Should men have a choice in abortion?

[Nationalist State of Knox]

What would aborting afterbirth even involve?

Infant is born -> infant is killed = after birth abortion

i.e. murder, not abortion.

Planned Parenthood even advocated for it, but retracted it after they realized people weren't going to fall for that.

Obama also possesses an elite manatee task force that occasionally act as his personal bodyguard.

I can lie too, you know.

[Partially Blind People]

Neither is a full human being. A foetus contains the full 46 chromosomes and therefore is a full human being.

I want a source on that being the definition of a human being because that stinks of bullshit to the point where my eyes are watering.

Are you saying that human beings (with the exception of a few rare individuals who have more) do not have 46 chromosomes?

[Shallowell]

Furthermore, I have no interest in controlling women's bodies.

Then you're in favor of abortion being 100% legal with no restrictions. Good.

Posting stupid responses doesn't make you seem smart

[Divair]

I want a source on that being the definition of a human being because that stinks of bullshit to the point where my eyes are watering.

Are you saying that human beings (with the exception of a few rare individuals who have more) do not have 46 chromosomes?

Humans have eyes.
Dogs have eyes.
Thus, humans are dogs.


Logic.

[Ovisterra]

What question?

Sorry, wrong person. That was meant for Ovisterra. Too many people debating at once

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[TBA Field Marshal]

Yes of course they should. If a woman agreed to have sexual intercourse with a man, then she bears as much responsibility as he does for the pregnancy. Therefore, the fact that she has to carry a baby for nine months does not give her the right to kill said man's child without his consent.

I agree.

[Frisivisia]

Infant is born -> infant is killed = after birth abortion

i.e. murder, not abortion.

Planned Parenthood even advocated for it, but retracted it after they realized people weren't going to fall for that.

Obama also possesses an elite manatee task force that occasionally act as his personal bodyguard.

I can lie too, you know.

He conveniently left out the "as a result of botched abortions" part.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

Then you're in favor of abortion being 100% legal with no restrictions. Good.

Posting stupid responses doesn't make you seem smart

So why do you do it then?

[Frisivisia]

Then you're in favor of abortion being 100% legal with no restrictions. Good.

Posting stupid responses doesn't make you seem smart

It doesn't. Why are you doing it?

[Shallowell]

You can't ignore the truth just because it doesn't fit your beliefs.

Also, there is no reason a foetus/ embryo cannot also be a baby.

Furthermore, I have no interest in controlling women's bodies. The child, while reliant on their mother while in the womb, is not part of their body, nor is it theirs to kill.

There is, in fact, a reason why a fetus cannot be a baby, it's called that's how words fucking work.

The fetus, not child, children have been born, is entirely dependent upon the mother's body, and she has the right, as a part of the right to her own body, to no longer have the fetus, not baby, attached to her body.

You didn't read the definition that I posted. Read it, and then come back when you know what you're talking about.

[Frisivisia]

Yes of course they should. If a woman agreed to have sexual intercourse with a man, then she bears as much responsibility as he does for the pregnancy. Therefore, the fact that she has to carry a baby for nine months does not give her the right to kill said man's child without his consent.

I agree.

You shouldn't, that's a really shitty line of thought.

[Frisivisia]

There is, in fact, a reason why a fetus cannot be a baby, it's called that's how words fucking work.

The fetus, not child, children have been born, is entirely dependent upon the mother's body, and she has the right, as a part of the right to her own body, to no longer have the fetus, not baby, attached to her body.

You didn't read the definition that I posted. Read it, and then come back when you know what you're talking about.

Stop being an asshole.

[Ovisterra]

I want a source on that being the definition of a human being because that stinks of bullshit to the point where my eyes are watering.

Are you saying that human beings (with the exception of a few rare individuals who have more) do not have 46 chromosomes?

No. I'm saying nothing of the sort.

Are you saying that these are human?

[Ifreann]

Infant is born -> infant is killed = after birth abortion

i.e. murder, not abortion.

Planned Parenthood even advocated for it, but retracted it after they realized people weren't going to fall for that.

Obama also possesses an elite manatee task force that occasionally act as his personal bodyguard.

I can lie too, you know.

Gotta say, I prefer your lies. Manatee bodyguards sound awesome.

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I want a source on that being the definition of a human being because that stinks of bullshit to the point where my eyes are watering.

Are you saying that human beings (with the exception of a few rare individuals who have more) do not have 46 chromosomes?

Lots of things have 46 chromosomes. They're not all human.

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Yes of course they should. If a woman agreed to have sexual intercourse with a man, then she bears as much responsibility as he does for the pregnancy. Therefore, the fact that she has to carry a baby for nine months does not give her the right to kill said man's child without his consent.

I agree.

Then you're both wrong.

[Shallowell]

Posting stupid responses doesn't make you seem smart

So why do you do it then?

Source? Objective proof?

[Zweite Alaje]

Infant is born -> infant is killed = after birth abortion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterbirth
Joke, head, etc.

Planned Parenthood even advocated for it, but retracted it after they realized people weren't going to fall for that.

I bet that's not true at all.

The space I left between "after" and "birth" was intentional.

Infant is born -> infant is killed = after birth abortion

Planned Parenthood even advocated for it, but retracted it after they realized people weren't going to fall for that.

With as much as you lie, how can you live with yourself?

I rarely lie, to do so unnecessarily is dishonorable.

[Partially Blind People]

Are you saying that human beings (with the exception of a few rare individuals who have more) do not have 46 chromosomes?

Humans have eyes.
Dogs have eyes.
Thus, humans are dogs.


Logic.

Idiot logic. When did I mention that humans having eyes made them human? I said that a because a foetus was made up of 46 human chromosomes that made it a full human. You can't make a poor argument by taking something that a person hasn't actually said out of context and then try to use it.

[Frisivisia]

So why do you do it then?

Source? Objective proof?

Non sequiter is non.

[Ovisterra]

So why do you do it then?

Source? Objective proof?

The irony is delicious.

[Ovisterra]

I said that a because a foetus was made up of 46 human chromosomes that made it a full human. .

Are you saying that these are human?

[Shallowell]

You didn't read the definition that I posted. Read it, and then come back when you know what you're talking about.

Stop being an asshole.

Stop dodging the truth.

You going to read it, or not?

[Frisivisia]

Humans have eyes.
Dogs have eyes.
Thus, humans are dogs.


Logic.

Idiot logic. When did I mention that humans having eyes made them human? I said that a because a foetus was made up of 46 human chromosomes that made it a full human. You can't make a poor argument by taking something that a person hasn't actually said out of context and then try to use it.

I never realized that Sable Antelopes were human.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

There is, in fact, a reason why a fetus cannot be a baby, it's called that's how words fucking work.

The fetus, not child, children have been born, is entirely dependent upon the mother's body, and she has the right, as a part of the right to her own body, to no longer have the fetus, not baby, attached to her body.

You didn't read the definition that I posted. Read it, and then come back when you know what you're talking about.

He did. Your definition is wrong.

baby

Type: Term
Pronunciation: bā′bē
Definitions:1. An infant; a newborn child.

Source

[Ifreann]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterbirth
Joke, head, etc.


I bet that's not true at all.

The space I left between "after" and "birth" was intentional.

As was the space I didn't. For the purposes of humour.

With as much as you lie, how can you live with yourself?

I rarely lie, to do so unnecessarily is dishonorable.

So when you said that Planned Parenthood advocated killing newborns, you were just wrong?

[Divair]

Humans have eyes.
Dogs have eyes.
Thus, humans are dogs.


Logic.

Idiot logic. When did I mention that humans having eyes made them human? I said that a because a foetus was made up of 46 human chromosomes that made it a full human. You can't make a poor argument by taking something that a person hasn't actually said out of context and then try to use it.

It's the same type of logic. Just because two things share something in common doesn't make them equal. It's a combination of a vast array of things that do. 46 chromosomes is not a vast array.