I was referring to the ridiculously short sentences for the rapists.
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by Regnum Dominae » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:35 pm

by Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:36 pm
Ifreann wrote:Regnum Dominae wrote:That's not the problem, the problem is that his sentence is much longer than the sentence of the actual rapists.
So why is it "Bringing rapists to justice: 10", as though the accused has done something good that shouldn't be punished at all? Complaining that hacking gets a higher sentence than rape, fine, go for it. Shit, go for it hard, because that's pretty messed the fuck up. But let's not act like hacking rapists makes you a hero like the goddamned Batman or something.
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by Democratic Republic of the Triumvirate » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:37 pm

by Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:37 pm

by Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:37 pm
Democratic Republic of the Triumvirate wrote:Twelve FBI agents with assault rifles to arrest a guy for hacking? What was he going to do, hit them with a keyboard?
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by Desperate Measures » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:38 pm
greed and death wrote:Desperate Measures wrote:Hackers are scary. Rapists are adorably misguided. I guess.
They both faced 10 years.
Since the hacker is facing federal charges he will be subject to federal sentencing guidelines, The rapist were facing Ohio sentencing guidelines because it was an Ohio criminal matter.

by Luveria » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:38 pm
Democratic Republic of the Triumvirate wrote:Twelve FBI agents with assault rifles to arrest a guy for hacking? What was he going to do, hit them with a keyboard?

by Vazdania » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:40 pm
St George wrote:If convicted of hacking-related charges, Deric Lostutter could get more jail time than the rapists he went after.
In April, the FBI quietly raided the home of the hacker known as KYAnonymous in connection with his role in the Steubenville rape case. Today he spoke out for the first time about the raid, his true identity, and his motivations for pursuing the Steubenville rapists, in an extensive interview with Mother Jones.
"The goal of the media interviews is to get the entire nation to say 'fuck you' to these guys," said KYAnonymous, whose real name is Deric Lostutter. He was referring to the federal agents who raided his home in Winchester, Kentucky, and carted off his computers and XBox.
Lostutter may deserve more credit than anyone for turning Steubenville into a national outrage. After a 16-year-old girl was raped by two members of the Steubenville High football team last year, he obtained and published tweets and Instagram photos in which other team members had joked about the incident and belittled the victim. He now admits to being the man behind the mask in a video posted by another hacker on the team's fan page, RollRedRoll.com, where he threatened action against the players unless they apologized to the girl. (The rapists were convicted in March.)A 26-year-old corporate cybersecurity consultant, Lostutter lives on a farm with his pit bull, Thor, and hunts turkeys, goes fishing, and rides motorcycles in his free time. He considers himself to be a patriotic American; he flies an American flag and enjoys Bud Light. He's also a rapper with the stage name Shadow, and recently released a solo album under the aegis of his own label, Nightshade Records. The name dovetails with that of his Anonymous faction, KnightSec.
Lostutter first got involved in Anonymous about a year ago, after watching the documentary We Are Legion. "This is me," he thought as he learned about the group's commitment to government accountability and transparency. "It was everything that I'd ever preached, and now there's this group of people getting off the couch and doing something about it. I wanted to be part of the movement."
He'd read about the Steubenville rape in the New York Times, but didn't get involved until receiving a message on Twitter from Michelle McKee, a friend of an Ohio blogger who'd written about the case. (You can read about her story here.) McKee gave Lostutter the players' tweets and Instagram photos, which he then decided to publicize because, as he put it, "I was always raised to stick up for people who are getting bullied."
The ensuing tornado of media coverage took him by surprise. He mostly avoided the spotlight, except for a brief interview that he gave to CNN while wearing his Guy Fawkes mask. "I was real scared," but also inspired, he told me. "There were so many people standing behind the cause that it felt like you had an army at your disposal and you could just stick up for what's right."
Yet sometimes the Steubenville army seemed to lack discipline, ignoring the letter of the law as it pursued its own brand of justice. Lostutter says he played no role in the hacking the team's fan page; he points out that another hacker, Batcat, has publicly taken the credit. Still, Lostutter knew from a tipster that the FBI was watching him, he says, and stopped tweeting a few months ago. The FBI knocked on his door just two days after he finally went back online.
At first, he thought the FBI agent at the door was with FedEx. "As I open the door to greet the driver, approximately 12 FBI SWAT team agents jumped out of the truck, screaming for me to 'Get the fuck down!' with M-16 assault rifles and full riot gear, armed, safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wrote today on his blog. "I was handcuffed and detained outside while they cleared my house."
According to the FBI's search warrant, agents were seeking evidence related to the hacking of RollRedRoll.com.
"I'd do it again," Lostutter says.
Lostutter believes that the FBI investigation was motivated by local officials in Steubenville. "They want to make an example of me, saying, 'You don't fucking come after us. Don't question us."
If convicted of hacking-related crimes, Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars—far more than the one- and two-year sentences doled out to the Steubenville rapists. Defending himself could end up costing a fortune—he's soliciting donations here. Still, he thinks getting involved was worth it. "I'd do it again," he says.
The byline of the article says it all really. Without even going into the whole 'motivated by local rape apologists and cover up officials', the fact that he could face 10 years in prison for helping bring rapists to justice is outrageous. I really do hope someone along the way actually thinks for a moment and realises that Lostutter is one of the fucking good guys.
I doubt it'll happen though. Your thoughts, nsg?

by Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:40 pm
Democratic Republic of the Triumvirate wrote:Twelve FBI agents with assault rifles to arrest a guy for hacking? What was he going to do, hit them with a keyboard?

by The Serbian Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:40 pm
The Steel Magnolia wrote:And people say feminism has run its course.

by Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:41 pm
Vazdania wrote:St George wrote:If convicted of hacking-related charges, Deric Lostutter could get more jail time than the rapists he went after.
In April, the FBI quietly raided the home of the hacker known as KYAnonymous in connection with his role in the Steubenville rape case. Today he spoke out for the first time about the raid, his true identity, and his motivations for pursuing the Steubenville rapists, in an extensive interview with Mother Jones.
"The goal of the media interviews is to get the entire nation to say 'fuck you' to these guys," said KYAnonymous, whose real name is Deric Lostutter. He was referring to the federal agents who raided his home in Winchester, Kentucky, and carted off his computers and XBox.
Lostutter may deserve more credit than anyone for turning Steubenville into a national outrage. After a 16-year-old girl was raped by two members of the Steubenville High football team last year, he obtained and published tweets and Instagram photos in which other team members had joked about the incident and belittled the victim. He now admits to being the man behind the mask in a video posted by another hacker on the team's fan page, RollRedRoll.com, where he threatened action against the players unless they apologized to the girl. (The rapists were convicted in March.)A 26-year-old corporate cybersecurity consultant, Lostutter lives on a farm with his pit bull, Thor, and hunts turkeys, goes fishing, and rides motorcycles in his free time. He considers himself to be a patriotic American; he flies an American flag and enjoys Bud Light. He's also a rapper with the stage name Shadow, and recently released a solo album under the aegis of his own label, Nightshade Records. The name dovetails with that of his Anonymous faction, KnightSec.
Lostutter first got involved in Anonymous about a year ago, after watching the documentary We Are Legion. "This is me," he thought as he learned about the group's commitment to government accountability and transparency. "It was everything that I'd ever preached, and now there's this group of people getting off the couch and doing something about it. I wanted to be part of the movement."
He'd read about the Steubenville rape in the New York Times, but didn't get involved until receiving a message on Twitter from Michelle McKee, a friend of an Ohio blogger who'd written about the case. (You can read about her story here.) McKee gave Lostutter the players' tweets and Instagram photos, which he then decided to publicize because, as he put it, "I was always raised to stick up for people who are getting bullied."
The ensuing tornado of media coverage took him by surprise. He mostly avoided the spotlight, except for a brief interview that he gave to CNN while wearing his Guy Fawkes mask. "I was real scared," but also inspired, he told me. "There were so many people standing behind the cause that it felt like you had an army at your disposal and you could just stick up for what's right."
Yet sometimes the Steubenville army seemed to lack discipline, ignoring the letter of the law as it pursued its own brand of justice. Lostutter says he played no role in the hacking the team's fan page; he points out that another hacker, Batcat, has publicly taken the credit. Still, Lostutter knew from a tipster that the FBI was watching him, he says, and stopped tweeting a few months ago. The FBI knocked on his door just two days after he finally went back online.
At first, he thought the FBI agent at the door was with FedEx. "As I open the door to greet the driver, approximately 12 FBI SWAT team agents jumped out of the truck, screaming for me to 'Get the fuck down!' with M-16 assault rifles and full riot gear, armed, safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wrote today on his blog. "I was handcuffed and detained outside while they cleared my house."
According to the FBI's search warrant, agents were seeking evidence related to the hacking of RollRedRoll.com.
"I'd do it again," Lostutter says.
Lostutter believes that the FBI investigation was motivated by local officials in Steubenville. "They want to make an example of me, saying, 'You don't fucking come after us. Don't question us."
If convicted of hacking-related crimes, Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars—far more than the one- and two-year sentences doled out to the Steubenville rapists. Defending himself could end up costing a fortune—he's soliciting donations here. Still, he thinks getting involved was worth it. "I'd do it again," he says.
The byline of the article says it all really. Without even going into the whole 'motivated by local rape apologists and cover up officials', the fact that he could face 10 years in prison for helping bring rapists to justice is outrageous. I really do hope someone along the way actually thinks for a moment and realises that Lostutter is one of the fucking good guys.
I doubt it'll happen though. Your thoughts, nsg?
Perhaps a Rapist, should experience 10 years of rape. Just sayin'
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by Tiltjuice » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:41 pm

by Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:41 pm
Desperate Measures wrote:greed and death wrote:They both faced 10 years.
Since the hacker is facing federal charges he will be subject to federal sentencing guidelines, The rapist were facing Ohio sentencing guidelines because it was an Ohio criminal matter.
I get it. But it's still hard not to scratch your head about it.

by Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:41 pm
Tiltjuice wrote:Twitter is public domain. How is that hacking anything?
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by Tiltjuice » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:42 pm

by Meryuma » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:44 pm
Ifreann wrote:But let's not act like hacking rapists makes you a hero like the goddamned Batman or something.
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by Brocwika » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:44 pm

by Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:46 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:The Steel Magnolia wrote:And people say feminism has run its course.
Feminism couldn't safe this guy in the first place as he's facing federal hacking charges and not Ohio's state charges for rape. The Feds are a lot more brutal on average and the only way he'll face less time is to plead guilty; otherwise he's destined for 10 years at Leavenworth where the likes of Michael Vick (dog fighting ring) and Sgt. William Calley (My Lai war criminal) have been held.

by The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:46 pm

by Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:46 pm
Brocwika wrote:What does rape culture have to do with this? It's just a fucked up leal system, not a feminist theory in action.
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by The Serbian Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:47 pm
greed and death wrote:The Serbian Empire wrote:Feminism couldn't safe this guy in the first place as he's facing federal hacking charges and not Ohio's state charges for rape. The Feds are a lot more brutal on average and the only way he'll face less time is to plead guilty; otherwise he's destined for 10 years at Leavenworth where the likes of Michael Vick (dog fighting ring) and Sgt. William Calley (My Lai war criminal) have been held.
Federal crimes also have a mandatory minimum sentence.

by Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:49 pm
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Brocwika wrote:What does rape culture have to do with this? It's just a fucked up leal system, not a feminist theory in action.
Protip - don't call it that.
You won't get far with an opinion like that, even on here.
Two - arguably, rape culture is indeed implied by the poor preliminary sentence estimates on the alleged rapists and the frankly bizarre preliminary sentence on the 'hacker' who uncovered their supposed crime and their involvement in it.
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