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Does God Exist

Yes
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37%
No
213
46%
Maybe so
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Total votes : 467

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Anachronous Rex
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:38 pm

Matta wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:That... wouldn't pass a Turing test.


Read the bible and you will actually understand. Most atheist don't even read the bible and claim that it isn't true you don't know whats in there .

I have read the Bible.

Have you?
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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:38 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Ughh, I don't even know anymore, all I know is that this argument is dragging on forever, which was the point I was trying to make earlier.

Ok let's start over.
The bible is real because _____________________________.
Please fill in the blank with a valid response and we can work from there.

The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.

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Pandeeria
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:38 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Ok let's start over.
The bible is real because _____________________________.
Please fill in the blank with a valid response and we can work from there.


What is valid if you can't even listen to a Bible verse and try to analyse it? Seems rather hypocritical from my perspective.

If god gave you free thinking, wouldn't he want you to question him. Maybe he is real but sends all the atheists to heaven for making use of the the tool of free thinking.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:38 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Ok let's start over.
The bible is real because _____________________________.
Please fill in the blank with a valid response and we can work from there.

The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.


And you know this because?
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

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New Libertarian States
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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:38 pm

Matta wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:That... wouldn't pass a Turing test.


Read the bible and you will actually understand. Most atheist don't even read the bible and claim that it isn't true you don't know whats in there .

And you know the majority of atheists on planet earth.
Right?
Otherwise, that statement is false.
Unless backed up by facts.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:39 pm

Matta wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:That... wouldn't pass a Turing test.


Read the bible and you will actually understand. Most atheist don't even read the bible and claim that it isn't true you don't know whats in there .

"And jeebus will come save us all on his big wooden bus because all the dirty jews and moslems and sinning, emaciated african children will burn in the eternal hellfire"

Yeah, turns out the Bible kind of sucks.

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Slazliyka
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Postby Slazliyka » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:39 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Ok let's start over.
The bible is real because _____________________________.
Please fill in the blank with a valid response and we can work from there.

The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.


We know that the writers of the bible were given facts by god or guided by god because _________________

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Postby Czechanada » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:39 pm

Matta wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:That... wouldn't pass a Turing test.


Read the bible and you will actually understand. Most atheist don't even read the bible and claim that it isn't true you don't know whats in there .


I think most people here on NSG have read the Bible.

Boring stuff for me, personally.
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Matta
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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:39 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Matta wrote:
Read the bible and you will actually understand. Most atheist don't even read the bible and claim that it isn't true you don't know whats in there .

I have read the Bible.

Have you?


No never i just have based all this on what I've heard from a high hippie(says in a sarcastic tone)
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:39 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Ok let's start over.
The bible is real because _____________________________.
Please fill in the blank with a valid response and we can work from there.

The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.

/pro͞of/
Noun
Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

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Pandeeria
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:40 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Ok let's start over.
The bible is real because _____________________________.
Please fill in the blank with a valid response and we can work from there.

The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.

So where is the proof they were guided by god himself? Photos? Videos? Foot prints? Something? Anything? Evidence is required. Or it's just a weak claim.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:40 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.


And you know this because?

Don't they say it, multiple times?

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Bundesdeutschland
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Postby Bundesdeutschland » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:40 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Bundesdeutschland wrote:
What is valid if you can't even listen to a Bible verse and try to analyse it? Seems rather hypocritical from my perspective.

"I have swam to Jupiter and back"
There is a verse from me. And analyze it? It's just someone that wrote something down. Mere desert stories.


Read the Bible then before you begin to criticize someone over something you've never actually read.
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Matta
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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:40 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.

So where is the proof they were guided by god himself? Photos? Videos? Foot prints? Something? Anything? Evidence is required. Or it's just a weak claim.


With that logic a lot of history is a weak claim.
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's not even true according to Christian theology no one could keep the Law anyway Luther said it is to act as a mirror so we see our filth.

However, the longest chapter in the Bible Psalm 119... what does king David spend the most time talking about... his Love for the Messiah?

No. How sweet and precious God's Laws are.

For it is not in heaven... it is not across the sea... it is near to us.


God's Laws are precious, but they were, unfortunately, distorted by the simony and traditionalism within the Sanhedrin and within Judaism altogether. In other words, they've lost their first love for God. Matthew 15:8- "These people draw near unto me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."

Really... it is exactly the Oral Law that God loves and Jesus believed in!

Isaiah 49:15
"Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you!

God's promise to his people is eternal.

We can keep The Law, and check your Christian theology, by that standards no one could keep The Law it wasn't Judaism who ruined The law.. the law could never have been kept in the first place.

The simony that took place was among the Saddcuees a fringe sect of Judaism.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And you know this because?

Don't they say it, multiple times?

And my writing say that gods came out of the sea, and a hawk headed warrior fights a giant serpent every night to insure its not eaten.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
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Postby The Basement of Your Mom » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:2. The universe is the largest isolated system. The law does not allow for the destruction of energy only the transfer of energy into alternate forms.


Energy is not a thing. It is not stuff. You can't hold it. You can't say what it's made of. Energy is just a quantity. It can be measured, but so can length.

Energy conservation states that it is physically impossible for a closed, isolated system to transfer from a state of energy E to a state of energy E' =/= E. It's perfectly in line with energy conservation to go from a state with energy E to another state with energy E. The universe is, by all current observational evidence, in a state of energy E = 0.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:"I have swam to Jupiter and back"
There is a verse from me. And analyze it? It's just someone that wrote something down. Mere desert stories.


Read the Bible then before you begin to criticize someone over something you've never actually read.

There's a difference between criticizing the bible and pointing out when you say something that's fucking stupid.

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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The Bible is real because the people who wrote it were given the facts by God Himself, or at least guided along.

/pro͞of/
Noun
Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

Alright then, you know what, never mind. Just forget I wrote the post. It is useless trying to prove my point here.

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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And you know this because?

Don't they say it, multiple times?


So you are saying that you know the bible is true because the bible says it is true?
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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New Libertarian States
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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:42 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:"I have swam to Jupiter and back"
There is a verse from me. And analyze it? It's just someone that wrote something down. Mere desert stories.


Read the Bible then before you begin to criticize someone over something you've never actually read.

And you know he hasn't read the bible how?
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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The Grey Wolf
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:42 pm

Menassa wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
:eyebrow: I know that Jews believe that Satan didn't rebel. Just that the Christian God is the same as the Jewish one, therefore I used the term Judeo-Christian.

It's not the same God you see... because one loves The Law and the other calls it a curse.

One damns those to hell who do not believe... the other doesn't have eternal hell.

Do you know which is which?


Christians don't say that the seed of a Gentile is worth the same as the seed of a donkey. Neither did the New Testament God order his men to kill all the young boys and their mothers, while taking the young virgin girls to be their wives. By your logic, the New Testament God is better than the Old Testament God.

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Pandeeria
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:42 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:"I have swam to Jupiter and back"
There is a verse from me. And analyze it? It's just someone that wrote something down. Mere desert stories.


Read the Bible then before you begin to criticize someone over something you've never actually read.

I have or at least learned the teaching of the bible. As a young kid, my parents tried to raise me to be Christain. At one point I was, until I started thinking for myself.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Slafstopia » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:42 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And you know this because?

Don't they say it, multiple times?


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Postby Slazliyka » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:42 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And you know this because?

Don't they say it, multiple times?


So because somebody says they received information from god, they are automatically right?

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