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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:13 am

Living Freedom Land wrote:My personal opinion is that adultery is wrong, at least in most instances. However, it would be a terrible overreach of power to allow the government any say over our sexual lives. Adultery ought to be completely legal with no legal repercussions.

100% this.
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Postby Bolden » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:28 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Here are two questions for you: is adultery fundamentally immoral and what consequences should there be for it, if any?


Yes, it's immoral to me and it Hurts...Fundamentally immoral if the cheater causes a substantial loss of money between the two of them that causes a problem to the victim (For example, the cheater has a "secret" porn addiction or strip club addiction that causes a severe financial loss to the victim).

I feel that one should divorce if their husband / wife has sex with someone else. I feel like divorce should not be a "last resort" as many others who have similar beliefs as me do. It'll just make them worse - in my opinion and from my personal experience + If you do divorce them without giving them some "second chance", it'll make them treat whoever else they'll fall in "love" with later on better, they'll be less likely to screw up (in my opinion). Along with that, giving them a crappy second chance will cause a lot of stress on the victim (at least it would to me) - every kiss they'll give you will just remind you of what they did (at least to Me it would). Overall, it (may..) change them if you divorce them when they do cheat on you in the way I describe, instead of all these second chances that'll most likely turn into third and fourth ones.

I do believe the government should have absolutely nothing to do with marriage and divorce unless the couple wants the government to be involved in it (like joint taxes or whatever it is that the marriage license claims to do, or like the example I stated above with the financial loss).
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Postby Ovisterra » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:41 am

I think it's a dick move and you really, really shouldn't do it, but it certainly shouldn't be illegal.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:43 am

Estovakiva wrote:
Ryccia wrote:Its wrong, and its a crime in Ryccia. If you want to have another woman, then divorvce and that would do it.

You implying only males do adultery?

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Postby The Sector Union » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:00 am

It's wrong and should be a punishable offense.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:01 am

The Sector Union wrote:It's wrong and should be a punishable offense.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:02 am

Morally? Yes. Legally? No. Adultery should remain a civil matter between the parties involved and not enter the realm of law.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:03 am

The Sector Union wrote:It's wrong and should be a punishable offense.

Here we go again...
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Postby The Sector Union » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:It's wrong and should be a punishable offense.

Why?


Because it causes to many problems in society. We need to society to remain perfect and adultery is a huge problem. In fact, I believe all forms of marriage should be banned in the first place, but if we're gonna have marriage, Ban Adultery. Regulate the punishments.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:16 am

The Sector Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why?


Because it causes to many problems in society. We need to society to remain perfect and adultery is a huge problem. In fact, I believe all forms of marriage should be banned in the first place, but if we're gonna have marriage, Ban Adultery. Regulate the punishments.

I think you should know, humans and therefore society, isn't perfect.
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Postby The Sector Union » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:17 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:
Because it causes to many problems in society. We need to society to remain perfect and adultery is a huge problem. In fact, I believe all forms of marriage should be banned in the first place, but if we're gonna have marriage, Ban Adultery. Regulate the punishments.

I think you should know, humans and therefore society, isn't perfect.

Obviously, but banning adultery would help to bring a more progressive society.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:18 am

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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I think you should know, humans and therefore society, isn't perfect.

Obviously, but banning adultery would help to bring a more progressive society.

I wouldn't call Saudi Arabia especially progressive as a society.
The exact opposite, in fact.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:19 am

The Sector Union wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I think you should know, humans and therefore society, isn't perfect.

Obviously, but banning adultery would help to bring a more progressive society.

No it wouldn't. Humans are gonna be humans and crave sex no matter what.
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Postby The Sector Union » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:24 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:Obviously, but banning adultery would help to bring a more progressive society.

I wouldn't call Saudi Arabia especially progressive as a society.
The exact opposite, in fact.

Saudi Arabia?
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Postby Algonquin Ascendancy » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:26 am

Estovakiva wrote:
Ryccia wrote:Its wrong, and its a crime in Ryccia. If you want to have another woman, then divorvce and that would do it.

You implying only males do adultery?

You implying that only men sleep with women?
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:28 am

The Sector Union wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I wouldn't call Saudi Arabia especially progressive as a society.
The exact opposite, in fact.

Saudi Arabia?
Look, I am not christian and trying to get a theocracy going. It has nothing to do with religion at all.

Wut? :eyebrow:
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Postby Asuiop » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:28 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:Obviously, but banning adultery would help to bring a more progressive society.

No it wouldn't. Humans are gonna be humans and crave sex no matter what.

Then they can have non-adulterous sex
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:28 am

Algonquin Ascendancy wrote:
Estovakiva wrote:You implying only males do adultery?

You implying that only men sleep with women?

Image

I like this thread.
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Postby Asuiop » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:30 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:Saudi Arabia?
Look, I am not christian and trying to get a theocracy going. It has nothing to do with religion at all.

Wut? :eyebrow:

He thinks that he was implying that banning adultery would be imposing on freedom of religion by bringing sin and stuff into the debate and therefore turning America into a theocracy like Saudi Arabia. What he was really saying was that Saudi Arabia also has laws against adultery, but isn't socially progressive.
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Postby The Sector Union » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:30 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:Saudi Arabia?
Look, I am not christian and trying to get a theocracy going. It has nothing to do with religion at all.

Wut? :eyebrow:


You brought up Saudi Arabia which implying my support for the government getting into adultery is somewhat a religious law, which is not.
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Postby Algonquin Ascendancy » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:32 am

Galloism wrote:
Algonquin Ascendancy wrote:You implying that only men sleep with women?

Image

I like this thread.

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Postby Asuiop » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:33 am

Algonquin Ascendancy wrote:
Galloism wrote:Image

I like this thread.

*shrugs*
The times I've "cheated" on my partner it's been with a woman...

SEND HIM TO JAI- wait, you do live in Saudi Arabia or Vatican City correct?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:33 am

Algonquin Ascendancy wrote:*shrugs*
The times I've "cheated" on my partner it's been with a woman...

That's because you've never been exposed to me in person.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:37 am

The Sector Union wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Wut? :eyebrow:


You brought up Saudi Arabia which implying my support for the government getting into adultery is somewhat a religious law, which is not.

I wasn't the one who brought up Saudi Arabia? :eyebrow:

The idea of punishment for adultery stems from religious law.
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Postby Algonquin Ascendancy » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:37 am

Galloism wrote:
Algonquin Ascendancy wrote:*shrugs*
The times I've "cheated" on my partner it's been with a woman...

That's because you've never been exposed to me in person.

Oui, you keep telling yourself that.
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