Atheists to start 1-800 hotline for doubters

[Aeribis]

While I do believe that there needs to be a helpful hotline for people having doubts, I do believe that it shouldn't be a biased party. And, yes, Athiests are biased, as are religious folks. There should be a third person party that is completely unbiased to talk to these people, and lead them to their own conclusions about it.

[Benuty]

Im quite serious, I would like to know how to properly enact a ritual to summon Cthulhu.

Yeah, you're joking. Stop fucking around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon

Not in the slightest.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

This is a discussion. Whether you're biased or not, it's a discussion.

Says the "Hitler BDSM alien" fetish guy.

PEOPLE. The topic. It's that way. *points* Get on it, or go elsewhere. You realize, of course, that what keeps these threads you're so ravenously bitching about is that YOU KEEP RESPONDING, right? I know, I know 'someone is wrong on the internet' all over again. This is NSG and all. But really. Think for a moment. Weigh the pros and cons of toeing the line of smartassery and getting yourselves in trouble over it, and whether or not it's really worth your time, hmm? Gadzooks. Scroll up - even I've submitted opinions on the topic mixed with the usual teasing and back and forth that goes on in this forum. Oi.

[Shaggai]

... Please tell me you're joking.

Im quite serious, I would like to know how to properly enact a ritual to summon Cthulhu.

YOU FOOL! CTHULHU WILL NOT RESPOND TO THE CALL OF PETTY MORTALS! YOU DO NOT CALL CTHULHU! CTHULHU CALLS YOU!
Except in Soviet Russia.
If you want to summon something, try the Haunter of the Dark. All you need is to look into the crystal.

[The Rich Port]

Yeah, you're joking. Stop fucking around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon

Not in the slightest.

What does being a criminal have to do with being an atheist and worshipping Cthulhu?

While I do believe that there needs to be a helpful hotline for people having doubts, I do believe that it shouldn't be a biased party. And, yes, Athiests are biased, as are religious folks. There should be a third person party that is completely unbiased to talk to these people, and lead them to their own conclusions about it.

So... The Swedish should be the ones who keep the hotlines?

That's fucking stupid.

[Pillea]

While I do believe that there needs to be a helpful hotline for people having doubts, I do believe that it shouldn't be a biased party. And, yes, Athiests are biased, as are religious folks. There should be a third person party that is completely unbiased to talk to these people, and lead them to their own conclusions about it.

Not all atheists are seeking to "convert" people away from their belief amusingly enough. I've been a sounding board for numerous friends who had times of religious disbelief, one just became a priest recently and I couldn't be happier for him.

[The Sector Union]

Why would I get tired of NSG? I've been looking for a site like this for ages.

Oh, crap! People like you are actively looking for sites like this one? I'm afraid it's going to be an interesting summer...

Since 2009, I have been looking for a nation simulator. It was only until 2013 where I yelled "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".
Anyways, I realized the forums were a good place to express and discussion my opinions and views.

[Grave_n_idle]

Serious, I begin to see more and more that atheism today is more a religion then the pure, non-religious believing.

I don't honestly see why that would be a bad thing.

Am I missing something?

And - isn't it what the theists have been claiming, anyway, for years?

Hotlines, blaming all bad things to religion, saying that the world is better if there was only atheism on it...

I'm an atheist. I'm pro-religion. Generalisations are rarely helpful.

Yep, atheism today is more like any other religion today.

That... seems unlikely. You're going to have to explain that one.

Whats next, a hotline for people who are left-handed?

Sure. Why not? Is there some kind of rule about what you can have helplines for?

[The Ferret Revolution]

Says the "Hitler BDSM alien" fetish guy.

PEOPLE. The topic. It's that way. *points* Get on it, or go elsewhere. You realize, of course, that what keeps these threads you're so ravenously bitching about is that YOU KEEP RESPONDING, right? I know, I know 'someone is wrong on the internet' all over again. This is NSG and all. But really. Think for a moment. Weigh the pros and cons of toeing the line of smartassery and getting yourselves in trouble over it, and whether or not it's really worth your time, hmm? Gadzooks. Scroll up - even I've submitted opinions on the topic mixed with the usual teasing and back and forth that goes on in this forum. Oi.

If we just brought this topic horribly off course you would have to lock it right... *smiles evilly*

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

PEOPLE. The topic. It's that way. *points* Get on it, or go elsewhere. You realize, of course, that what keeps these threads you're so ravenously bitching about is that YOU KEEP RESPONDING, right? I know, I know 'someone is wrong on the internet' all over again. This is NSG and all. But really. Think for a moment. Weigh the pros and cons of toeing the line of smartassery and getting yourselves in trouble over it, and whether or not it's really worth your time, hmm? Gadzooks. Scroll up - even I've submitted opinions on the topic mixed with the usual teasing and back and forth that goes on in this forum. Oi.

If we just brought this topic horribly off course you would have to lock it right... *smiles evilly*

Not before handing out ample redtext across the board like Christmas candy. *smiles more evilly*

[Grave_n_idle]

While I do believe that there needs to be a helpful hotline for people having doubts, I do believe that it shouldn't be a biased party. And, yes, Athiests are biased, as are religious folks. There should be a third person party that is completely unbiased to talk to these people, and lead them to their own conclusions about it.

Not all atheists are seeking to "convert" people away from their belief amusingly enough. I've been a sounding board for numerous friends who had times of religious disbelief, one just became a priest recently and I couldn't be happier for him.

Indeed. I'm a pro-religion atheist.

[Tsuntion]

WHO NEEDS TO TALK TO SOMEONE OVER THE LINE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DOUBTING? No seriously, this is something you can do on your own. You don't need a service to do that.

Lots of people. When you have a very religious upbringing, dealing with doubts about your religion can be incredibly hard and painful and confusing and scary. Trust me on this.

Your whole world is religious; there is nobody neutral you can talk to, nobody who will listen and not condemn you for doubting, nobody who will help you come to your own conclusions about religion rather than forcing their conclusions onto you.

You've never heard that it's okay to be an atheist -- why, to even think of thinking of beginning to get out of religion is wrong and bad and sinful and you are a horrible person for considering it.

You fear being shunned by friends and family if they find out you've got doubts.

You might not believe in Hell any more, but you still think you're going there for asking questions, because that's what's been drummed into your head all your life.

A period of questioning your religion can feel like your world is falling apart. Sometimes, someone whose world is falling apart needs a hotline. I think that's understandable. Talking to someone else about questioning or losing your faith can help you find new perspectives, prod your beliefs deeper, and work through your doubts and questions and confusions. Not everybody needs this, but some do, and it should be available to those people. It's not bad or unnecessary or silly.

This is another stunt by the cult of atheism in an attempt to copy god-based religion ideals.

How?

In fact, the hotline is obviously a recruitment center. Next thing you know, they will convert people mormon-style.

The hotline is very specifically not aimed at deconverting people.

Thoughts?

It's a great initiative; I wish someone had made it earlier; I expect it will help many people; I would like to donate or help out in another way; when is it coming to my country?

[The Rich Port]

Serious, I begin to see more and more that atheism today is more a religion then the pure, non-religious believing.

Hotlines, blaming all bad things to religion, saying that the world is better if there was only atheism on it...

Yep, atheism today is more like any other religion today.

Whats next, a hotline for people who are left-handed?

This post is somehow dumber than the OP's.

Give this guy a golden sticker.

[Divair]

Oh, crap! People like you are actively looking for sites like this one? I'm afraid it's going to be an interesting summer...

Since 2009, I have been looking for a nation simulator. It was only until 2013 where I yelled "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".
Anyways, I realized the forums were a good place to express and discussion my opinions and views.

And the rest of us suffer because of it.

[Polkopia]

*Sigh*

[The Rich Port]

OP, could you stop being incoherent for 5 seconds and help me out here?

I don't understand your objections to this.

Are you not an atheist if you don't like other religions?

What DO you believe, OP?

[The Sector Union]

WHO NEEDS TO TALK TO SOMEONE OVER THE LINE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DOUBTING? No seriously, this is something you can do on your own. You don't need a service to do that.

Lots of people. When you have a very religious upbringing, dealing with doubts about your religion can be incredibly hard and painful and confusing and scary. Trust me on this.

Your whole world is religious; there is nobody neutral you can talk to, nobody who will listen and not condemn you for doubting, nobody who will help you come to your own conclusions about religion rather than forcing their conclusions onto you.

You've never heard that it's okay to be an atheist -- why, to even think of thinking of beginning to get out of religion is wrong and bad and sinful and you are a horrible person for considering it.

You fear being shunned by friends and family if they find out you've got doubts.

You might not believe in Hell any more, but you still think you're going there for asking questions, because that's what's been drummed into your head all your life.

A period of questioning your religion can feel like your world is falling apart. Sometimes, someone whose world is falling apart needs a hotline. I think that's understandable. Talking to someone else about questioning or losing your faith can help you find new perspectives, prod your beliefs deeper, and work through your doubts and questions and confusions. Not everybody needs this, but some do, and it should be available to those people. It's not bad or unnecessary or silly.

This is another stunt by the cult of atheism in an attempt to copy god-based religion ideals.

How?

In fact, the hotline is obviously a recruitment center. Next thing you know, they will convert people mormon-style.

The hotline is very specifically not aimed at deconverting people.

Thoughts?

It's a great initiative; I wish someone had made it earlier; I expect it will help many people; I would like to donate or help out in another way; when is it coming to my country?

They are deconverting people. The fact that they ask for people who are having doubt is an easy initiative to lure them into atheism.

[Hurdegaryp]

PEOPLE. The topic. It's that way. *points* Get on it, or go elsewhere. You realize, of course, that what keeps these threads you're so ravenously bitching about is that YOU KEEP RESPONDING, right? I know, I know 'someone is wrong on the internet' all over again. This is NSG and all. But really. Think for a moment. Weigh the pros and cons of toeing the line of smartassery and getting yourselves in trouble over it, and whether or not it's really worth your time, hmm? Gadzooks. Scroll up - even I've submitted opinions on the topic mixed with the usual teasing and back and forth that goes on in this forum. Oi.

Sometimes I almost believe that people actually enjoy it, but that's probably just me. Mind you, it's only logical (your definition of logic may be different) to assume that a hotline for those who seriously doubt the dogmas they were brought up with is only another diabolical plan to utterly rape and ruin God's promised land, the United States of America. Makes perfect sense, right? Right? YOU WILL TELL ME I AM RIGHT.

[The Steel Magnolia]

...and? Fine, good, whatever. I don't really care.

[The Ferret Revolution]

While I do believe that there needs to be a helpful hotline for people having doubts, I do believe that it shouldn't be a biased party. And, yes, Athiests are biased, as are religious folks. There should be a third person party that is completely unbiased to talk to these people, and lead them to their own conclusions about it.

Not all atheists are seeking to "convert" people away from their belief amusingly enough. I've been a sounding board for numerous friends who had times of religious disbelief, one just became a priest recently and I couldn't be happier for him.

As an atheist myself whenever I am asked about it or people try to convert me I just tell them the facts. The facts that scientists worked hard to discover and agree on and leave it at that. They can see the truth or they can continue believing in god I don't really care. I told them the information their parents, preachers, and the rest of society wouldn't give them and I let them do with it what they please. I know when I told my best friend the facts he told me that no one had ever told him that there was a chance that he wouldn't go to heaven, never once was he told about the big bang. I told him he could do what he wanted and he became atheist, the rest of my friends that asked me about it didn't. I don't have a problem with believing in god by the way, I just don't like organized religion. Even with not liking organized religion I'm still not making threads about it or spouting it to the world.

[The Sector Union]

OP, could you stop being incoherent for 5 seconds and help me out here?

I don't understand your objections to this.

Are you not an atheist if you don't like other religions?

What DO you believe, OP?

My beliefs is science-creationism. I believe at the moment of the big bang, a god or deity was born. The deity built the first building blocks of galaxies, stars, planets, moons and of course life and BAM! Everything goes automatic like the biggest contraption to exist. Yes, a deity is involved, but there is a lot of science after that.

That is why I believe in.

No churches, no worships, no gospel.
No ridiculing, no stubbornness, and no atheism.

That's really all.

[The Ferret Revolution]

If we just brought this topic horribly off course you would have to lock it right... *smiles evilly*

Not before handing out ample redtext across the board like Christmas candy. *smiles more evilly*

With that being said... hey guys any of you here about that new Quantic Dream game Beyond Two Souls coming out it looks fucking awesome!!!

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Not all atheists are seeking to "convert" people away from their belief amusingly enough. I've been a sounding board for numerous friends who had times of religious disbelief, one just became a priest recently and I couldn't be happier for him.

As an atheist myself whenever I am asked about it or people try to convert me I just tell them the facts. The facts that scientists worked hard to discover and agree on and leave it at that. They can see the truth or they can continue believing in god I don't really care. I told them the information their parents, preachers, and the rest of society wouldn't give them and I let them do with it what they please. I know when I told my best friend the facts he told me that no one had ever told him that there was a chance that he wouldn't go to heaven, never once was he told about the big bang. I told him he could do what he wanted and he became atheist, the rest of my friends that asked me about it didn't. I don't have a problem with believing in god by the way, I just don't like organized religion. Even with not liking organized religion I'm still not making threads about it or spouting it to the world.

What facts?

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

OP, could you stop being incoherent for 5 seconds and help me out here?

I don't understand your objections to this.

Are you not an atheist if you don't like other religions?

What DO you believe, OP?

My beliefs is science-creationism. I believe at the moment of the big bang, a god or deity was born. The deity built the first building blocks of galaxies, stars, planets, moons and of course life and BAM! Everything goes automatic like the biggest contraption to exist. Yes, a deity is involved, but there is a lot of science after that.

That is why I believe in.

No churches, no worships, no gospel.
No ridiculing, no stubbornness, and no atheism.

That's really all.

Then stop stubbornly ridiculing everyone who doesn't happen to think the same way you do. Problem solved.

[Hurdegaryp]

My beliefs is science-creationism. I believe at the moment of the big bang, a god or deity was born. The deity built the first building blocks of galaxies, stars, planets, moons and of course life and BAM! Everything goes automatic like the biggest contraption to exist. Yes, a deity is involved, but there is a lot of science after that.

That is why I believe in.

No churches, no worships, no gospel.
No ridiculing, no stubbornness, and no atheism.

That's really all.

Then stop stubbornly ridiculing everyone who doesn't happen to think the same way you do. Problem solved.

He could also start a blog.