Does God Exist?

[Pandeeria]

I know this is kind of nit picking here but:

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 114 helpful votes

So this is the requirement right? Believing in him? So someone like Adolf Hitler should get to heaven? Pastors that molested children can go to heaven? Mud era and rapists are off the hook because they believe and they asked for forgiveness?

[The Orson Empire]

God created both us and Satan. What an asshole.

Another thing, you didn't read my earlier post about evil being the absence of good. He created us and He knew this would happen. He let this happen to test us to see if we truly love him. Apparently you don't so so be it.

All he's going to say is that God is an asshole for doing that.

[Slarvainian]

Yes I do believe in god. I but it is a matter of faith and if people want to believe in some other form of a god, or many gods, or no gods, that is there own right and own choosing.

[Matta]

This is directed towards evolutionist.
You people believe the Big Bang right?
Well this is basically what the big bang is
First there was nothing then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs and you think that believing in a deity is far-fetched.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

No, Tarsonis is right. We did create suffering, though it was partially Satan's fault also.

But your god created Satan. And didn't your god create EVERYTHING? Even sin?

How Can God create that which is not of him? Sin is an absence of God, a turn away from God.

[The Basement of Your Mom]

We can destroy "stuff"... Can we?

Yes, but only in a way which respects conservation laws. You can destroy photons with impunity because they have no mass and no charge. Destroying matte requires more creative methods, as does creating matter.

[Anachronous Rex]

Then why's God an asshole? Better yet, why create suffering, God, you massive scumbag?

God didn't create suffering. We did. Suffering exists because Sin exists. Earth is not paradise. Heaven is paradise, where no suffering exists, and consequently, no sin exists.

Explain to me exactly how sin created bot flies?

[Esparmuran]

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[Bundesdeutschland]

God created Satan as if he were on of us. Satan (Lucifer at the time) however became arrogant and proud and tried to overthrow God. Not God's fault, but Lucifer's own. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN CRIMES, NOT GOD.

If God creates someone, he creates their mind, correct?

We have free will do decide whether we can obey God or not. Our souls are naturally weak and without God we are lost. We'll easily fall into Satan's grasp.

[The Orson Empire]

I know this is kind of nit picking here but:

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

So this is the requirement right? Believing in him? So someone like Adolf Hitler should get to heaven? Pastors that molested children can go to heaven? Mud era and rapists are off the hook because they believe and they asked for forgiveness?

Well, if they truly believe in God and truly want forgiveness, not just a free trip to Heaven, then they can get in.

[Frisivisia]

If God creates someone, he creates their mind, correct?

Well, the angels were given some free will, otherwise Satan wouldn't have been able to rebel against God.

God can't be omniscient and have free will be a thing.

God created both us and Satan. What an asshole.

Another thing, you didn't read my earlier post about evil being the absence of good. He created us and He knew this would happen. He let this happen to test us to see if we truly love him. Apparently you don't so so be it.

Why would God test his own creations if he knows everything and created them? Why not allow us to exist in eternal bliss without a fucking test? Why does he have to be a total bastard about it?

[The Basement of Your Mom]

How Can God create that which is not of him?

The same way I, a lowly human who isn't all-powerful, can create stuff that isn't "of me."

[Frisivisia]

If God creates someone, he creates their mind, correct?

We have free will do decide whether we can obey God or not. Our souls are naturally weak and without God we are lost. We'll easily fall into Satan's grasp.

Free will can't exist with an omniscient God.

[Condunum]

God created both us and Satan. What an asshole.

Another thing, you didn't read my earlier post about evil being the absence of good. He created us and He knew this would happen. He let this happen to test us to see if we truly love him. Apparently you don't so so be it.

Evil is not the absence of good.

[The Rich Port]

We can destroy "stuff"... Can we?

Yes, but only in a way which respects conservation laws. You can destroy photons with impunity because they have no mass and no charge. Destroying matte requires more creative methods, as does creating matter.

Huh. That's almost a metaphor for this debate. Now let's hope people read this.

I, The Rich Port, lord of YOUR mom, dub thee "Sir Basement the Science Guy".

[DrakoBlaria]

I know this is kind of nit picking here but:

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 114 helpful votes

So this is the requirement right? Believing in him? So someone like Adolf Hitler should get to heaven? Pastors that molested children can go to heaven? Mud era and rapists are off the hook because they believe and they asked for forgiveness?

By him he does not mean to just accept him as the Lord, but to follow his teachings

[Pandeeria]

But your god created Satan. And didn't your god create EVERYTHING? Even sin?

How Can God create that which is not of him? Sin is an absence of God, a turn away from God.

How can god create something that is not him? He created animals, not him. Plants, not him. Satan, not him, Diseases like cancer, aids and malaria, not him.

And sin is an absence of god, so didnt sin come before god?

[Slarvainian]

This is directed towards evolutionist.
You people believe the Big Bang right?
Well this is basically what the big bang is
First there was nothing then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs and you think that believing in a deity is far-fetched.

But isn't it amazing what our god created. A small scientific reaction that eventually evolved into life?

[The Basement of Your Mom]

This is directed towards evolutionist.
You people believe the Big Bang right?
Well this is basically what the big bang is
First there was nothing then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs and you think that believing in a deity is far-fetched.

Yes, this is exactly what modern cosmologists think and is in no way a straw-man or a distortion.

[Anachronous Rex]

If God creates someone, he creates their mind, correct?

We have free will do decide whether we can obey God or not. Our souls are naturally weak and without God we are lost. We'll easily fall into Satan's grasp.

Which is okay, because he's a huge cuttlebug.

[Frisivisia]

This is directed towards evolutionist.
You people believe the Big Bang right?
Well this is basically what the big bang is
First there was nothing then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs and you think that believing in a deity is far-fetched.

You have a very poor understanding of science, summer.

[Condunum]

This is directed towards evolutionist.
You people believe the Big Bang right?
Well this is basically what the big bang is
First there was nothing then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs and you think that believing in a deity is far-fetched.

You do not deserve the name matta.

[The Orson Empire]

Well, the angels were given some free will, otherwise Satan wouldn't have been able to rebel against God.

God can't be omniscient and have free will be a thing.

Another thing, you didn't read my earlier post about evil being the absence of good. He created us and He knew this would happen. He let this happen to test us to see if we truly love him. Apparently you don't so so be it.

Why would God test his own creations if he knows everything and created them? Why not allow us to exist in eternal bliss without a fucking test? Why does he have to be a total bastard about it?

I really don't know. I myself am still learning the Bible (besides the basics).

[The Rich Port]

This is directed towards evolutionist.
You people believe the Big Bang right?
Well this is basically what the big bang is
First there was nothing then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs and you think that believing in a deity is far-fetched.

Evolution has NOTHING to do with The Big Bang.

[The Basement of Your Mom]

Evil is not the absence of good.

Murder is the absence of non-murder, which is composed of anti-homicidium.