The Earth could be a telepathic being?

[Orham]

But this thread was about Earth as one organism, not FF7. That first post guy brought that up.

And that's what I was getting at with my initial post here. It's appropriate to think of the biosphere as a densely woven fabric of organisms which can and do have an impact on the planet, both as individual species and as groups of species. It's inappropriate, however, to think of the planet itself as somehow being "alive" or to think that organisms across the planet have some sort of supernatural connection to one another.

One is a stance grounded in hard science. The other is nonsensical.

[Zavea]

paraphernalia like copies of final fantasy 7

FF7 is sex paraphernalia? Man, have I been using my copy wrong!

you're gross, zavea herador

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Dude,

the BDSM thread was supposed to discourage that stuff. I was talking about how the federals should raid people's homes for sex paraphernalia.

That's the most amoral thing I've seen advocated on NS.

...Really?
Think about it for a second. The Nazi shit ALONE...

[The Sector Union]

What is Final Fantasy 7?

You've never heard of FF7....

Today, a tear had been shed of these youth.

Again,

not every childhood involves video games and TV watching.

[Herador]

FF7 is sex paraphernalia? Man, have I been using my copy wrong!

Zavea, FF7 and that BDSM stuff have nothing to do with each. Don't get it mixed up.

...I'm not Zavea.

FF7 is sex paraphernalia? Man, have I been using my copy wrong!

you're gross, zavea herador

[Regnum Dominae]

This whole thing is about suburban moms who are marijuana capitalist BDSM enthusiasts who worship the earth as one organism whilst playing Final Fantasy 7.

Telepathic suburban Marijuana Capitalists are whipped by BDSM ancient aliens as a bystander licks his taco and posts it online; meanwhile the ancient alien's orgasm is producing energy which awakens Hitler from the dead, showing us that he is in fact a coprophile; meanwhile Coca Cola is working to convince American voters that Sarah Palin is hot so that American Atheists can take over the world and establish an atheocratic dictatorship.

Welcome to Sector Union's world.

[Zavea]

FF7 is sex paraphernalia? Man, have I been using my copy wrong!

Zavea, FF7 and that BDSM stuff have nothing to do with each. Don't get it mixed up.

those two things are my holy binity

[Fanaglia]

This whole thing is about suburban moms who are marijuana capitalist BDSM enthusiasts who worship the earth as one organism whilst playing Final Fantasy 7.

Dude,

the BDSM thread was supposed to discourage that stuff. I was talking about how the federals should raid people's homes for sex paraphernalia.

Wut. OK, now I'm doubting your seriousness.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

This whole thing is about suburban moms who are marijuana capitalist BDSM enthusiasts who worship the earth as one organism whilst playing Final Fantasy 7.

Telepathic suburban Marijuana Capitalists being whipped by BDSM ancient aliens as a bystander licks his taco and posts it online, meanwhile the ancient alien's orgasm is producing energy which awakens Hitler from the dead, showing us that he is in fact a coprophile; meanwhile Coca Cola is working to convince American voters that Sarah Palin is hot so that American Atheists can take over the world and establish an atheocratic dictatorship.

NEXT TIME ON "AS THE GENERALITES TURN"...

[Antares XII]

You mean this, this, this, or something else entirely?

Thank you. I knew there was a specific term for it and that it was hardly new. OP, read these, especially the first two.

I aim to please. To be fair to TSU, the Gaia hypothesis (first link) has some scientific support these days. It's not much, and it's only in the vaguest and loosest sense, but it is valid:

The scientifically accepted form of the hypothesis has been called "influential Gaia". It states the biota influence certain aspects of the abiotic world, e.g. temperature and atmosphere. They state the evolution of life and its environment may affect each other. An example is how the activity of photosynthetic bacteria during Precambrian times have completely modified the Earth atmosphere to turn it aerobic, and as such supporting evolution of life (in particular eukaryotic life).

Biologists and Earth scientists usually view the factors that stabilize the characteristics of a period as an undirected emergent property or entelechy of the system; as each individual species pursues its own self-interest, for example, their combined actions may have counterbalancing effects on environmental change. Opponents of this view sometimes reference examples of events that resulted in dramatic change rather than stable equilibrium, such as the conversion of the Earth's atmosphere from a reducing environment to an oxygen-rich one.

But I think the following paragraph might be closer to what TSU is after:

Fringe science versions of the hypothesis claim that changes in the biosphere are brought about through the coordination of living organisms and maintain those conditions through homeostasis. In Gaia philosophy, all lifeforms are considered part of one single living planetary being called Gaia. In this view, the atmosphere, the seas and the terrestrial crust would be results of interventions carried out by Gaia through the coevolving diversity of living organisms. However, the Earth as a unit does not match the generally accepted biological criteria for life itself, for example, there is no evidence to suggest that "Gaia" has reproduced. This argument is countered by the fact that mules do not reproduce, yet they are also classified as living.

And to play devil's advocate for a moment, if humans were to colonise Mars and terraform it, would that be considered "Gaia reproducing" in a sense?

Don't mind me, I'm just keeping the bonfire going... c:

[New Libertarian States]

What am I reading.....

[Regnum Dominae]

What am I reading.....

Bath salts.

[Zavea]

What am I reading.....

Bath salts.

if you look really closely, this entire thread is written in aramaic

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

So, assuming for a moment (Definition: moment - the amount of time one can dedicate to a subject without losing one's sanity) that there is a Gaia...

Is The Universe its father? Aunt? Alcoholic uncle that visits during the holidays?

[The Sector Union]

What am I reading.....

A hypothesis on a living, thinking Earth. But people want to talk about Adolf Hitler's scat fetish unfortunately.

[Antares XII]

So, assuming for a moment (Definition: moment - the amount of time one can dedicate to a subject without losing one's sanity) that there is a Gaia...

Is The Universe its father? Aunt? Alcoholic uncle that visits during the holidays?

Great^ⁿ grandfather, maybe.

this is only here so the bottom of the previous sentence doesn't get clipped off I swear

[Zavea]

So, assuming for a moment (Definition: moment - the amount of time one can dedicate to a subject without losing one's sanity) that there is a Gaia...

Is The Universe its father? Aunt? Alcoholic uncle that visits during the holidays?

you can find your answer in the final fantasy section of fanfiction.net

[New Libertarian States]

What am I reading.....

A hypothesis on a living, thinking Earth. But people want to talk about Adolf Hitler's scat fetish unfortunately.

If earth was living, it'd probably be telling us to get the hell off.

[Orham]

I aim to please. To be fair to TSU, the Gaia hypothesis (first link) has some scientific support these days. It's not much, and it's only in the vaguest and loosest sense, but it is valid:

The scientifically accepted form of the hypothesis has been called "influential Gaia". It states the biota influence certain aspects of the abiotic world, e.g. temperature and atmosphere. They state the evolution of life and its environment may affect each other. An example is how the activity of photosynthetic bacteria during Precambrian times have completely modified the Earth atmosphere to turn it aerobic, and as such supporting evolution of life (in particular eukaryotic life).

Biologists and Earth scientists usually view the factors that stabilize the characteristics of a period as an undirected emergent property or entelechy of the system; as each individual species pursues its own self-interest, for example, their combined actions may have counterbalancing effects on environmental change. Opponents of this view sometimes reference examples of events that resulted in dramatic change rather than stable equilibrium, such as the conversion of the Earth's atmosphere from a reducing environment to an oxygen-rich one.

Bingo, this is exactly what I'm saying is solid.

But I think the following paragraph might be closer to what TSU is after:

Fringe science versions of the hypothesis claim that changes in the biosphere are brought about through the coordination of living organisms and maintain those conditions through homeostasis. In Gaia philosophy, all lifeforms are considered part of one single living planetary being called Gaia. In this view, the atmosphere, the seas and the terrestrial crust would be results of interventions carried out by Gaia through the coevolving diversity of living organisms. However, the Earth as a unit does not match the generally accepted biological criteria for life itself, for example, there is no evidence to suggest that "Gaia" has reproduced. This argument is countered by the fact that mules do not reproduce, yet they are also classified as living.

Two for two, I think you've got it. Only TSU added telepathy for some reason. This is the part I said was nonsense.

And to play devil's advocate for a moment, if humans were to colonise Mars and terraform it, would that be considered "Gaia reproducing" in a sense?

My mind is reeling at such a concept. Would acceptance of this imply that the landing crew on Mars would bear the name "gamete", with the landing site being called a "gamete" as well? Would the act of landing on a new planet be henceforth called "fertilization", and the terraforming of a planet forever be called "gestation"? Or am I taking too human a spin on this thing? I don't even know anymore, it's that bizarre.

[Risottia]

Something always bothered me how I think of something, and seconds later another person next to me says the same exact thing what I was thinking of and we always think those moments are just coincidences.

No, it's pack behaviour and common thought patterns due to same environment and similar culture. Quite common in primates and other social animals.

So I thought that the Earth might be one huge organism

By weaseling and twisting the definition of organism enough, sure.

Too bad that it wouldn't have any meaning.

[Anachronous Rex]

In the sense that this potato could be super-intelligent, sure.

Or you've just been watching too much Japanese fiction.

[Risottia]

In the sense that this potato could be super-intelligent, sure.

Or you've just been watching too much Japanese fiction.

Clearly he hasn't been watching enough of it. There was no mention of tentacle porn in the OP.

[Forster Keys]

Man your threads....hahaha.

Agreed.

[AiliailiA]

Something always bothered me how I think of something, and seconds later another person next to me says the same exact thing what I was thinking of and we always think those moments are just coincidences. But it happens a lot as if all human beings are somewhat connected. So I thought that the Earth might be one huge organism and all the lesser organisms, the bacteria, the plants, animals everything including us are part of this huge global organism. Basically saying here the Earth might have a core brain, but not a brain we would be thinking of. The trees on this world serve a huge purpose. They breathe out oxygen for the animals and why do things like this work. The Earth is thinking. But we as humans are the only sapient animals . If you want to count dolphins.

But when concrete is poured on the ground, notice how it cracks and sometimes plants grow out. Nature is constantly fighting our artificial life style.

So do you think the Earth is somewhat telepathic, sapient or just a huge organism? Please have a sane discussion, no sillyness.

Wait a sec.

*goes outside*
*asks a tree*

No.

[Stovokor]

Something always bothered me how I think of something, and seconds later another person next to me says the same exact thing what I was thinking of and we always think those moments are just coincidences. But it happens a lot as if all human beings are somewhat connected. So I thought that the Earth might be one huge organism and all the lesser organisms, the bacteria, the plants, animals everything including us are part of this huge global organism. Basically saying here the Earth might have a core brain, but not a brain we would be thinking of. The trees on this world serve a huge purpose. They breathe out oxygen for the animals and why do things like this work. The Earth is thinking. But we as humans are the only sapient animals . If you want to count dolphins.

But when concrete is poured on the ground, notice how it cracks and sometimes plants grow out. Nature is constantly fighting our artificial life style.

So do you think the Earth is somewhat telepathic, sapient or just a huge organism? Please have a sane discussion, no sillyness.

Go to college, you need it. If you have already been, then it has failed you, and I deeply apologize in the name of higher education.