand they didn't like it all the time, but America is renowned for it's immigration. It's literally called a land of immigrants. And now it is nativist?

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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:56 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Divair wrote:That's why you edit them to cover all minorities.

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Doubt that would happen.

Shouldn't be so pessimistic.

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Mushet wrote:Not necessarily, how will the Lenape nation benefit from evicting all the non-Indians from NYC, seems to me it'll work better for all parties involved if they let them stay there.

I doubt any sensible activists advocate getting all the land back and evicting all non-native people from the area, sovereignty is good, real sovereignty, recognition of treaty rights, cessation of destroying the natural resources of the community and insistence on keeping toxic facilities disproportionately close to native american communities is good. IIRC they have a reservation in Downtown Las Vegas, they can't do that in more cities?


If non-Natives are the majority and don't adhere to Native culture, then the land isn't really Native now is it?

Many indigenous nations in the land now occupied by the United States have treaties that should be legally binding, but usually are not treated as such by the colonial government, I believe most indigenous nations have a legal claim over their land whether formal of informal, also there are Human Rights issues at play as well as the UN Declaration of the Rights Of Indigenous Peoples, and genocide.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:56 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Divair wrote:That's why you edit them to cover all minorities.

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Doubt that would happen.


... Why wouldn't it?

Do you have a problem understanding what a "minority" is?
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Postby Confederate Germany » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:57 pm

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Confederate Germany wrote:I used Liberalist to specify you politically rather than just saying you're open minded.

And a liberalist is a term you made up that means what?

It comes from the term 'Liberalism'. Normally I would call you liberal, but I read an article a few months back saying we should separate the term 'liberal'. The article had some good points, if I could find it again I would link it to you. So yes, the term is made up.
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Postby Theonureos » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:57 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Divair wrote:Unless you have protections in place like in many modernized countries.

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Protections for minorities in the US specifically mention black and Latino minorities though...it makes no mention in the event that whites are minorities.


As a Latino, I can tell you this is true. I hope racial tensions in general are resolved, and soon, otherwise we could be looking at a Second Holocaust. I seriously fear for the US.

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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:58 pm

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Divair wrote:And a liberalist is a term you made up that means what?

It comes from the term 'Liberalism'. Normally I would call you liberal, but I read an article a few months back saying we should separate the term 'liberal'. The article had some good points, if I could find it again I would link it to you. So yes, the term is made up.

You didn't answer my question. What does liberalist mean?

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Postby Arrakis Dune » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:58 pm

Death Metal wrote:We've already established he's a racist, though.


Racism is an idela fo superiority. I do not claim superiority, I claim ethnic interest and self determination. AN Anglo Celtic nation of Anglo Celts striving for the betterment of the workeer is benefical to me and my community.

I did not bomb sovereign nations, I would not. I would invite foreigners of all kinds if they seek an education, if they are willing to pay. Nor do I have an issue with Tourism or trade. Mixed ethnic groups especially from South Asia and Africa do not get along, especially not with Europeans in European cities, especially not in England.

I dont want a minority for multiple reasons. Obviously, becuase I am self determined but also becuase it is too much hassle to have a minority. The majority will likely push them around, they shouldnt live that way. They should have their own nations, their own pride. What they do is not my business.

Yet, this makes me an evil bigoted, racist, xenophibic, homophobic, nazi, anti semite.

OMG, WHITE MAN CARING ABOUT HIS FUTURE! STOP HEEEM!!!!

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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:58 pm

Theonureos wrote: otherwise we could be looking at a Second Holocaust

oh my god lol

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Postby Libertarian California » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:59 pm

Divair wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Doubt that would happen.

Shouldn't be so pessimistic.


Minorities in the US kinda of have reason to not like Euros...
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