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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:12 pm

Arrakis Dune wrote:So much fallacy.


I'm not sure you know what a fallacy is.

Arrakis Dune wrote:People linved differently, they were more content with large famillies in small housing. Thats a different argument altogether, unless you want people living in squalor. The usual white yuppie reply, WHY DONT YOU LIVE IN CRAMPED HOUSING THEN WHITE BOY.


Hmm. So the reason why there was no housing shortage in 1939 - when London's population was at it's peak - but there is one now... is because family structures have changed, and extended families no longer live in one house?

I agree with you - that's actually supported by the historical record.

But it makes the argument that it's because of immigration a transparent lie.

Arrakis Dune wrote:We built better housing for a future generations. It was given to immigrant post 90s so yes, there is a majori shortage.


Actually, if you really want to study why the demographics changed, you should research the New Towns - because you're looking at the uptick on a trend, and not understanding why the trend trended in the first place - the mass migration of (primarily working-class) Londoners OUT OF London two decades earlier.

Arrakis Dune wrote:And no, living in a white suburbian area and visiting central London is not the same as living in DIVERSITY.


Not sure what your point is supposed to be.

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Postby Death Metal » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:12 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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In other words: "Might makes right... eventually."


Well it would be nearly impossible to return this land back to the Natives...so it's best to make do with it and hold on to it for as long as we can.


Well we could have if we didn't, you know, kill 97% of them when they originally welcomed us.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:12 pm

Condunum wrote:
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I'm almost entirely sure that Condunum is not middle class, nor white.
I'm certainly not.

I am white, actually. I'm working class bordering on economic failure.


Well, 50/100 isn't so bad.
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Postby Antares XII » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:12 pm

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ITT: Liebertarians

Please stop claiming to be something you clearly aren't.

You are not a libertarian. You do not acknowledge the supremacy of the free market over the state. You're blatantly opposing the free movement of labour, replacing it with protectionist measures that limit the industry's access to labour, thereby raising production costs and reducing competitiveness. You're, at best, a mercantilist. But nothing, absolutely nothing about you and your opinions is about liberty.


I am indeed a libertarian:

Tow, on libertarianism, wrote:The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy defines libertarianism as the moral view that agents initially fully own themselves and have certain moral powers to acquire property rights in external things. Libertarian philosopher Roderick Long defines libertarianism as "any political position that advocates a radical redistribution of power from the coercive state to voluntary associations of free individuals", whether "voluntary association" takes the form of the free market or of communal co-operatives. According to the U.S. Libertarian Party, libertarianism is the advocacy of a government that is funded voluntarily and limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.


Emphasis mine. However, if you were only referring to LC, then carry on (because frankly I can't fight everyone's wars for them, I was merely pointing out that national sovereignty is important). As stated before,

Not that I feel this way about the US
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:12 pm

Theonureos wrote:You become truly free.

To a certain degree, that's actually true. Having no allegiance to any country or ethnicity lets me view quite a lot of subjects with a far less biased view than most.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:12 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Condunum wrote:I am white, actually. I'm working class bordering on economic failure.


Well, 50/100 isn't so bad.

Do I really give the impression of not being white? O_o
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:13 pm

Condunum wrote:
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Well, 50/100 isn't so bad.

Do I really give the impression of not being white? O_o


For some reason I have this memory of you saying you were black and working class. It's probably another Consomeone.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:13 pm

Condunum wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Well, 50/100 isn't so bad.

Do I really give the impression of not being white? O_o

No, not really.
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Postby Arrakis Dune » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:13 pm

Death Metal wrote:If you gave a fuck at all about national heritage you would know the first people to permanently settle in current-day London was THE ROMANS.

And? Do I deny Roman heritage?

Oh cry me a fucking river. You want to know suffering? Join an NGO that does work in Darfur. Stop with your incessent, racist First World whininess.


Why would I do that? Only a white yuppie fool would do such a thing. Those people are not your responsibility and usually, your intervenion worsens things. Unless you think all that Aid to Africa feeding starving kids who breed more starving kids while destroying food markets helps them? Oh wait, you didn't, becuase your bleeding heart runs on emotion and not logic or reasoning.

STOP DISCUSSING MAJOR ISSUES WHICH AFFECT YOUR LIFE!!! ITS FIRST WORLD RACISM WHILE I CONTINUE MY WHITE MANS BURDEN HELPING THESE AFRICANS WHO CANT HELP THEMSELVES!!!

Typical white yuppie.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Theonureos wrote:I'm Hispanic, and, like or not, this guy's got a point. What's wrong with living with your own people?


I was born in Waltham Forest. 'My own people' are ethnically diverse.

Perhaps the question shouldn't be 'What's wrong with living with your own people' - but 'what's wrong with diversity'?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Divair wrote:
Theonureos wrote:You become truly free.

To a certain degree, that's actually true. Having no allegiance to any country or ethnicity lets me view quite a lot of subjects with a far less biased view than most.

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Postby Shaggai » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Condunum wrote:I am white, actually. I'm working class bordering on economic failure.


Well, 50/100 isn't so bad.

Yes it is, it's only 50 percent!
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Condunum wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Well, 50/100 isn't so bad.

Do I really give the impression of not being white? O_o

Better question: Who the hell can judge what race you are on the internet? o.o
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Condunum wrote:Do I really give the impression of not being white? O_o


For some reason I have this memory of you saying you were black and working class. It's probably another Consomeone.
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Oh. Perhaps I said it as a joke to Mav or someone, but I don't recall saying that. :P
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Arrakis Dune wrote:
Death Metal wrote:If you gave a fuck at all about national heritage you would know the first people to permanently settle in current-day London was THE ROMANS.


Why would I do that? Only a white yuppie fool would do such a thing. Those people are not your responsibility and usually, your intervenion worsens things. Unless you think all that Aid to Africa feeding starving kids who breed more starving kids while destroying food markets helps them? Oh wait, you didn't, becuase your bleeding heart runs on emotion and not logic or reasoning.

STOP DISCUSSING MAJOR ISSUES WHICH AFFECT YOUR LIFE!!! ITS FIRST WORLD RACISM WHILE I CONTINUE MY WHITE MANS BURDEN HELPING THESE AFRICANS WHO CANT HELP THEMSELVES!!!

Typical white yuppie.


Look mate, I don't know a single British person who uses the word Yuppie as much as you do.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 pm

Man this such an awesome meltdown.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 pm

Divair wrote:
Condunum wrote:Do I really give the impression of not being white? O_o

Better question: Who the hell can just what race you are on the internet? o.o

Apparently, Arrakis Dune dan.
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Postby The Little Village Up The Coast » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 pm

This is all a plot by Barack HUSSEIN Obama to:
1) Increase the Democratic voter base. (dirty immigrants always vote for Democrats!)
2) Get enough support to introduce Sharia law.
3) Turn the USA into a socialist welfare state (lazy immigrants are all on welfare!)

This is proof that the liberals are destroying America!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Well, 50/100 isn't so bad.

Yes it is, it's only 50 percent!


More than enough to run a country with, apparently.
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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Arrakis Dune wrote:
Why would I do that? Only a white yuppie fool would do such a thing. Those people are not your responsibility and usually, your intervenion worsens things. Unless you think all that Aid to Africa feeding starving kids who breed more starving kids while destroying food markets helps them? Oh wait, you didn't, becuase your bleeding heart runs on emotion and not logic or reasoning.

STOP DISCUSSING MAJOR ISSUES WHICH AFFECT YOUR LIFE!!! ITS FIRST WORLD RACISM WHILE I CONTINUE MY WHITE MANS BURDEN HELPING THESE AFRICANS WHO CANT HELP THEMSELVES!!!

Typical white yuppie.


Look mate, I don't know a single British person who uses the word Yuppie as much as you do.


I heard that word for the first time in years. :ugeek:
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Postby Libertarian California » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 pm

Death Metal wrote:
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Well it would be nearly impossible to return this land back to the Natives...so it's best to make do with it and hold on to it for as long as we can.


Well we could have if we didn't, you know, kill 97% of them when they originally welcomed us.


But we did kill them and we can't really undo that, so...
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Postby Choronzon » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 pm

Should this bother me?

Cause it doesn't.

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Postby Mushet » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Arglorand wrote:"a country that isn't theirs"

what constitutes when a country starts to be "theirs"? How would you define it?


A country is not theirs if they aren't assimilated into the culture and don't identify with the existing nations. Now before you bring up the Native Americans, I'm going to say this:

Yes, what we did to the Natives was essentially an invasion. It was wrong. It violated their self-determination and destroyed their culture. The land was theirs, and the English took it. However, that has passed. The land now belongs to the Americans. And Americans are a cultural group, not an ethnic group.

The Americans took it more than the English, and you seem to be dismissing us as if we no longer exist, our treaties no longer hold weight and America hasn't still been doing that type of shit to Native Americans. You just seem to be overlooking all of that in order to sing the praises of your colonial settler state founded on murder, theft, fraud and hypocrisy.
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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:16 pm

On another thought, does this mean that Whites will receive benefits in school more?
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Postby Edlichbury » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:16 pm

Arrakis Dune wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Yes. It means you've never read a history book.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_%28politics%29

London has been nativist since the 16th Century. You clearly dont know any of your own History. Typical of a white yuppie. Immigration act of 1905? And the many other acts prior?

You mean the capital of a nation who's identity is an odd mixture of Norse, Welsh, Celtic, French, Roman, Breton, and several other things demands that there be no foreign influence? Nice grasp of history you have.

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