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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:40 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:Should the French partisans have served time for their crimes?


No, but the French Partisans and Nelson Mandela are different.

Do tell how.

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Postby 4years » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:43 am

Divair wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
No, but the French Partisans and Nelson Mandela are different.

Do tell how.


How much do you want to bet the answer is a version of "Becuase I wike the partisans" or "aptheriod South Africa be good" or some combination therofe?
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:51 am

Divair wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
No, but the French Partisans and Nelson Mandela are different.

Do tell how.


Nelson Mandela and the African National Congress organized the murders of innocent civilians and farmers who had nothing to do with the Apartheid Government.

I've never heard of the French Resistance doing things like that during World War 2.

4years wrote:
Divair wrote:Do tell how.


How much do you want to bet the answer is a version of "Becuase I wike the partisans" or "aptheriod South Africa be good" or some combination therofe?


You might want to correct your spelling errors.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:52 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:Nelson Mandela and the African National Congress organized the murders of innocent civilians and farmers who had nothing to do with the Apartheid Government.

Source pls.

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Postby 4years » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:54 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:Do tell how.


1. Nelson Mandela and the African National Congress organized the murders of innocent civilians and farmers who had nothing to do with the Apartheid Government.

I've never heard of the French Resistance doing things like that during World War 2.

4years wrote:
How much do you want to bet the answer is a version of "Becuase I wike the partisans" or "aptheriod South Africa be good" or some combination therofe?


2. You might want to correct your spelling errors.


1. Sauce?
2. The spelling errors in that post were deliberate to enhance the hilarity of the pathetic answers suggested.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:56 am

Divair wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:Nelson Mandela and the African National Congress organized the murders of innocent civilians and farmers who had nothing to do with the Apartheid Government.

Source pls.


The Church Street Bombing killed civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street_bombing

From the Article:

he attack consisted of a car bomb set off outside the Nedbank Square building on Church Street at 4:30pm on a Friday. The target was South African Air Force (SAAF) headquarters, but as the bomb was set to go off at the height of rush hour, those killed and wounded included civilians.

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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:58 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:Source pls.


The Church Street Bombing killed civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street_bombing

From the Article:

he attack consisted of a car bomb set off outside the Nedbank Square building on Church Street at 4:30pm on a Friday. The target was South African Air Force (SAAF) headquarters, but as the bomb was set to go off at the height of rush hour, those killed and wounded included civilians.

Ignoring the part where it was a retaliation for something similar, where exactly does it say Mandela was at fault here?

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:58 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Densaner wrote:None. Certainly no one in a position of power. The only UK politician who is a decent public speaker is Nigel Farage and he's in the EU Parliament.


Oh yeah, I forgot about Nigel. He is brilliant.


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Postby Wind in the Willows » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:03 am

Divair wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
The Church Street Bombing killed civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street_bombing

From the Article:


Ignoring the part where it was a retaliation for something similar, where exactly does it say Mandela was at fault here?


You mean this part? I'd like proof that the event they were responding to actually happened, and if you can find it, I will admit that you win the debate.

The ANC's submission said that the bombing was in response to a South African cross-border raid into Lesotho in December 1982 which killed 42 ANC supporters and civilians.

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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:04 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:Ignoring the part where it was a retaliation for something similar, where exactly does it say Mandela was at fault here?


You mean this part? I'd like proof that the event they were responding to actually happened, and if you can find it, I will admit that you win the debate.

The ANC's submission said that the bombing was in response to a South African cross-border raid into Lesotho in December 1982 which killed 42 ANC supporters and civilians.

I'm sorry, did you not read the entire sentence?

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Postby Wind in the Willows » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:06 am

Divair wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
You mean this part? I'd like proof that the event they were responding to actually happened, and if you can find it, I will admit that you win the debate.


I'm sorry, did you not read the entire sentence?


Yeah, I just found out that the event actually happened. You win.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:06 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:I'm sorry, did you not read the entire sentence?


Yeah, I just found it on the Internet. You win.

Cool stuff.

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Postby Forsakia » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:30 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:Ignoring the part where it was a retaliation for something similar, where exactly does it say Mandela was at fault here?


You mean this part? I'd like proof that the event they were responding to actually happened, and if you can find it, I will admit that you win the debate.

The ANC's submission said that the bombing was in response to a South African cross-border raid into Lesotho in December 1982 which killed 42 ANC supporters and civilians.


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Postby Brocwika » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:59 am

Jesse Ventura

inb4 "He's crazy!"

Yeah his conspiracy theories are looney, but he's all for civil rights and hates both the GOP and Democrats and corporate corruption.

So yeah, Jesse Ventura.
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Postby Arglorand » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:56 am

The current Prime Minister of Lithuania, Algirdas Butkevičius, is someone that I rather approve of. He has so far done very well at keeping a polarized and volatile coalition together.

I also approve of the entirety of the SNP (Scotland), NDP (Canada), Syriza (Greece) parties most of the time.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:58 am

Brocwika wrote:Jesse Ventura

inb4 "He's crazy!"

Yeah his conspiracy theories are looney, but he's all for civil rights and hates both the GOP and Democrats and corporate corruption.

So yeah, Jesse Ventura.

He's a dumbass.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:03 am

Tech N9ne wrote:TECH N9NE

Aren't you clever.
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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:03 am

Foreign: Putin, and Obama to some extent (like him alot more than most other US presidents post cold war)

and native:mmm.... lets go J Howard.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:06 am

Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:Foreign: Putin, and Obama to some extent (like him alot more than most other US presidents post cold war)

and native:mmm.... lets go J Howard.

What's so great about them?
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:06 am

Tech N9ne wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Aren't you clever.



Blood thirst
In the church now
The earth's
The worst
Clutch your purse
When we lurk
Cause we cursed
From work
Trying to
Party like a mother fucker
Broke as a joke
Don't hire me
But you arrest me
When I'm selling my dope
So who's the Einstein
In N9NE N9NE
TECH N9NE
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In my prime rhyme time
I'm mixing
One fifty-one
With Malibu rum
And pineapple juice
Among all my angels
And wicked ones

That's "Let it Be" level musical beauty.
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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:16 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:Foreign: Putin, and Obama to some extent (like him alot more than most other US presidents post cold war)

and native:mmm.... lets go J Howard.

What's so great about them?


Putins is bringing Russia back to its glory (half way there) Obama is taking control of the stupid US citzens and their guns to prevent even more highschool massacres (or kindergarden ones, and movie ones... and etc)

J Howard was a good Aussie politican cause it didn't let imigrants through willy nilly but was actually careful about it.
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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:19 am

Tech N9ne wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Aren't you clever.



Blood thirst
In the church now
The earth's
The worst
Clutch your purse
When we lurk
Cause we cursed
From work
Trying to
Party like a mother fucker
Broke as a joke
Don't hire me
But you arrest me
When I'm selling my dope
So who's the Einstein
In N9NE N9NE
TECH N9NE
I'm crime mind
In my prime rhyme time
I'm mixing
One fifty-one
With Malibu rum
And pineapple juice
Among all my angels
And wicked ones


that was so bad i feel i need to hit my head against something...
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Postby Cameroi » Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:12 am

the only name that comes to mind, well almost the only, that i have never disaproved of that i know of, would have to be dennis kussenich.

there are a buch of other i might, but i just don't feel that i know enough about to feel positive.
well truth to be honest, i don't believe we can ever know enough about anyone to do so, let alone anyone all we know about is all we ever know about anyone being in the public eye, from their being in the public eye.

i would nominate those two women who ran on the green ticket last time.

i would have nominated finestine until recently, but not now. barbara boxer and heather fargo might be still ok.

and that supposedly environmnent guy who had been vice president, i forget his name. but you know, environment, as long as its just blaming the power compnanies, that's only half there, as long as people are unwilling to give up their cars, they're being hypocites about environment.

but environment is the big issue. environment and forighn and domestic policiy. human rightrs, sapeint rights, sentient rights, and environment. economics and ideology are just excuses for trying to screw everything else for one's own personal greed. wtihout environemt you don't breathe and if you don't breathe, you don't live. so environment is everything.

and then after environment its rights, without that, government is more harm then good. and rights doesn't mean economics and greed, it doens't mean screwing everything and everyone else.
it means being left the hell alone to think your own thoughts, dream your own dreams and believe your own beliefs, without having to go hungry of die of hy0pothermia to do so.

so politicians. names. people. they come and go. issues are what always matter. not the faces. so there just aren't that many the i know of that i would endorse as approving.
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Postby Quintium » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:21 am

4years wrote:That is not the definition of terrorism:
Title 22 of the U.S. Code, Section 2656f(d) defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.” Forming an armed movement to sabotage a government does not constitute violence against noncombatants.


Now, I know the American government is really imperialist, but what I didn't know was that they invaded South Africa and placed it under their sovereignty.
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