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Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:56 am**

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Zottistan wrote:I don't.

I really don't either.
I don't like sharing, or being shared.

It hurts. And in my experience it gets very messy.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:56 am**

Zottistan wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:I really don't either.
I don't like sharing, or being shared.

It hurts. And in my experience it gets very messy.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the MASSIVE POTENTIAL for complications.
It's more trouble than its worth, really.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:57 am**

Ashmoria wrote:
Terrordome wrote:Government and the law should stay out of it it should be completely legal. The only legal effect adultery should have is as a grounds for divorce.

But if you commit adultery without the knowledge/consent of your spouse then you show yourself to be untrustworthy and capable of breaking a solemn oath to a loved one. So even if you should not be prosecuted, I can still think you are a shitty human being.

you shouldnt need grounds for divorce. and you don't in most states of the united states. not wanting to be married any more is enough.

You are right, but in the case of divorce, I believe it should negatively effect the settlement for you if you cheated.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:58 am**

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Zottistan wrote:It hurts. And in my experience it gets very messy.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the MASSIVE POTENTIAL for complications.
It's more trouble than its worth, really.

Still, each to their own. Far be it from me to force my romantic preferences on others.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:00 am**

I think with me it's the same with abortion; I'm OK with it, I just wouldn't want it happening to me. I didn't used to think that way, until it hit close to home.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:09 am**

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:I've heard quite a lot of debate over what should be done about adultery.

Nothing.

Some say it should be a crime punishable by imprisonment,

Yeah, but it's not like the ramblings of fundies should be of any consequence.

others say it's equivalent to breaking a legal contract.

Well, it's not like matrimony is a business contract. Not in all jurisdictions anyway.

Here are two questions for you: is adultery fundamentally immoral

Yes.

and what consequences should there be for it, if any?

None, except if the other spouse raises a divorce case.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:36 am**

Only if the individual affected by the adultery considers it to be wrong.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:50 am**

Meh. Having been the victim of a cheating spouse, it really ain't that bad. Just gives you pretty much free rein to get your cheat on and not feel bad about it.

This smells very heavily of a research thread, which would be a no-no.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:57 am**

Always ask your partner permission, if it's no, and you do it anyway it's adultery.
It's not inherently wrong, as long as it's consesual.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:50 am**

It's wrong, but there should be no punishment.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:55 am**

If you are in a polyamorous relationship or are permitted to in that particular incident, then no, there is nothing wrong with it at all.If you are expected to remain monogamous, then yes, it is wrong. However, it would be a greater moral travesty to outlaw it.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:59 am**

Adultery is wrong, as it feels disloyal to your partner, and if there was a problem which made them turn to adultery, I would ask them to go to counselling but not force them, and if it still didn't work, leave the relationship entirely.

It's not a grey area - either a relationship works or doesn't, so I was taught [at least by the people I know].

This is not discussing the issue from a government perspective, only social mores and etiquettes perspective.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:59 am**

Outside of divorce proceedings, I can't see it being the government's business if people are cheating or not.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:02 am**

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:I've heard quite a lot of debate over what should be done about adultery. Some say it should be a crime punishable by imprisonment, others say it's equivalent to breaking a legal contract. Some say the government should just keep out of it.

Here are two questions for you: is adultery fundamentally immoral and what consequences should there be for it, if any? In my opinion, adultery is wrong in most cases but it should not be a criminal offense. Instead, judges should consider the background behind the extramarital affair being dealt with. For example, did the other spouse have one as well? Did they do it because they were being abused? Was it an open marriage? The result should be more favorable to the victim of the marriage rather than the judge arbiting based on logistical factors.

What say you, NSG?

What about adultery with your dog or cat?

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:03 am**

No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:06 am**

Yes it's wrong. But as long as something is consensual and between people who are mature enough to be able to understand the meaning of consent, then no law should forbid it.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:10 am**

The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:11 am**

Ryccia wrote:Its wrong, and its a crime in Ryccia. If you want to have another woman, then divorvce and that would do it.

You implying only males do adultery?

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:13 am**

I wouldn't make it punishable by law (but permit it to be an argument for divorce), but I can say that adultery is surely a quite ugly break of trust.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:13 am**

The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Why are you trying to make my brain cry with this nonsense?

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:14 am**

Ifreann wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Why are you trying to make my brain cry with this nonsense?

It only makes him stronger.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:15 am**

On some level.

Since marriage is indeed a contract under law, then adultery would logically be a breach of contract issue and should be legislated against.
But I view marriage as an antiquated ceremony of dubious relevance, so I'm actually opposed to legislation against it.

It's something three people should be able to work out as adults.
I put that in italics because of the absolute irony that many people really can't be adult about such an issue.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:23 am**

Ifreann wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Why are you trying to make my brain cry with this nonsense?

Your brain has tear ducts? COOL.

Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

Sigged

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:28 am**

Sorry for my post on this thread.

A simple "No, I don't think it's wrong." Should have sufficed.

Posted: **Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:09 am**

It is not "fundamentally immoral".

However, if one does decide to pledge their sexual/romantic loyalty to one person, then yes, it is at the very least jerkish to break that promise.

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