Whites now the minority in US under-5 population

[Choronzon]

Immigration from back then is different to immigration now. Wordls apart.

Lots more rape and murder back then, yes.

That and back then, in the good old days, at least the immigrants coming in were mostly European.

Lets not pretend that isn't what hes saying.

[Fruition (Ancient)]

We should make more Caucasians. BAM! Our problems are solved.

Make? Are you a scientist?

[Libertarian California]

Well in order to give the land back to the Natives, you'd need to evict the non-Native population, and that's like 8 million people. So yeah, destroying the city.

Not necessarily, how will the Lenape nation benefit from evicting all the non-Indians from NYC, seems to me it'll work better for all parties involved if they let them stay there.

I doubt any sensible activists advocate getting all the land back and evicting all non-native people from the area, sovereignty is good, real sovereignty, recognition of treaty rights, cessation of destroying the natural resources of the community and insistence on keeping toxic facilities disproportionately close to native american communities is good. IIRC they have a reservation in Downtown Las Vegas, they can't do that in more cities?

If non-Natives are the majority and don't adhere to Native culture, then the land isn't really Native now is it?

[Condunum]

A millenia ago, the same thing you're saying could be said about the Romans, or the Normans.

Nothing you are saying is based in reality.

It could be and they would be right. I dont doubt my ancestors didnt want to be invaded by Frankish Viking settlers but they were and they fought and were overcome. Does that mena we should accept an even more foreign and brutal culture and ethnic group to destroy us? The Normans did not replace us, they were small in number but a grand military. They had similar ethnic backgrounds as the people there.

Immigration from back then is different to immigration now. Wordls apart.

How is it different? That they aren't coming with an army, yes. Whatever differences you can think up are either very minor or entirely xenophobic.

Ignorant trolls gonna troll.

[Arrakis Dune]

This is where ethnic nationalism falls apart. He should instead be supporting a pan-Britannic civic nationalism in the sense that "It does not matter your ethnicity, we're all limeys, and we're all in it together".

That might have been possible in the 60s, maybe the 70s when immigration was still limited. Post 90s, it became impossible.

This is London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUODVXIIKwQ

Do you really think these people get along? Its too late.

[Edlichbury]

HISTORY LESSON TIME!

Can anyone tell me what William the Conqueror's claim to the throne of England was? That's right, he was related to the old king! Which means the Norman invasion was actually the invasion by one of the four well-known rulers that had a legitimate "native" claim, of which another ruler acted on as well!

Which means the best argument against him would be "invasion by foreign force on behalf of native ruler."

So you admit that modern immigration is an invasion that is detrimental to the people of the UK? Glad we're getting somewhere.

Did the Normans replace the ethnic group of ENgland? No. Funny how we cna dicuss History a thousand years ago which is being used to justify your modern progressive ethnic replacement.

How the hell do you get that from the post? Invasion by someone with a legitimate claim to British throne =/= immigration. In fact, any invasion is different than an invasion. Unless we now grant an "Invading our country" visa.

[Death Metal]

So you admit that modern immigration is an invasion that is detrimental to the people of the UK?

Except, you know, his point was the exact opposite.

[Condunum]

This is where ethnic nationalism falls apart. He should instead be supporting a pan-Britannic civic nationalism in the sense that "It does not matter your ethnicity, we're all limeys, and we're all in it together".

That might have been possible in the 60s, maybe the 70s when immigration was still limited. Post 90s, it became impossible.

This is London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUODVXIIKwQ

Do you really think these people get along? Its too late.

Literally everything you've said has been fearmongering with nothing to back it up.

And you think we should take you seriously.

[Napkiraly]

This is where ethnic nationalism falls apart. He should instead be supporting a pan-Britannic civic nationalism in the sense that "It does not matter your ethnicity, we're all limeys, and we're all in it together".

That might have been possible in the 60s, maybe the 70s when immigration was still limited. Post 90s, it became impossible.

This is London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUODVXIIKwQ

Do you really think these people get along? Its too late.

Hold on. I'm getting dinner right now. I'll tell you if there are any interethnic related violent incidences in my diverse area on my way to Sam's Chicken.

[Southern Babylonia]

And not a single fuck was given.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/whites-becoming-the-minority-among-us-population-under-five.php?ref=fpb

The US continues to be a shining beacon of light for multiculturalism. Export more of this, and less "democracy" plz.

I'm hoping that wasn't sarcasm.

And I don't see the correlation between this and less democracy.

[Edlichbury]

This is where ethnic nationalism falls apart. He should instead be supporting a pan-Britannic civic nationalism in the sense that "It does not matter your ethnicity, we're all limeys, and we're all in it together".

That might have been possible in the 60s, maybe the 70s when immigration was still limited. Post 90s, it became impossible.

This is London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUODVXIIKwQ

Do you really think these people get along? Its too late.

So London is a nativist city with unlimited immigration policies? Those sound completely at odds.

[Confederate Germany]

We should make more Caucasians. BAM! Our problems are solved.

What problems?

The problem that we're the minority.

[Libertarian California]

This is where ethnic nationalism falls apart. He should instead be supporting a pan-Britannic civic nationalism in the sense that "It does not matter your ethnicity, we're all limeys, and we're all in it together".

That might have been possible in the 60s, maybe the 70s when immigration was still limited. Post 90s, it became impossible.

This is London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUODVXIIKwQ

Do you really think these people get along? Its too late.

If you educate them and provide encouragement for them to act like Brits, then no, it's not too late.

[Grave_n_idle]

The population and ethnic groups of the UK have been similar since the Normans invaded. And as I said, London was Nativist, it did not tolerate any foreigners of any kind.

You said that, but you were wrong.

It maintained much of its culture and heritage right up until the 1950s. Any changes were organic.

On the contrary, the real change in London began with industrialisation - as the population of the UK shifted from mainly-rural to mainly-urban.

Your argument is a fallacy, I have already porven you wrong twice on your supposed knowledge of History.

You've done no such thing.

NATION OF IMMIGRANTS!!! Is a progressive argument with no historicla backing.

On the contrary, we are a nation of immigrants, and always have been.

And as I said, multiple times, the immigration of a few centuries back is RADICALYL different from the policies of todayy.

Yes. The immigration of the last hundred years has been peaceful, whereas a lot of previous immigration into the UK was through conquest.

But the real change in immigration over the last hundred years, or so - has been because of mass transport. Rather than one or two family groups making a trek across the Europe landmass, larger groups can travel further, more easily, and more cheaply. By rail, by sea, by air.

The immigration is the same. The mechanisms have changed.

[Divair]

What problems?

The problem that we're the minority.

How is that a problem?

[Death Metal]

This is London

London? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Arrakis Dune]

Immigration from back then is different to immigration now. Wordls apart.

How is it different? That they aren't coming with an army, yes. Whatever differences you can think up are either very minor or entirely xenophobic.

Ignorant trolls gonna troll.[/quote]

And why should we accept it? You are claiming the Norman invasion of Mercia is justification for the ethnic replacement of modern Brits. Its an insane comparison.

We didnt have a welfare state, we barely had a large government. Trade, culture, language was radically different. Today is different from a thousand years ago.

Hilarious progressive buzzword. Phobia... I must run from anyone who speaks without a cockney accent. Anyone that uses the word phobia to trash politila opposition is a moron who cant think for themselves.

[Libertarian California]

The problem that we're the minority.

How is that a problem?

Minorities have a history of not being treated well...

[Mandicoria]

As long as Harp Seals aren't the new majority, there's no problem.

[Divair]

And why should we accept it? You are claiming the Norman invasion of Mercia is justification for the ethnic replacement of modern Brits. Its an insane comparison.

We didnt have a welfare state, we barely had a large government. Trade, culture, language was radically different. Today is different from a thousand years ago.

Hilarious progressive buzzword. Phobia... I must run from anyone who speaks without a cockney accent. Anyone that uses the word phobia to trash politila opposition is a moron who cant think for themselves.

You just have a phobia of phobias.

[The German Federal-Republic]

What problems?

The problem that we're the minority.

That isn't a problem

[Death Metal]

Lots more rape and murder back then, yes.

That and back then, in the good old days, at least the immigrants coming in were mostly European.

Lets not pretend that isn't what hes saying.

We've already established he's a racist, though.

[Confederate Germany]

The problem that we're the minority.

How is that a problem?

The problem that one day Caucasians might not exist.

[Divair]

How is that a problem?

The problem that one day Caucasians might not exist.

How is that a problem?

[Death Metal]

And why should we accept it? You are claiming the Norman invasion of Mercia is justification for the ethnic replacement of modern Brits. Its an insane comparison.

We didnt have a welfare state, we barely had a large government. Trade, culture, language was radically different. Today is different from a thousand years ago.

Hilarious progressive buzzword. Phobia... I must run from anyone who speaks without a cockney accent. Anyone that uses the word phobia to trash politila opposition is a moron who cant think for themselves.

You just have a phobia of phobias.

Not to be confused with Phobiaphobia, fear of the larger of Mars' moons.