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Ethel mermania
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Libertarian Police State

Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:37 am

greed and death wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.

How is a guy being accused/investigated for breaking the law equal rape culture.

A corner stone of law is we do not get to engage in vigilante justice. Just because you feel outrage for the crime or feel sorry for the victim does not mean you get to ignore the law.


oh silly greed, on this site it means your a rape apologist who supports rape, and wants to go out on state supported raping parties on tuesdays and alternate fridays.
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Gravlen
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Gravlen » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:That said, there's no guarantee that the other person claiming responsibility is being truthful about it. I expect the investigation to uncover more about who did what when.

Surely someone wouldn't lie on the internet!

Of course not.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to tell James to bring around my red Bugatti Veyron for my outing to the supermodel sex party this evening. My blue one got scratched up while I was fighting crime yesterday.
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Tahar Joblis
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tahar Joblis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:00 am

St George wrote:The byline of the article says it all really. Without even going into the whole 'motivated by local rape apologists and cover up officials', the fact that he could face 10 years in prison for helping bring rapists to justice is outrageous. I really do hope someone along the way actually thinks for a moment and realises that Lostutter is one of the fucking good guys.

I doubt it'll happen though. Your thoughts, nsg?

Bluntly speaking? Cherry picked examples aren't representative of normal sentencing practices. On average - and I should bring this to your new thread - sentences for rape are actually quite long.

Statistics from Bureau of Justice Statistics on sentence lengths at admission. These are the most serious charges, sorted by mean sentence length, on the most specific subcategories available in those tables:
Most serious offenseMedian sentenceMean sentence
Murder441291
Rape120158
Nonnegligent manslaughter132157
Unspecified homicide102139
Negligent manslaughter84116
Other Sexual Assault72115
Kidnapping60108
Robbery6596
Arson6081


You serve a month's less time, on average, for non-negligent manslaughter than for rape. You serve less time for kidnapping or arson than for other sexual assaults, exclusive of rape cases. Those numbers are in months; the median sentence for someone whose most serious offense is rape is ten years. The mean sentence is thirteen years and two months. The reason the Steubenville duo got off with light sentences is because they were tried as juveniles; not as adults.

The typical sentence for a rapist is as long as the worst possible sentence Lostutter could face, in the event he's actually convicted. I'm not saying that the charges he's up against don't seem ridiculous from what's presented in the article; but that's more an indication that we have remarkably stiff punishments for cybersecurity / IP related matters than an indication we are actually taking it easy on rapists.
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