Should men have a choice in abortion?

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Are you saying that human beings (with the exception of a few rare individuals who have more) do not have 46 chromosomes?

Humans have eyes.
Dogs have eyes.
Thus, humans are dogs.


Logic.

Oh my God...

Div, I'm expecting a follow-up report on this by Monday.

[Frisivisia]

Stop being an asshole.

Stop dodging the truth.

You going to read it, or not?

I did, and I responded several times. The fact that you refuse to read it doesn't make it not so.

So, stop being an asshole.

[The Rich Port]

A man has a right to his body.

If he wants to abort the foetus he carries around, he has a right to.

[Shallowell]

Source? Objective proof?

The irony is delicious.

You never answered my question. Are you getting around to that, or are you ignoring it because you don't have an answer?

[Partially Blind People]

Yes, 14 other species have 46 chromosomes, but how many of them are involved in abortion and how many debate about whether the males of that species should have a say in that abortion? Enough digression.

[Sub Sector Protractis]

I believe a mam should have a say as the law requires him to give 25% of his earnings to the mother. If a man can't take part in choosing weather or not to keep the child then Tue law shouldn't require him to pay for the child.

[Divair]

Humans have eyes.
Dogs have eyes.
Thus, humans are dogs.


Logic.

Oh my God...

Div, I'm expecting a follow-up report on this by Monday.

There'll be mass self-blowjobs in the streets.

[Ovisterra]

The irony is delicious.

You never answered my question. Are you getting around to that, or are you ignoring it because you don't have an answer?

I answered it twice.

Sorry, wrong person. That was meant for Ovisterra. Too many people debating at once

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Explain how this is applied incorrectly.

For a start, I'm about 60% sure you just made it up.

Also, my above statement of fact proves that all abortions kill babies.
Therefore, any medical journal or anything I find pertaining to abortion will tell us that abortion kills babies.

Your statement didn't mention abortion. It said nothing about medical procedures. It's not proof.

[Divair]

Yes, 14 other species have 46 chromosomes, but how many of them are involved in abortion and how many debate about whether the males of that species should have a say in that abortion? Enough digression.

None. We evolved down one path, they evolved down another. We won.

[Frisivisia]

Yes, 14 other species have 46 chromosomes, but how many of them are involved in abortion and how many debate about whether the males of that species should have a say in that abortion? Enough digression.

So, what you're saying is that if a male sable antelope wants a female sable antelope to have a baby sable antelope against her will, it should be so?

[Ovisterra]

Yes, 14 other species have 46 chromosomes, but how many of them are involved in abortion and how many debate about whether the males of that species should have a say in that abortion? Enough digression.

How are they not human? You said that things with 46 chromosomes are human.

Are you saying you lied?

[Shallowell]

Stop dodging the truth.

You going to read it, or not?

I did, and I responded several times. The fact that you refuse to read it doesn't make it not so.

So, stop being an asshole.

You responded with falsehoods that clearly went against the definition. I read all of your responses, and they all claimed that something that was not true was.

So, again, I say, read the definition, learn what a baby is, and then you will understand my argument.

[Partially Blind People]

Idiot logic. When did I mention that humans having eyes made them human? I said that a because a foetus was made up of 46 human chromosomes that made it a full human. You can't make a poor argument by taking something that a person hasn't actually said out of context and then try to use it.

I never realized that Sable Antelopes were human.

How many sable antelopes have 46 human chromosomes?

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Yes, 14 other species have 46 chromosomes, but how many of them are involved in abortion and how many debate about whether the males of that species should have a say in that abortion? Enough digression.

[Frisivisia]

I did, and I responded several times. The fact that you refuse to read it doesn't make it not so.

So, stop being an asshole.

You responded with falsehoods that clearly went against the definition. I read all of your responses, and they all claimed that something that was not true was.

So, again, I say, read the definition, learn what a baby is, and then you will understand my argument.

So, again, stop being an asshole.

[Ifreann]

I never realized that Sable Antelopes were human.

How many sable antelopes have 46 human chromosomes?

How many times will you change your definition of human in the course of this conversation?

[Ovisterra]

I never realized that Sable Antelopes were human.

How many sable antelopes have 46 human chromosomes?

Zero.

Does that matter? No. Anything with 46 chromosomes is human. Your words, not mine:

Masturbation is genocide! Ovulation is manslaughter!

Neither is a full human being. A foetus contains the full 46 chromosomes and therefore is a full human being. I agree with abortion but only up 24 weeks when the baby has a 50% chance of survival outside of the womb.

[Divair]

Yes, 14 other species have 46 chromosomes, but how many of them are involved in abortion and how many debate about whether the males of that species should have a say in that abortion? Enough digression.

I'd like to hire them next.

[Eoghania]

A man shouldn't have a choice about whether or no a woman has an abortion, no. They should, however, have a choice on whether or not to be a father. A mother-to-be can choose not to be a mother by aborting. A father-to-be should be able to give up the rights and responsibilities of being a father, thus not become a father, in similar fashion.

[Partially Blind People]

How many sable antelopes have 46 human chromosomes?

How many times will you change your definition of human in the course of this conversation?

Once, I changed 46 chromosomes to 46 human chromosomes after I realised my mistake. That good enough for you?

Also, all of the people who quoted me (except whoever quoted me last because they did the quote when I was typing this message), quoted me saying that a foetus has 46 human chromosomes so I changed it quite a while ago.

[The Rich Port]

Or should it stay as it currently is and be solely the woman's choice whether to keep the baby or not? I know many people think it should be her to choice to carry to terminate because the baby develops inside of her. But personally I find this unfair, because my or whoever the man may be contributed just as much to creating the child as she did. How do you feel?

... Just as much?

So... Men can carry around foetuses for 9 months until they're born?

They get cramps, sudden needs to shit, exhaustion, AND the pain of birth to deal with?

I don't think so.

[The Archregimancy]

I would rather think it would very much depend on the nature of the relationship that produced the pregnancy.

Or has NSG completely abandoned nuance in favour of unwavering moral absolutes again?

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

I never realized that Sable Antelopes were human.

How many sable antelopes have 46 human chromosomes?

That wasn't your claim.

Neither is a full human being. A foetus contains the full 46 chromosomes and therefore is a full human being.

[Frisivisia]

I would rather think it would very much depend on the nature of the relationship that produced the pregnancy.

Or has NSG completely abandoned nuance in favour of unwavering moral absolutes again?

Does being married mean you waive your right to your body or something?

[Partially Blind People]

How many sable antelopes have 46 human chromosomes?

That wasn't your claim.

Neither is a full human being. A foetus contains the full 46 chromosomes and therefore is a full human being.

Yes, I know. Read my earlier post where I said I corrected myself.