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Postby Shallowell » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:30 pm

Zavea wrote:no. the earth, is in fact, not the plot of final fantasy 7.

Thank you so much for making this reference.


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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:30 pm

This is stupid.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:30 pm

Lost heros wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:Learn? I just post threads for discussions.

you guys just hate some originality.

No we hate pointless threads that are annoying.

Now that's not exactly the truth, now is it? There is actually quite a bit of appreciation for threads such as this one, otherwise we wouldn't be joining the mayhem with our responses. True, we like threads such as this one for all the wrong reasons, but we still like them. It gives us something to fill the inner emptiness with.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:31 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Once again, may I point out that the reason these threads are getting so much attention and are constantly on the front page for you to whine about, is because YOU KEEP POSTING TO THEM.

Ponder that for a moment. I'm sure eventually you'll grasp the solution.


So, we need to post more on these kinds of threads? I don't...I dont know what you want us to do.

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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:32 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Once again, may I point out that the reason these threads are getting so much attention and are constantly on the front page for you to whine about, is because YOU KEEP POSTING TO THEM.

Ponder that for a moment. I'm sure eventually you'll grasp the solution.


So, we need to post more on these kinds of threads? I don't...I dont know what you want us to do.


I have a nice, clean, non-partisan thread on the news. Would everyone please direct their attention there.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:34 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
So, we need to post more on these kinds of threads? I don't...I dont know what you want us to do.


I have a nice, clean, non-partisan thread on the news. Would everyone please direct their attention there.


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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:35 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
I have a nice, clean, non-partisan thread on the news. Would everyone please direct their attention there.


Non-partisan my furry, purple ass. BBC hides child rapists, and al Obama is funded by a government who gets their wealth from oil companies.


You must be fun at parties.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:36 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Non-partisan my furry, purple ass. BBC hides child rapists, and al Obama is funded by a government who gets their wealth from oil companies.


You must be fun at parties.


Depends how drunk I am.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:36 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:So, we need to post more on these kinds of threads? I don't...I dont know what you want us to do.

I have a nice, clean, non-partisan thread on the news. Would everyone please direct their attention there.

But where's the fun in that? Wait a sec... I just got a message from Mother Earth that she's interested in your thread, but it has to wait until she's done looking at lolcats.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Dilange » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:37 pm

I saw the title and just came in here to post this:

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But in all seriousness.....what?

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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:37 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
You must be fun at parties.


Depends how drunk I am.


You don't always drink beer, but when you do...
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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:38 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:I have a nice, clean, non-partisan thread on the news. Would everyone please direct their attention there.

But where's the fun in that? Wait a sec... I just got a message from Mother Earth that she's interested in your thread, but it has to wait until she's done looking at lolcats.


Whatta slut.
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Postby Miyager » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:38 pm

Zavea wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:What is Final Fantasy 7?


oh, right. you were more than likely born in the 00's...

nevermind.


I was born in the 90's and the Final Fantasy universe never appealed to me.
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:44 pm

This is not the Foundation Series, and we're not on Gaia.
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Postby Wolny Kraj » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:50 pm

Zavea wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:What is Final Fantasy 7?


oh, right. you were more than likely born in the 00's...

nevermind.


Yes because everyone born before the 2000s HAS to know about every video game with a circlejerky fanbase, and teenagers are too stupid to play 90s video games.
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Postby Surfistan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:11 pm

The earth is flat.
There, I said it, happy now?
I have proof of it, in my research chamber in the basement. I made a model that works, so it has to be true right?


And my anwer would be; not very likely, I used to be a firm supporter of the Gaia hypthesis, but in time, becoming more questioning and rational, I lost that faith too.
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Postby Mkuki » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:16 pm

Allodiam wrote:
Mkuki wrote:I, personally, believe that climate change exists and that some of its processes have been sped up by certain human activities. However, your alarmism is unfounded. Human activity doesn't have the capacity to destroy Earth-bound life, unintentional or otherwise.


I didn't realise I was being alarmist not like its going happen tomorrow, just stating how I see it turning out.

Depends how you classify 'human activity'.

Personally I classify it as anything we do and I mean anything, including accidentally stepping on a snail at night time to carpet bombing a country with nukes. We are completely capable of destroying a lot of earth-bound life (excluding the scorpions, bacteria and viruses that is).

If that is how you are classifying 'human activity' then every single living organism, not just humans, are guilty of destroying life. Do you not see how ridiculous that sounds?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:24 pm

Wolny Kraj wrote:
Zavea wrote:oh, right. you were more than likely born in the 00's...

nevermind.

Yes because everyone born before the 2000s HAS to know about every video game with a circlejerky fanbase, and teenagers are too stupid to play 90s video games.

I see you got the memo. Good, good. Keep calm and carry on, please.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:31 pm

OP keeps reminding me of Shyamalan for some reason.

But no, there is no evidence that the Earth is sentient.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:35 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:OP keeps reminding me of Shyamalan for some reason.

But no, there is no evidence that the Earth is sentient.

You're only saying that because science is a part of the atheist-technocratic conspiracy to make everyone into members of their cult. The OP's opinion, not mine.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Antares XII » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:46 pm

The Sector Union wrote:
Aidannadia wrote:Believe it or not there are people that believe this, though not to the same extent as the actual earth being a telepath, but to the extent that the thoughts of one person can affect the thoughts of another.

Examples:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/through-the-wormhole-is-there-a-sixth-sense/Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman
and there is an online short video series you can find called Spirit Science, which is a bit out there but it is at least interesting to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmN2RL4VJsESpirit Science

Now, can I say that this is true? Not really. I don't personally believe it to be true, as I like any kind of faith at all, but it is an interesting thought and some weird science supporting it.

The Short Version: No, I don't think so.


They acted like this was some insane idea I came up with by myself. It's a theory that has been around for decades.


TSU. Do you cherrypick which replies you read?

Fanaglia wrote:
Antares XII wrote:You mean this, this, this, or something else entirely?


Thank you. I knew there was a specific term for it and that it was hardly new. OP, read these, especially the first two.


Antares XII wrote:I aim to please. To be fair to TSU, the Gaia hypothesis (first link) has some scientific support these days. It's not much, and it's only in the vaguest and loosest sense, but it is valid:

The scientifically accepted form of the hypothesis has been called "influential Gaia". It states the biota influence certain aspects of the abiotic world, e.g. temperature and atmosphere. They state the evolution of life and its environment may affect each other. An example is how the activity of photosynthetic bacteria during Precambrian times have completely modified the Earth atmosphere to turn it aerobic, and as such supporting evolution of life (in particular eukaryotic life).

Biologists and Earth scientists usually view the factors that stabilize the characteristics of a period as an undirected emergent property or entelechy of the system; as each individual species pursues its own self-interest, for example, their combined actions may have counterbalancing effects on environmental change. Opponents of this view sometimes reference examples of events that resulted in dramatic change rather than stable equilibrium, such as the conversion of the Earth's atmosphere from a reducing environment to an oxygen-rich one.


Orham wrote:Bingo, this is exactly what I'm saying is solid.


But I think the following paragraph might be closer to what TSU is after:

Fringe science versions of the hypothesis claim that changes in the biosphere are brought about through the coordination of living organisms and maintain those conditions through homeostasis. In Gaia philosophy, all lifeforms are considered part of one single living planetary being called Gaia. In this view, the atmosphere, the seas and the terrestrial crust would be results of interventions carried out by Gaia through the coevolving diversity of living organisms. However, the Earth as a unit does not match the generally accepted biological criteria for life itself, for example, there is no evidence to suggest that "Gaia" has reproduced. This argument is countered by the fact that mules do not reproduce, yet they are also classified as living.


Orham wrote:Two for two, I think you've got it. Only TSU added telepathy for some reason. This is the part I said was nonsense.


There is a hypothesis, not a theory. There is a difference between the two. If you do not use these two words properly, there is a good chance that others will not take you seriously when you put forth such ideas as you have in your OP.
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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:01 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:OP keeps reminding me of Shyamalan for some reason.

But no, there is no evidence that the Earth is sentient.

You're only saying that because science is a part of the atheist-technocratic conspiracy to make everyone into members of their cult. The OP's opinion, not mine.


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Ainin wrote:Do pigs fly?

I believe one actually has.
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