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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:51 am

Divair wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Actually, they claim SA to be in the "polarization" phase.
That is, extremely early warning signs.

Also, the report seems to be slightly biased here and there... why aren't Kurds in Turkey even nominated, at least as in the "polarization" stage? Hmmm...

It claims Russia and Mexico are in the same stage too.

wtf


Seriously?

Russia might have ethnic problems, but it cannot be that bad...as for mexico..they never struck a chord of "potential ethnic genocide".
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Postby Magnus Portucale » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:56 am

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Ainin wrote:According to Zuma

And then I stopped reading. Zuma can piss off.


He won't loose his power so it's better you move out S.Africa or you have to live under his rule .
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:57 am

Magnus Portucale wrote:
Divair wrote:And then I stopped reading. Zuma can piss off.


He won't loose his power so it's better you move out S.Africa or you have to live under his rule .

I already left 15 years ago when Mandela announced he wasn't running for re-election. We knew at that point we were fucked.


But now with Agang... If Mamphela can get a coalition with the DA and win in 2014, SA will have a future.
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Postby Jehuddah » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:03 am

He is an idiot antisemite African Nazi.
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Postby Rhodesi » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:03 am

Divair wrote:
Magnus Portucale wrote:
He won't loose his power so it's better you move out S.Africa or you have to live under his rule .

I already left 15 years ago when Mandela announced he wasn't running for re-election. We knew at that point we were fucked.


But now with Agang... If Mamphela can get a coalition with the DA and win in 2014, SA will have a future.


Do the DA even have any policies. I thought that their plan for winning the election was to stick as many black people to the front of their ads and hope that somehow this will net a few additional votes. The politics of SA seems really shitty to be quite frank, with the incompetent, corrupt ANC to the left, the flip-flop train known as the DA, and of course our Neo-Nazi friends on the right the VF. Is there any decent conservative party to vote for (although of course said party would probably get about 0.5% of the vote).
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:05 am

Jehuddah wrote:He is an idiot antisemite African Nazi.


I'd don't recall Mandela striking an "anti-semitic" chord with me back when I lived in South Africa, he just never seemed the type.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:06 am

Benuty wrote:
Divair wrote:It claims Russia and Mexico are in the same stage too.

wtf


Seriously?

Russia might have ethnic problems, but it cannot be that bad...as for mexico..they never struck a chord of "potential ethnic genocide".

Yea, I'm thinking the site has a certain bias.

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Postby Jehuddah » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:06 am

Benuty wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:He is an idiot antisemite African Nazi.


I'd don't recall Mandela striking an "anti-semitic" chord with me back when I lived in South Africa, he just never seemed the type.

He turned South Africa from Israel's friend into an anti-Israel country.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:08 am

Benuty wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:He is an idiot antisemite African Nazi.


I'd don't recall Mandela striking an "anti-semitic" chord with me back when I lived in South Africa, he just never seemed the type.

There are so few Jews in South Africa, it's not even a topic of discussion. Religion in general isn't, really. It's mostly black racists trying to get back at whites and white racists trying to get back at blacks.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:08 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Benuty wrote:
I'd don't recall Mandela striking an "anti-semitic" chord with me back when I lived in South Africa, he just never seemed the type.

He turned South Africa from Israel's friend into an anti-Israel country.


I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?
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Postby Benuty » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:10 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:He turned South Africa from Israel's friend into an anti-Israel country.


I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?


There were several varied reasons for that, including a certain nuclear program.
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Postby Rhodesi » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:10 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Benuty wrote:
I'd don't recall Mandela striking an "anti-semitic" chord with me back when I lived in South Africa, he just never seemed the type.

He turned South Africa from Israel's friend into an anti-Israel country.


You've got the wrong chap. Mbeki and Zuma are far more responsible for the South African drift into the anti-Israel camp than Mandela.
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:10 am

Benuty wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?


There were several varied reasons for that, including a certain nuclear program.

Thank fuck we abandoned that. What a waste of money it was.

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Postby Jehuddah » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:11 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:He turned South Africa from Israel's friend into an anti-Israel country.


I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?

I seriously don't give a damn of whether South Africa was an apartheid or not.
I like my allies, and hate my enemies.
I would support ANY country that supports Israel, and would be against ANY country which is against Israel.
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99% Militaristic
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Postby Agritum » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:12 am

Divair wrote:
Benuty wrote:
Seriously?

Russia might have ethnic problems, but it cannot be that bad...as for mexico..they never struck a chord of "potential ethnic genocide".

Yea, I'm thinking the site has a certain bias.

Didn't "Marxist Racism" ring any bells?

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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:18 am

Agritum wrote:
Divair wrote:Yea, I'm thinking the site has a certain bias.

Didn't "Marxist Racism" ring any bells?

Indeed.

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Postby Ainin » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:18 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?

I seriously don't give a damn of whether South Africa was an apartheid or not.
I like my allies, and hate my enemies.
I would support ANY country that supports Israel, and would be against ANY country which is against Israel.

"As long as they like me, I don't care how terrible they are."

You must be fun at parties. :roll:
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Postby Divair » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:28 am

Ainin wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:I seriously don't give a damn of whether South Africa was an apartheid or not.
I like my allies, and hate my enemies.
I would support ANY country that supports Israel, and would be against ANY country which is against Israel.

"As long as they like me, I don't care how terrible they are."

You must be fun at parties. :roll:

So fun.

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Postby Vettrera » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:50 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?

I seriously don't give a damn of whether South Africa was an apartheid or not.
I like my allies, and hate my enemies.
I would support ANY country that supports Israel, and would be against ANY country which is against Israel.

:unsure: well then.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:28 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?

I seriously don't give a damn of whether South Africa was an apartheid or not.
I like my allies, and hate my enemies.
I would support ANY country that supports Israel, and would be against ANY country which is against Israel.

You know, it's people like you that provide the crap the asshole anti-Israel crowd uses to make themselves more popular.

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Postby Yorkopolis » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:58 am

Hippostania wrote:Ding dong, the witch doctor is dead soon!

I have mixed views of Mandela, though they're mostly negative. He is a murderer who ordered bombings that killed hundreds of innocent civilians, enabled the cultural genocide of Afrikaner culture and directly caused dramatic increase in crime and inflation. In January 1985, South African State President P.W. Botha offered Mandela unconditional amnesty and immidiate freedom from Robben Island if he denounced violence as a political violence. Guess what murderer Mandela did? He refused!

Still, you have to give credit that despite pretty much fucking up South Africa, he managed to avert a white genocide that would've undoubtedly occurred if someone more extremist would've been in control of ANC. Mandela managed to act in a reconciliatory way, discouraging vengeance and managing to avert a complete race war, though his successors like Zuma are majorly fucking up his legacy.

Overall, I see Mandela as a terrorist murderer that did some good things, but not enough good things to justify the dozens of dead white men, women and children whose death he caused. I hope that before he dies, he would discredit Zuma and encourage real reconciliatory actions like putting an immidiate stop to Afrikaner cultural genocide, for example by reinstating the old flag and coat of arms that had existed long before apartheid.

Okay I stopped there. Not surprised it's you out of all people who posted this.

And that while you were crying when Thatcher died and said one shouldn't dance on someone's grave because a human death is sad. Talk about double standards.
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Postby Navajo Land » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:05 am

Wow whoever was the African Nazi on this thread, sure does wish South Africa be white supremacist again. How ever fucked up.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:07 am

New Nassrau wrote:I wish that he could whip his party into shape and stamp out corruption


Bit difficult when you're dying.
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Postby Asasia » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:12 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
I wonder why that was.

Might it have something to do with Israel being at least a tacit ally of the apartheid regime?

I seriously don't give a damn of whether South Africa was an apartheid or not.
I like my allies, and hate my enemies.
I would support ANY country that supports Israel, and would be against ANY country which is against Israel.

So if North Korea, possibly the most hated country in the world was friends with Israel, you would like them in their unethical behaviors?
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