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by Arrakis Dune » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:07 pm
Condunum wrote:Balls to what you want. If the people who have the same thing as you in mind are the minority in your nation, you don't get to dominate the culture and tell them what to do.

by Libertarian California » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:08 pm
Nazis in Space wrote:And for the record, I don't just randomly troll libertarians with this.Nazis in Space wrote:You're telling businesses that they can't hire whoever they want. You're telling businesses that they've to hire a specific set of people who just so happen to demand higher wages than the people artificially removed from the labour market.
You're staggeringly anti-business, and following blatant unionism (Which do, after all, try to force precisely this practice: 'Only hire unionised people!').
Again. You're not a libertarian. You're a mercantilist and unionist.
That's fine. I'm not telling you that you can't be such.
I'm telling you that you shouldn't claim to be a libertarian when you aren't one.
There's real, genuine libertarians on NS. Sibirsky comes to mind. Or Allanea. I'd never even think about suggesting that they aren't libertarians - while I do disagree with their opinions, they're the real deal, consistent in their arguments, and logical within their frame of reference. They absolutely are libertarians. Real ones.
You are not.

by Arglorand » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:08 pm

by Theonureos » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:08 pm
Napkiraly wrote:Theonureos wrote:
I'm Hispanic, and, like or not, this guy's got a point. What's wrong with living with your own people?
I don't have a problem either way. I don't give a shit if a person is White European, Hispanic, Black, Asian, etc. It's got fuck all to do with who they are as human beings.


by The Rich Port » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:08 pm
Theonureos wrote:Arrakis Dune wrote:
No you don't. Token minorities are not diversity.
So much fallacy. People linved differently, they were more content with large famillies in small housing. Thats a different argument altogether, unless you want people living in squalor. The usual white yuppie reply, WHY DONT YOU LIVE IN CRAMPED HOUSING THEN WHITE BOY.
We built better housing for a future generations. It was given to immigrant post 90s so yes, there is a majori shortage.
And no, living in a white suburbian area and visiting central London is not the same as living in DIVERSITY.
I hate you white yuppie fucks.
I'm Hispanic, and, like or not, this guy's got a point. What's wrong with living with your own people?

by Rio Cana » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:08 pm


by Death Metal » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:08 pm
Libertarian California wrote:Arglorand wrote:"a country that isn't theirs"
what constitutes when a country starts to be "theirs"? How would you define it?
A country is not theirs if they aren't assimilated into the culture and don't identify with the existing nations. Now before you bring up the Native Americans, I'm going to say this:
Yes, what we did to the Natives was essentially an invasion. It was wrong. It violated their self-determination and destroyed their culture. The land was theirs, and the English took it. However, that has passed. The land now belongs to the Americans. And Americans are a cultural group, not an ethnic group.

by Blekksprutia » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:09 pm


by Napkiraly » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:09 pm
Theonureos wrote:Napkiraly wrote:I don't have a problem either way. I don't give a shit if a person is White European, Hispanic, Black, Asian, etc. It's got fuck all to do with who they are as human beings.
Very true.
Unfortunately, for every decent human being, there are probably at least 10 assholes.

by Libertarian California » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:09 pm
Death Metal wrote:Libertarian California wrote:
A country is not theirs if they aren't assimilated into the culture and don't identify with the existing nations. Now before you bring up the Native Americans, I'm going to say this:
Yes, what we did to the Natives was essentially an invasion. It was wrong. It violated their self-determination and destroyed their culture. The land was theirs, and the English took it. However, that has passed. The land now belongs to the Americans. And Americans are a cultural group, not an ethnic group.
In other words: "Might makes right... eventually."

by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:10 pm
Arrakis Dune wrote:Condunum wrote:Balls to what you want. If the people who have the same thing as you in mind are the minority in your nation, you don't get to dominate the culture and tell them what to do.
As usual, the use of minority is used. Its horrible for immigrants to eb minorities but natives being a minority is perfectly OK, right?
We are the majority. You white middle class progressives are the minority and our number every year. UKIP scored a quarter of the national vote, I dont doubt that numer skyrocketed when two African Muslims attempted to cut off a White Mans head in London. Not that I entirely support UKIP, but I am forced to as they are the only party
capable of plugging the overflowing leak.
But ee will grow. The system will fail and we will rise. History always repeats.

by Blekksprutia » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:10 pm

by Arrakis Dune » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:10 pm

by Vazdania » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:10 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Arrakis Dune wrote:
As usual, the use of minority is used. Its horrible for immigrants to eb minorities but natives being a minority is perfectly OK, right?
We are the majority. You white middle class progressives are the minority and our number every year. UKIP scored a quarter of the national vote, I dont doubt that numer skyrocketed when two African Muslims attempted to cut off a White Mans head in London. Not that I entirely support UKIP, but I am forced to as they are the only party
capable of plugging the overflowing leak.
But ee will grow. The system will fail and we will rise. History always repeats.
I'm almost entirely sure that Condunum is not middle class, nor white.
I'm certainly not.


by Condunum » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:10 pm
Arrakis Dune wrote:Condunum wrote:Balls to what you want. If the people who have the same thing as you in mind are the minority in your nation, you don't get to dominate the culture and tell them what to do.
As usual, the use of minority is used. Its horrible for immigrants to eb minorities but natives being a minority is perfectly OK, right?
We are the majority.
You white middle class progressives are the minority and our number every year.
UKIP scored a quarter of the national vote, I dont doubt that numer skyrocketed when two African Muslims attempted to cut off a White Mans head in London.
Not that I entirely support UKIP, but I am forced to as they are the only party
capable of plugging the overflowing leak.
But ee will grow. The system will fail and we will rise. History always repeats.

by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:11 pm

by Arglorand » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:11 pm

by Theonureos » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:11 pm

by Condunum » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:11 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Arrakis Dune wrote:
As usual, the use of minority is used. Its horrible for immigrants to eb minorities but natives being a minority is perfectly OK, right?
We are the majority. You white middle class progressives are the minority and our number every year. UKIP scored a quarter of the national vote, I dont doubt that numer skyrocketed when two African Muslims attempted to cut off a White Mans head in London. Not that I entirely support UKIP, but I am forced to as they are the only party
capable of plugging the overflowing leak.
But ee will grow. The system will fail and we will rise. History always repeats.
I'm almost entirely sure that Condunum is not middle class, nor white.
I'm certainly not.
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