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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:02 am

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"Hey guys, let's consider, you know, keeping the human population within sustainable limits by birth control" is not the same as "OMG BIRTH BAD NO BIRTH EVER!111!".



It saddens me that someone wrote this sentence.


BS, what is a "sustainable population"? That isn't what abortion is about, it's about "choice" of which their isn't much, you know with people like "Planned Parenthood" advertising the supposed inherent good of abortion, and people like Loretta Ross encouraging anti-family hedonist lifestyles.

Planned Parenthood was founded by an evil woman as remains an evil organization to this day.

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Postby Shallowell » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:02 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Shallowell wrote:Because it is bad

Explain why.

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Abortion kills babies.

Babies are good.

Anything that reduces the amount of somethin good is bad.

Therefore, abortion is bad.


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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:03 am

Shallowell wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Explain why.

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Abortion kills babies.

Babies are good.

Anything that reduces the amount of somethin good is bad.

Therefore, abortion is bad.

No abortion has ever killed a baby, ever.
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:03 am

Shallowell wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Explain why.

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Abortion kills babies.


No, it removes fetuses from wombs. Nothing more.

Babies are good.


So I take it you've never actually met any babies?
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:04 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Shallowell wrote:(Also to Ovisterra)

Abortion kills babies.


No, it removes fetuses from wombs. Nothing more.

Babies are good.


So I take it you've never actually met any babies?

Babies are good. With barbeque sauce and some chips.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:05 am

Shallowell wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Explain why.

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Abortion kills babies.

Babies are good.

Anything that reduces the amount of somethin good is bad.

Therefore, abortion is bad.

Foetuses don't satisfy the scientific criteria for being babies.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:05 am

Shallowell wrote:
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BS, what is a "sustainable population"? That isn't what abortion is about, it's about "choice" of which their isn't much, you know with people like "Planned Parenthood" advertising the supposed inherent good of abortion, and people like Loretta Ross encouraging anti-family hedonist lifestyles.

Planned Parenthood was founded by an evil woman as remains an evil organization to this day.

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Uh...hi? I don't believe we've met.

Frisivisia wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
BS, what is a "sustainable population"? That isn't what abortion is about, it's about "choice" of which their isn't much, you know with people like "Planned Parenthood" advertising the supposed inherent good of abortion, and people like Loretta Ross encouraging anti-family hedonist lifestyles.

Planned Parenthood was founded by an evil woman as remains an evil organization to this day.

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Postby Shallowell » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:06 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Shallowell wrote:(Also to Ovisterra)

Abortion kills babies.

Babies are good.

Anything that reduces the amount of somethin good is bad.

Therefore, abortion is bad.

No abortion has ever killed a baby, ever.

This is wrong


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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:06 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
No, it removes fetuses from wombs. Nothing more.



So I take it you've never actually met any babies?

Babies are good. With barbeque sauce and some chips.

Reminds me of a time a few years ago...
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:06 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Shallowell wrote:I think I love you.

Uh...hi? I don't believe we've met.

Frisivisia wrote:DUHJENUHRITS.

Yes, quite.

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Postby Shallowell » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:06 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
No, it removes fetuses from wombs. Nothing more.



So I take it you've never actually met any babies?

Babies are good. With barbeque sauce and some chips.

That escalated quickly


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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:06 am

Shallowell wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:No abortion has ever killed a baby, ever.

This is wrong

That is fact. No abortion has ever killed a baby or ever will kill a baby.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:07 am

Shallowell wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Babies are good. With barbeque sauce and some chips.

That escalated quickly

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Postby Shallowell » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:09 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Shallowell wrote:I think I love you.

Uh...hi? I don't believe we've met.

By that, I mean you echo my views superbly on this subject.


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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:09 am

Shallowell wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:No abortion has ever killed a baby, ever.

This is wrong


Source on abortion killing babies, then?
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Postby Shallowell » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:10 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Shallowell wrote:That escalated quickly

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I'll freely admit that


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Postby Republik auf Texas » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:10 am

Yes they are equal in the creation of that child.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:10 am

Shallowell wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:No abortion has ever killed a baby, ever.

This is wrong

From a medical dictionary:

baby

Type: Term

Pronunciation: bā′bē
Definitions:
1. An infant; a newborn child.


A foetus/embryo is unborn.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:12 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Shallowell wrote:This is wrong

That is fact. No abortion has ever killed a baby or ever will kill a baby.

The process, indeed, does kill many potential babies- one with more potential to become a baby, at least, than a spermatazoa or a ova by itself.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:12 am

Republik auf Texas wrote:Yes they are equal in the creation of that child.

The man has the opportunity to use a condom and prevent the birth for the time he's involved in making the pregnancy. The woman's window is just longer.
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Postby Algonquin Ascendancy » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:12 am

Shallowell wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Why?

Because it is bad

No, it isn't. Forcing women to bear pregnancies against their will is bad.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:12 am

The Godly Nations wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:That is fact. No abortion has ever killed a baby or ever will kill a baby.

The process, indeed, does kill many potential babies- one with more potential to become a baby, at least, than a spermatazoa or a ova by itself.

But it does not kill babies, because what's being killed is not a baby.
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Postby Partially Blind People » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:12 am

Yes, they contributed half of the DNA and it is their child as well. Even if the woman is carrying the child, the man still has a say in what happens to his future child.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:13 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Republik auf Texas wrote:Yes they are equal in the creation of that child.

The man has the opportunity to use a condom and prevent the birth for the time he's involved in making the pregnancy. The woman's window is just longer.


So, you mean to tell me that women are not allowed to use female condoms or other forms of contraceptives?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:13 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Uh...hi? I don't believe we've met.


Yes, quite.

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Really Fris?

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Shallowell wrote:This is wrong

From a medical dictionary:

baby

Type: Term

Pronunciation: bā′bē
Definitions:
1. An infant; a newborn child.

A foetus/embryo is unborn.

After birth abortions.
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