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Rape: 1 years, 2 years. Bringing rapists to justice: 10.

Postby St George » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:10 pm

If convicted of hacking-related charges, Deric Lostutter could get more jail time than the rapists he went after.

In April, the FBI quietly raided the home of the hacker known as KYAnonymous in connection with his role in the Steubenville rape case. Today he spoke out for the first time about the raid, his true identity, and his motivations for pursuing the Steubenville rapists, in an extensive interview with Mother Jones.

"The goal of the media interviews is to get the entire nation to say 'fuck you' to these guys," said KYAnonymous, whose real name is Deric Lostutter. He was referring to the federal agents who raided his home in Winchester, Kentucky, and carted off his computers and XBox.

Lostutter may deserve more credit than anyone for turning Steubenville into a national outrage. After a 16-year-old girl was raped by two members of the Steubenville High football team last year, he obtained and published tweets and Instagram photos in which other team members had joked about the incident and belittled the victim. He now admits to being the man behind the mask in a video posted by another hacker on the team's fan page, RollRedRoll.com, where he threatened action against the players unless they apologized to the girl. (The rapists were convicted in March.)
A 26-year-old corporate cybersecurity consultant, Lostutter lives on a farm with his pit bull, Thor, and hunts turkeys, goes fishing, and rides motorcycles in his free time. He considers himself to be a patriotic American; he flies an American flag and enjoys Bud Light. He's also a rapper with the stage name Shadow, and recently released a solo album under the aegis of his own label, Nightshade Records. The name dovetails with that of his Anonymous faction, KnightSec.

Lostutter first got involved in Anonymous about a year ago, after watching the documentary We Are Legion. "This is me," he thought as he learned about the group's commitment to government accountability and transparency. "It was everything that I'd ever preached, and now there's this group of people getting off the couch and doing something about it. I wanted to be part of the movement."

He'd read about the Steubenville rape in the New York Times, but didn't get involved until receiving a message on Twitter from Michelle McKee, a friend of an Ohio blogger who'd written about the case. (You can read about her story here.) McKee gave Lostutter the players' tweets and Instagram photos, which he then decided to publicize because, as he put it, "I was always raised to stick up for people who are getting bullied."

The ensuing tornado of media coverage took him by surprise. He mostly avoided the spotlight, except for a brief interview that he gave to CNN while wearing his Guy Fawkes mask. "I was real scared," but also inspired, he told me. "There were so many people standing behind the cause that it felt like you had an army at your disposal and you could just stick up for what's right."

Yet sometimes the Steubenville army seemed to lack discipline, ignoring the letter of the law as it pursued its own brand of justice. Lostutter says he played no role in the hacking the team's fan page; he points out that another hacker, Batcat, has publicly taken the credit. Still, Lostutter knew from a tipster that the FBI was watching him, he says, and stopped tweeting a few months ago. The FBI knocked on his door just two days after he finally went back online.

At first, he thought the FBI agent at the door was with FedEx. "As I open the door to greet the driver, approximately 12 FBI SWAT team agents jumped out of the truck, screaming for me to 'Get the fuck down!' with M-16 assault rifles and full riot gear, armed, safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wrote today on his blog. "I was handcuffed and detained outside while they cleared my house."

According to the FBI's search warrant, agents were seeking evidence related to the hacking of RollRedRoll.com.

"I'd do it again," Lostutter says.
Lostutter believes that the FBI investigation was motivated by local officials in Steubenville. "They want to make an example of me, saying, 'You don't fucking come after us. Don't question us."

If convicted of hacking-related crimes, Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars—far more than the one- and two-year sentences doled out to the Steubenville rapists. Defending himself could end up costing a fortune—he's soliciting donations here. Still, he thinks getting involved was worth it. "I'd do it again," he says.


The byline of the article says it all really. Without even going into the whole 'motivated by local rape apologists and cover up officials', the fact that he could face 10 years in prison for helping bring rapists to justice is outrageous. I really do hope someone along the way actually thinks for a moment and realises that Lostutter is one of the fucking good guys.

I doubt it'll happen though. Your thoughts, nsg?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:11 pm

Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:15 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.

If anything it shows Ohio has a strong rape culture or at least an obsession with football.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:15 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.

If anything it shows Ohio has a strong rape culture or at least an obsession with football.

That's a huge understatement.
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Postby Resora » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:16 pm

This fucking country man.
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Postby Vareiln » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:17 pm

And yet people will deny to the end that there is no such thing as a rape culture.
Or maybe, in this case, football culture.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:18 pm

Imagine what it must be like during the Army/Navy football games.
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Postby TaQud » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:18 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:an obsession with football.

ironically the 2 Ohio Football Pro Teams (Cleveland an Cincinnati) have wom a total of...4 championships. Last one in the 1950s.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:22 pm

Sorry Anon, picking a good target this time doesn't give you a get out of jail free card. Clap him in irons!

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:23 pm

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:23 pm

Ifreann wrote:Sorry Anon, picking a good target this time doesn't give you a get out of jail free card. Clap him in irons!

That's not the problem, the problem is that his sentence is much longer than the sentence of the actual rapists.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:25 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sorry Anon, picking a good target this time doesn't give you a get out of jail free card. Clap him in irons!

That's not the problem, the problem is that his sentence is much longer than the sentence of the actual rapists.

Hackers are scary. Rapists are adorably misguided. I guess.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:25 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.

How is a guy being accused/investigated for breaking the law equal rape culture.

A corner stone of law is we do not get to engage in vigilante justice. Just because you feel outrage for the crime or feel sorry for the victim does not mean you get to ignore the law.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:27 pm

greed and death wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.

How is a guy being accused/investigated for breaking the law equal rape culture.

A corner stone of law is we do not get to engage in vigilante justice. Just because you feel outrage for the crime or feel sorry for the victim does not mean you get to ignore the law.

I was referring to the rapists receiving a much shorter sentence than the hacker.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:27 pm

So they're just ignoring the guy who's publicly admitted to the hacking?

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:29 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sorry Anon, picking a good target this time doesn't give you a get out of jail free card. Clap him in irons!

That's not the problem, the problem is that his sentence is much longer than the sentence of the actual rapists.

The rape faced up tot 10 years as well.
They got the lower end of it because of the factors Ohio uses in sentencing.
http://www.criminalattorneycolumbus.com ... /Rape.aspx
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:30 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:That's not the problem, the problem is that his sentence is much longer than the sentence of the actual rapists.

Hackers are scary. Rapists are adorably misguided. I guess.

They both faced 10 years.
Since the hacker is facing federal charges he will be subject to federal sentencing guidelines, The rapist were facing Ohio sentencing guidelines because it was an Ohio criminal matter.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:31 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
greed and death wrote:How is a guy being accused/investigated for breaking the law equal rape culture.

A corner stone of law is we do not get to engage in vigilante justice. Just because you feel outrage for the crime or feel sorry for the victim does not mean you get to ignore the law.

I was referring to the rapists receiving a much shorter sentence than the hacker.

The hacker has not received a sentence.
Further even if he does the federal government can not nor should it change its sentencing guidelines because Ohio was soft.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:31 pm

greed and death wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.

How is a guy being accused/investigated for breaking the law equal rape culture.

A corner stone of law is we do not get to engage in vigilante justice. Just because you feel outrage for the crime or feel sorry for the victim does not mean you get to ignore the law.

What do they expect the government to do? Let him go for illegal hacking?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:34 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sorry Anon, picking a good target this time doesn't give you a get out of jail free card. Clap him in irons!

That's not the problem, the problem is that his sentence is much longer than the sentence of the actual rapists.

So why is it "Bringing rapists to justice: 10", as though the accused has done something good that shouldn't be punished at all? Complaining that hacking gets a higher sentence than rape, fine, go for it. Shit, go for it hard, because that's pretty messed the fuck up. But let's not act like hacking rapists makes you a hero like the goddamned Batman or something.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:34 pm

Luveria wrote:
greed and death wrote:How is a guy being accused/investigated for breaking the law equal rape culture.

A corner stone of law is we do not get to engage in vigilante justice. Just because you feel outrage for the crime or feel sorry for the victim does not mean you get to ignore the law.

What do they expect the government to do? Let him go for illegal hacking?

It's just that the comparative lengths of the sentences is a very clear example of our society's rape culture.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:34 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Yet people STILL claim that there is no rape culture.

I'm not sure that people rape is quite implicative of a 'rape culture'.
Not denying that there is one, or that some people are bastards and go out raping women.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:35 pm

Ifreann wrote:Sorry Anon, picking a good target this time doesn't give you a get out of jail free card. Clap him in irons!

Anon has taken the message and will go back to bullying gay kids until they commit suicide.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:35 pm

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