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Who do you think the Democrats should nominate for president in 2016?

Hillary Rodham Clinton
19
37%
Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.
6
12%
Martin Joseph O'Malley
1
2%
Andrew Mark Cuomo
1
2%
Kirsten Elizabeth Rutnik Gillibrand
1
2%
Deval Laurdine Patrick
0
No votes
Mark Robert Warner
1
2%
Elizabeth Ann Warren
5
10%
Other
11
22%
Undecided
6
12%
 
Total votes : 51

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Ostroeuropa
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:35 am

Kamchastika wrote:Someone who isn't a hypocrite and actually knows what they're doing.


Woh now, we can't have everything. You gotta choose man.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:38 am

Barack Hussein Obama!
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Postby Divair » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:38 am

DrakoBlaria wrote:Barack Hussein Obama!

Has already served two terms.

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Postby Agritum » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:39 am

Divair wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:Barack Hussein Obama!

Has already served two terms.

....are we already in 2016?

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Postby Wickedly evil people » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:40 am

anybody from Chicago could carry on the thuggish policies of the current administration, Biden is too stupid and Old, Clinton is boring.


I suggest blagojevich, may as well have a known criminal
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:40 am

Divair wrote:
DrakoBlaria wrote:Barack Hussein Obama!

Has already served two terms.


Well, see, the republicans fucked up by insisting over and over again he was born in the wrong country and is an illegal president. (Which is obviously not true.)
But it does seem to imply that if we snuck him in for a third term of office they'd just do the same shit all over again and nothing would actually happen.
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Postby Agritum » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:41 am

Wickedly evil people wrote:anybody from Chicago could carry on the thuggish policies of the current administration, Biden is too stupid and Old, Clinton is boring.


I suggest blagojevich, may as well have a known criminal

Jailed people can't candidate themselves, AFAIK.

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Postby Divair » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:41 am

Agritum wrote:
Divair wrote:Has already served two terms.

....are we already in 2016?

Will have served.

If you want to nitpick ;)

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Postby Kanery » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:43 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Divair wrote:What's wrong with giving Bill influence if it means the GOP gets smashed?


He used the united states army to bomb a medicine factory for one of two reasons:

To divert press attention away from his sex scandal
To let off some steam stemming from the sex scandal


One of his closest "friends" has said of the man that there is absolutely nothing you could say that bill would not do.
That's a pretty fucking damning statement, especially as he appears to have meant it.
When people say "I wouldn't put anything past him." they usually mean it in a joking way. They would still be shocked or appalled to find out someone did something like say, rape a kid.
He hired thugs to intimidate someone giving evidence against him including threatening the lives of children to get someone to shut up and commit perjury under oath.
He's compelled several people to commit perjury.

Plenty of shit. It also says a great deal about Hillary's judgement that she married the asshole.

At a certain point the "Lesser" evil of a completely sociopathic democrat becomes unjustifiable if we want to continue to take ourselves seriously.
Fuck bill clinton.

Hell, theres so much about him from all his years in office and I can fill an entire thread with JUST the shit surrounding Lewinski.
Thats ignoring the fact he might be a rapist and a murderer. (He is almost definately a rapist.)

http://justnotsaid.blogspot.co.uk/2010/ ... inton.html
Decent argument for bill being a sociopath. (Something that is gaining more and more ground the more he opens his mouth and the more people stop and think "Hold on a fucking moment, just because the guy is a democrat doesn't mean he gets a free pass.")

Is this a Hitchens fan I smell??
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:45 am

Wickedly evil people wrote:anybody from Chicago could carry on the thuggish policies of the current administration, Biden is too stupid and Old, Clinton is boring.


I suggest blagojevich, may as well have a known criminal

Clinton is boring, but her main flaw is being a completely useless public servant.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:47 am

Kanery wrote:Is this a Hitchens fan I smell??


I do love Hitch.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:49 am

Obama again. With Bill Clinton as VP.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:54 am

Ifreann wrote:Obama again. With Bill Clinton as VP.


Would have worked better if angel was still your avatar ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0kJ2ZSVR-Q
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Khadgar » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:56 am

Jimmy Carter with the ghost of Andrew Jackson as VP/Enforcer.

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Postby Lemanrussland » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:09 am

Probably Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:40 am

There's been some interesting speculation, including some names I like.

For those unfamiliar, I am in Iowa and active in the IDP. That means I'll be getting a front row seat to the opening of the campaigns in about a year and a half. I'll have a pretty good idea then.

I will say that I will strongly oppose Clinton, and adamantly will not vote for here. I will most likely also be strongly opposing anyone with close ties to the current occupant and war criminal-in-chief, like Biden.

I expect to be a delegate to the county and state conventions, and may go for national.

And what happens in November 2016 will depend on who gets nominated by various parties. Hope I won't have to vote Green again...
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:42 am

Ifreann wrote:Obama again. With Bill Clinton as VP.

Hillary Rodham-Clinton, with Michelle O'Bama as VP.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:48 am

Risottia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Obama again. With Bill Clinton as VP.

Hillary Rodham-Clinton, with Michelle O'Bama as VP.

There's one, have we seen Michelle's birth certificate?
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Postby Nazis in Space » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:03 am

Me.

  • I put my country's interest before anyone else's. Nationalist
  • I'm from, and support the working classes. Socialist
  • I've a history of belligerence in foreign politics. Sounds perfectly right for America
  • I've a serious name recognition advantage
  • I love animals (No, not that way. Go away bronies), and support protecting the environment
  • I know how to stick it to the Russians
  • The 'Naturally Born Citizen' requirement is irrelevant as per the Obama precedent

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Postby Agritum » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:14 am

Nazis in Space wrote:Me.

  • I put my country's interest before anyone else's. Nationalist
  • I'm from, and support the working classes. Socialist
  • I've a history of belligerence in foreign politics. Sounds perfectly right for America
  • I've a serious name recognition advantage
  • I love animals (No, not that way. Go away bronies), and support protecting the environment
  • I know how to stick it to the Russians
  • The 'Naturally Born Citizen' requirement is irrelevant as per the Obama precedent

....you know how to stick it to the Russians? Adolf, I know you have perfect credentials for the job, but please, be honest on your faults.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:33 am

Bill Clinton because he did a good job last time.
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Postby Algonquin Ascendancy » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:39 am

Nigerian Kenya wrote:Who should the nominee be? I am personally leaning towards Clinton or Biden, but mainly due to name recognition, I don't know any of the other potential candidates really at all.

M. William Morin.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:40 am

Agritum wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:Me.

  • I put my country's interest before anyone else's. Nationalist
  • I'm from, and support the working classes. Socialist
  • I've a history of belligerence in foreign politics. Sounds perfectly right for America
  • I've a serious name recognition advantage
  • I love animals (No, not that way. Go away bronies), and support protecting the environment
  • I know how to stick it to the Russians
  • The 'Naturally Born Citizen' requirement is irrelevant as per the Obama precedent

....you know how to stick it to the Russians? Adolf, I know you have perfect credentials for the job, but please, be honest on your faults.
I admit it wasn't a complete success. But there's no denying the impressive killcount.

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Postby Mkuki » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:43 am

Nazis in Space wrote:
Agritum wrote:....you know how to stick it to the Russians? Adolf, I know you have perfect credentials for the job, but please, be honest on your faults.
I admit it wasn't a complete success. But there's no denying the impressive killcount.

Your K/D wasn't that great, though.
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:44 am

Gabe Newell.
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