Does God Exist?

[Pandeeria]

Yes, what a loving person. So forgiving.

No, fuck that god. Fuck him in the ass. Fuck him sideways, fuck him against the wall. Fuck him here, fuck him there, fuck him everywhere. Fuck him with a moose, fuck him on a caboose. Fuck him in a shoe, fuck him in a canoe.

That god is a prick, and he will never be my god.

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

Why do you like to live in a place where a horrible, evil deity exists and thrives?

[Matta]

Also Satan was an angel but he decide he wanted to take God's sovereignty so he became the devil and caused Adam and Eve to disobey. Satan became the father of lies and he is the cause of pain and suffering and us being imperfect.

Yeah, we've all heard the fairy tale.

If you don't want to believe in god that is your choice I for one will believe in God aka Jehovah.

[Anachronous Rex]

Yes, what a loving person. So forgiving.

No, fuck that god. Fuck him in the ass. Fuck him sideways, fuck him against the wall. Fuck him here, fuck him there, fuck him everywhere. Fuck him with a moose, fuck him on a caboose. Fuck him in a shoe, fuck him in a canoe.

That god is a prick, and he will never be my god.

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

I'm shivering.

[Angle Empire]

Also Satan was an angel but he decide he wanted to take God's sovereignty so he became the devil and caused Adam and Eve to disobey. Satan became the father of lies and he is the cause of pain and suffering and us being imperfect.

Yeah, we've all heard the fairy tale.

Your personal opinion on the issue doesn't change the fact if it is or isn't true. I could call Pluto a fairy tale also, but it doesn't change that fact hat Pluto exists.

[Bundesdeutschland]

Also Satan was an angel but he decide he wanted to take God's sovereignty so he became the devil and caused Adam and Eve to disobey. Satan became the father of lies and he is the cause of pain and suffering and us being imperfect.

And where is that Biblically?

Not in the book of Job.

Isiah!! Isaiah 14:12-22 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

Ezekiel! Ezekiel 28:12-19 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

[Condunum]

Yes, what a loving person. So forgiving.

No, fuck that god. Fuck him in the ass. Fuck him sideways, fuck him against the wall. Fuck him here, fuck him there, fuck him everywhere. Fuck him with a moose, fuck him on a caboose. Fuck him in a shoe, fuck him in a canoe.

That god is a prick, and he will never be my god.

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

My fate is that of every human. I will do as I do, act as I act, work on my own moral code and commit all actions based on what I feel is right. If there is an afterlife, any omnipotent being would reward me for acting on what I believe to be the objective good, and not whether or not I believe in him. If you believe that's how he works, you're selfish.

[Slazliyka]

Yes, what a loving person. So forgiving.

No, fuck that god. Fuck him in the ass. Fuck him sideways, fuck him against the wall. Fuck him here, fuck him there, fuck him everywhere. Fuck him with a moose, fuck him on a caboose. Fuck him in a shoe, fuck him in a canoe.

That god is a prick, and he will never be my god.

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

Prove that your god exists.

Right now.

[Menassa]

Actually Isaiah 45:7 says God does create evil.

But many Jews accept that god is not wholly nice and good all the time. It's Christians that insist on omnibenevolence as a necessary property of god.

Many Jews worshiped the Golden Calf... what we see as 'nice' and what God sees as 'nice' are two different things.

The example of a vaccination has been given, to a child... the only thing they feel is pain... even though it benefits them they would rather not have it.

[Condunum]

Yeah, we've all heard the fairy tale.

Your personal opinion on the issue doesn't change the fact if it is or isn't true. I could call Pluto a fairy tale also, but it doesn't change that fact hat Pluto exists.

Did I give my personal opinion? No? Okay.

[The New Lowlands]

Yes, what a loving person. So forgiving.

No, fuck that god. Fuck him in the ass. Fuck him sideways, fuck him against the wall. Fuck him here, fuck him there, fuck him everywhere. Fuck him with a moose, fuck him on a caboose. Fuck him in a shoe, fuck him in a canoe.

That god is a prick, and he will never be my god.

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

If God's this big, all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful entity that can do whatever, (assuming his existence,) why the hell do you think he gives a damn about what we think about him?

[The Grey Wolf]

One thing I didn't get about the Judeo-Christian God and Satan. Satan was an angel, and angels are supposed to have no free will. If Satan had no free will, how was he able to rebel? And how did one-third of the angels join him?

[The Orson Empire]

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

I'm shivering.

So you want to burn in hell for eternity?

[Matta]

Also Satan was an angel but he decide he wanted to take God's sovereignty so he became the devil and caused Adam and Eve to disobey. Satan became the father of lies and he is the cause of pain and suffering and us being imperfect.

So here's a question: Why didn't god kill him?

He certainly killed enough other people that we know he doesn't have a problem with it.

He had prove his sovereignty because Satan said that the human race only followed him for their own well being. So he is proving right now that what Satan is saying is not true.

[Angle Empire]

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

Prove that your god exists.

Right now.

(OA1) It’s possible that an all-surpassingly great being exists (i.e. a being greater than which nothing can be conceived). In other words, an all-surpassingly great being exists in some possible world.

(OA2) If an all-surpassingly great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.

(OA3) If an all-surpassingly great being in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world (since the actual world is clearly a possible world).

(OA4) If an all-surpassingly great being exists in the actual world, then an all-surpassingly great being actually exists.

[The New Lowlands]

I'm shivering.

So you want to burn in hell for eternity?

That's like telling an adult that Santa won't get him anything for Christmas.

[Pandeeria]

I'm shivering.

So you want to burn in hell for eternity?

Please prove there is a hell. Please prove something from your religion is true and you shall get a cookie. Please, evidence please.

[Bundesdeutschland]

Then so be it then. You've sealed your fate.

Why do you like to live in a place where a horrible, evil deity exists and thrives?

Because it's reality!!!! I don't live in a delusional world! Not like some others on here do! Good exists! Evil exists! What more should I say?! It's not like I'd like to live in this world; it's because I have an incentive to live this world! I KNOW that I'd be going to heaven if I died! You get that?!

...

I'm sorry for being so harsh, but reality is like that.

[Menassa]

And where is that Biblically?

Not in the book of Job.

Isiah!! Isaiah 14:12-22 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

Ezekiel! Ezekiel 28:12-19 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Your first quote is not only a mistranslation but in Isaiah 14:4 it says it's talking about the King of Babylon.

Your second quote... I don't know why you did this but let me out line it for you.
"Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus,"

You should have pulled a Paul and only quoted the latter half of the verse.

[Frisivisia]

I'm shivering.

So you want to burn in hell for eternity?

Why would God punish me for holding logic and reason before him? If he's a benevolent God, why should he punish me for following what I truly believe whilst being a good person?

[The Basement of Your Mom]

Prove that your god exists.

Right now.

Σ_n=1^∞(n) = -1/12, therefore god exists.

[Condunum]

My god will never be that of the Christian god, or at least the version you two describe. He is selfish, conceited and sociopathic. My god neither cares what we do nor acts upon us, as he is not a god of material existence or interference. He simply exists. Or doesn't.

[The New Lowlands]

Prove that your god exists.

Right now.

(OA1) It’s possible that an all-surpassingly great being exists (i.e. a being greater than which nothing can be conceived). In other words, an all-surpassingly great being exists in some possible world.

(OA2) If an all-surpassingly great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world. No.

(OA3) If an all-surpassingly great being in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world (since the actual world is clearly a possible world).

(OA4) If an all-surpassingly great being exists in the actual world, then an all-surpassingly great being actually exists.

[The Orson Empire]

So you want to burn in hell for eternity?

Please prove there is a hell. Please prove something from your religion is true and you shall get a cookie. Please, evidence please.

....The Bible.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Good question. But as I said to someone else, We can only speak of God, we cannot speak for God.


Religion is not for God's benefit. His existence is not dependent on your belief in him. Religion is for your benefit For you to draw closer to him. Whether you choose to or not, is ultimately up to you.

Query;

Why bother?

Because while his existence is not dependent on you, your existence is dependent on him.

It is he who has the righteous authority to Judge the World, and no other.

[Pandeeria]

So here's a question: Why didn't god kill him?

He certainly killed enough other people that we know he doesn't have a problem with it.

He had prove his sovereignty because Satan said that the human race only followed him for their own well being. So he is proving right now that what Satan is saying is not true.

But do you worship him because you don't want to go to hell = for your own well being.