Does God Exist?

[New Libertarian States]

Ad Hominem anybody?
Grilled to the peak of logical fallacy.

He called me a bullshit spewer and you didn't raise an Ad Hominem.
Imbalanced anybody?
Propagandist to the core.

You dismissed his arguments because he's a "thug" he listened to you, them called you that.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Because they never researched her.
Most people just take what is spoon fed to them.
But, there as those who question, and find out what actually happened.
And no, I hate Infowars and Alex jones.

Then just stop saying that your opinion is that of the majority.
Also, Ive researched her and she has many good things about her, she is famous for saying such things as "We could never do great things, but only small things with great love."

(Also, your sources comes from an Anti-Catholic Hindu Nationalists and Atheist Propagandists) [I actually read both the literature in support and in opposition to her and you and I have to admit that the literature in support of her has won]

He hasn't been.
Read more carefully. You're hopefully just reading the posts too quickly.
Also, your arguments sound a lot like a commercial I saw a long while ago on the history channel. It was describing somebody. They were a vegetarian. They liked animals. They seemed like a nice person, based on those things.
Then you found out about the other things, and even though the nice things were nice, the bad things were horrible. Same idea but smaller scale with teresa.

[Asuiop]

Oh so thats why your a communist/socialist nation

The meaning of the word "libertarian" in the US has been really badly bastardized, so that's probably it.

Explain?

[The Islands of Metanoia]

Then just stop saying that your opinion is that of the majority.
Also, Ive researched her and she has many good things about her, she is famous for saying such things as "We could never do great things, but only small things with great love."

(Also, your sources comes from an Anti-Catholic Hindu Nationalists and Atheist Propagandists) [I actually read both the literature in support and in opposition to her and you and I have to admit that the literature in support of her has won]

The huffington post isn't Anti Catholic
Neither is Wikipedia.
I never said I was the majority.

I never said I was the majority.

A shiny award dosent mean anything to me.
What actually happened and what the majority believe are usually two different things.

[Dolgia]

Says the religious person who can only back up this story with a book. I wrote a book once. It was about a magical talking car. Does that make it true?
Tell me, has God ever come down from the heavens showed himself to you? Has he ever spoken to you? Tell me!

Nope, but he has done little things for me. I notice that I'm amazingly lucky when I am good and much less lucky when I'm bad.

Thats called karma. Its a natural force, God or no God

[New Libertarian States]

The meaning of the word "libertarian" in the US has been really badly bastardized, so that's probably it.

Explain?

People (especially in my areas) equate libertarian to Socialist/Communist people.
As well as most of Red States.

[Arumdaum]

Ad Hominem anybody?
Grilled to the peak of logical fallacy.

He called me a bullshit spewer and you didn't raise an Ad Hominem.
Imbalanced anybody?
Propagandist to the core.

Do you even know what ad hominem is? It's where you dismiss other people's ideas due to their background, which is irrelevant to the argument at hand. You dismissed his argument under the assumption that he/she was an uneducated gangster who was raised in the slums without actually trying to respond to their argument.

[Asuiop]

Nope, but he has done little things for me. I notice that I'm amazingly lucky when I am good and much less lucky when I'm bad.

Thats called karma. Its a natural force, God or no God

I don't believe in karma.

[New Libertarian States]

The huffington post isn't Anti Catholic
Neither is Wikipedia.
I never said I was the majority.

I never said I was the majority.

A shiny award dosent mean anything to me.
What actually happened and what the majority believe are usually two different things.

Where the flying fuck monkeys does that say "Im the majority"
It says that the people who question are the MINORITY, the spoon fed are the MAJORITY.

[Arumdaum]

The meaning of the word "libertarian" in the US has been really badly bastardized, so that's probably it.

Explain?

"The use of the word "libertarian" to describe a set of political positions can be tracked to the French cognate, libertaire, which was coined in 1857 by French anarchist Joseph Déjacque who used the term to distinguish his libertarian communist approach from the mutualism advocated by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon.[28] Hence libertarian has been used by some as a synonym for anarchism since the 1890s.[29] The term libertarianism is commonly considered to be a synonym of anarchism in countries other than the US.[16] Albert Jay Nock and H. L. Mencken were the first prominent figures in the US to call themselves "libertarians," which they used to signify their allegiance to individualism and limited government, feeling that Franklin D. Roosevelt had co-opted the word "liberal" for his New Deal policies, which they opposed.[30]

In the United States, where the meaning of liberalism has parted significantly from classical liberalism, classical liberalism has largely been renamed libertarianism and is associated with "economically conservative" and "socially liberal" political views (going by the common meanings of "conservative" and "liberal" in the United States),[21][22] along with a foreign policy of non-interventionism.[23][24]"

[The Islands of Metanoia]

Then just stop saying that your opinion is that of the majority.
Also, Ive researched her and she has many good things about her, she is famous for saying such things as "We could never do great things, but only small things with great love."

(Also, your sources comes from an Anti-Catholic Hindu Nationalists and Atheist Propagandists) [I actually read both the literature in support and in opposition to her and you and I have to admit that the literature in support of her has won]

He hasn't been.
Read more carefully. You're hopefully just reading the posts too quickly.
Also, your arguments sound a lot like a commercial I saw a long while ago on the history channel. It was describing somebody. They were a vegetarian. They liked animals. They seemed like a nice person, based on those things.
Then you found out about the other things, and even though the nice things were nice, the bad things were horrible. Same idea but smaller scale with teresa.

So why did you stop replying to me in our Religion and Arts thread? Did you get tired inventing lies about me?

[Asuiop]

Explain?

People (especially in my areas) equate libertarian to Socialist/Communist people.
As well as most of Red States.

Oh yeah, well, at least the US has Libertarian-Socialists

[Dolgia]

Thats called karma. Its a natural force, God or no God

I don't believe in karma.

Well thats better than not believing in science. Oh wait.

[Arumdaum]

He hasn't been.
Read more carefully. You're hopefully just reading the posts too quickly.
Also, your arguments sound a lot like a commercial I saw a long while ago on the history channel. It was describing somebody. They were a vegetarian. They liked animals. They seemed like a nice person, based on those things.
Then you found out about the other things, and even though the nice things were nice, the bad things were horrible. Same idea but smaller scale with teresa.

So why did you stop replying to me in our Religion and Arts thread? Did you get tired inventing lies about me?

And this is relevant how?..

[Umikai]

But it's not always prayer for months followed by a slow recovery. How many times have things just instantly been cured outside of a religious context?

Provide examples from within a religious context. Note that I will not reply for several hours, so take your time.

Someone walks up to one of the priests at our church and asks for prayer because of some extreme pain in his back, as the priest lays a hand on the guy, as if provoked by God, the priest thinks "he's already healed- don't say anything." And he was healed, right then. It was pretty awkward for the priest because he had to just not say anything then "amen," when the healed individual and his dad were probably expecting a more substantial prayer.

[Arumdaum]

Thats called karma. Its a natural force, God or no God

I don't believe in karma.

Is the existence of the Abrahamic god somehow more logical?

[Asuiop]

Explain?

"The use of the word "libertarian" to describe a set of political positions can be tracked to the French cognate, libertaire, which was coined in 1857 by French anarchist Joseph Déjacque who used the term to distinguish his libertarian communist approach from the mutualism advocated by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon.[28] Hence libertarian has been used by some as a synonym for anarchism since the 1890s.[29] The term libertarianism is commonly considered to be a synonym of anarchism in countries other than the US.[16] Albert Jay Nock and H. L. Mencken were the first prominent figures in the US to call themselves "libertarians," which they used to signify their allegiance to individualism and limited government, feeling that Franklin D. Roosevelt had co-opted the word "liberal" for his New Deal policies, which they opposed.[30]

In the United States, where the meaning of liberalism has parted significantly from classical liberalism, classical liberalism has largely been renamed libertarianism and is associated with "economically conservative" and "socially liberal" political views (going by the common meanings of "conservative" and "liberal" in the United States),[21][22] along with a foreign policy of non-interventionism.[23][24]"

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[Dolgia]

"Science changes its views based on whats observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."

[Al Horeya]

I saw someone post "everything in the Universe has a cause." I just wanted to let anyone who believes that know:
that is a false statement. There is no "cause," in the classical sense, for virtual particles (for example). These particles simply come into existence and then go. This means that the "First Mover," as Aquinas liked to call him, could easily have been a causeless particle. The chances of that, vs the chance that a deity exists, are gargantuan.
In addition to this, since the vast majority of gods neither have a consistent nature nor even a valid definition (and the few who do are not so much "gods" as they are "advanced aliens" at best), the entire question is basically rendered inert: before I say "There is no God!" or "Prove to me that God exists," I should begin with "What do you mean by God?" It is not often that someone can come up with a consistent definition of the word.

[New Libertarian States]

He hasn't been.
Read more carefully. You're hopefully just reading the posts too quickly.
Also, your arguments sound a lot like a commercial I saw a long while ago on the history channel. It was describing somebody. They were a vegetarian. They liked animals. They seemed like a nice person, based on those things.
Then you found out about the other things, and even though the nice things were nice, the bad things were horrible. Same idea but smaller scale with teresa.

So why did you stop replying to me in our Religion and Arts thread? Did you get tired inventing lies about me?

Straw men, get your strawmen here!

[New Libertarian States]

Provide examples from within a religious context. Note that I will not reply for several hours, so take your time.

Someone walks up to one of the priests at our church and asks for prayer because of some extreme pain in his back, as the priest lays a hand on the guy, as if provoked by God, the priest thinks "he's already healed- don't say anything." And he was healed, right then. It was pretty awkward for the priest because he had to just not say anything then "amen," when the healed individual and his dad were probably expecting a more substantial prayer.

And this was an actual case, or are you making it up?

[The Islands of Metanoia]

I never said I was the majority.

Where the flying fuck monkeys does that say "Im the majority"
It says that the people who question are the MINORITY, the spoon fed are the MAJORITY.

You said that the majority is wrong and that the minority is right. Tell me again how the opinions of one person can be more weighty than the opinions of the many? Can you tell me again how smart you are vs the ENTIRE Nobel Committee Judge Panel who carefully screen people for these kind of things?

[Asuiop]

I don't believe in karma.

And the existence of the Abrahamic god is somehow more logical

oh wait

Logic is in the Eye of the Beholder

[Umikai]

Explain the difference? I'm not trying to be spiteful with that, honestly I'm just wondering what you mean.

Lets say I say "2+2=4". You can deny and deny it, but it's true.
Same applies for any theory.
People can deny and deny it, but if its right, it's right.

That's not what a theory or a model is, both of their definitions imply a lack of accuracy or imprecision, or a lack of proof. But you're saying you still think they're true?

[Arumdaum]

The huffington post isn't Anti Catholic
Neither is Wikipedia.
I never said I was the majority.

I never said I was the majority.

A shiny award dosent mean anything to me.
What actually happened and what the majority believe are usually two different things.

Did you actually read what you quoted?..