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Postby Perryapsis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:48 pm

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:49 pm

Perryapsis wrote:I would not tolerate my wife killing my kid(s). It would not be dependent on whether the child had been born yet or whether she legally needed my consent.

Just my two cents.


Again when will scientist build seahorse wombs so abortion can be a non issue? ( mostly).
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:58 pm

Perryapsis wrote:I would not tolerate my wife killing my kid(s). It would not be dependent on whether the child had been born yet or whether she legally needed my consent.

Just my two cents.

Well then I hope that you never marry a woman who decides that her body is her own and not yours.
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Postby Bodobol » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:59 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Perryapsis wrote:I would not tolerate my wife killing my kid(s). It would not be dependent on whether the child had been born yet or whether she legally needed my consent.

Just my two cents.

Well then I hope that you never marry a woman who decides that her body is her own and not yours.


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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Perryapsis wrote:I would not tolerate my wife killing my kid(s). It would not be dependent on whether the child had been born yet or whether she legally needed my consent.

Just my two cents.

Well then I hope that you never marry a woman who decides that her body is her own and not yours.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if he does and she shits all over him in a metaphorical sense?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:06 pm

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Ifreann wrote:If it's more the woman's than the man's then it's essentially just the woman's.

But Ifreann, men own women. Didn't you know?

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:08 pm

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Well then I hope that you never marry a woman who decides that her body is her own and not yours.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if he does and she shits all over him in a metaphorical sense?

I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:12 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Condunum wrote:Wouldn't it be wonderful if he does and she shits all over him in a metaphorical sense?

I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.


That's a bit heated isn't it? I expect the woman would know his attitude, and if she married him anyway, and she wanted an abortion for some reason ... she just wouldn't tell him.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:14 pm

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.


My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.


If you think of children as property, you're a supporter of slavery. Perhaps you're not ashamed of that?
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:14 pm

Perryapsis wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.


My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.

Because women are just walking incubators, amirite?

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:16 pm

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.


My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.

1. No one, child or not, has the right to inhabit someone else's body without their permission, so the removal of the fetus has to be legal. Because a fetus at 8-12 weeks, when up to 90% of abortions are preformed, cannot survive outside of the womb, death of the fetus is a side-effect. Now, i you suggest that the fetus has a right to live, you assert that women don't get a right to control their own body, and you assert that any man who impregnates a woman without her consent to pregnancy effectively gets to remove her rights to her body.
2. It's in her body, you don't have a fucking right to anything inside of her. You want "rights" to something, go buy a dog.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:16 pm

Dakini wrote:
Perryapsis wrote:
My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.

Because women are just walking incubators, amirite?


And Seahorses wonder why Human Men are such a tizzy over abortion. Especially when 100% of Human men cannot even get pregnant.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:20 pm

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Dakini wrote:Because women are just walking incubators, amirite?


And Seahorses wonder why Human Men are such a tizzy over abortion. Especially when 100% of Human men cannot even get pregnant.

Well, Men*.
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Postby Bodobol » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:21 pm

Perryapsis wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.


My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.


Well then don't fuck her if you thing she's gonna get an abortion.

Or, ya know, just let her control her own body.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:24 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Benuty wrote:
And Seahorses wonder why Human Men are such a tizzy over abortion. Especially when 100% of Human men cannot even get pregnant.

Well, Men*.


That was actually a backhanded insult.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:26 pm

Benuty wrote:
Dakini wrote:Because women are just walking incubators, amirite?


And Seahorses wonder why Human Men are such a tizzy over abortion. Especially when 100% of Human men cannot even get pregnant.

Well, there was that transgendered guy a while ago...

Generally, this is true though.

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Postby Rationallia » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:28 pm

My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.
1. No one, child or not, has the right to inhabit someone else's body without their permission, so the removal of the fetus has to be legal. Because a fetus at 8-12 weeks, when up to 90% of abortions are preformed, cannot survive outside of the womb, death of the fetus is a side-effect. Now, i you suggest that the fetus has a right to live, you assert that women don't get a right to control their own body, and you assert that any man who impregnates a woman without her consent to pregnancy effectively gets to remove her rights to her body.
2. It's in her body, you don't have a fucking right to anything inside of her. You want "rights" to something, go buy a dog.


I think that the baby has the right to life, and i'm sorry but life>personal freedom in this situation. Besides once born the mother doesn't have to take care of the baby, she can send it to foster parents or an orphanage or whatever.


Also all this talk about how men should be more careful about where they put their s3m3n (sorry, its a monitored computer), shouldn't women also be careful about how they use their bodies and accept that itn3rcourse can lead to pregnancy and accept the consequences of that?

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Postby The USOT » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:30 pm

Perryapsis wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.


My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.

Sure when its a child. When its a parasite, no it has no rights.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:31 pm

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Perryapsis wrote:
My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.

Sure when its a child. When its a parasite, no it has no rights.


That is such a distateful thing to say, thank you for ruining my late night snack :lol2:
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:31 pm

Rationallia wrote:
My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.
1. No one, child or not, has the right to inhabit someone else's body without their permission, so the removal of the fetus has to be legal. Because a fetus at 8-12 weeks, when up to 90% of abortions are preformed, cannot survive outside of the womb, death of the fetus is a side-effect. Now, i you suggest that the fetus has a right to live, you assert that women don't get a right to control their own body, and you assert that any man who impregnates a woman without her consent to pregnancy effectively gets to remove her rights to her body.
2. It's in her body, you don't have a fucking right to anything inside of her. You want "rights" to something, go buy a dog.


I think that the baby has the right to life, and i'm sorry but life>personal freedom in this situation. Besides once born the mother doesn't have to take care of the baby, she can send it to foster parents or an orphanage or whatever.


Also all this talk about how men should be more careful about where they put their s3m3n (sorry, its a monitored computer), shouldn't women also be careful about how they use their bodies and accept that itn3rcourse can lead to pregnancy and accept the consequences of that?

How is an abortion not a consequence of an unplanned pregnancy?

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Postby Bodobol » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:31 pm

Rationallia wrote:
My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.
1. No one, child or not, has the right to inhabit someone else's body without their permission, so the removal of the fetus has to be legal. Because a fetus at 8-12 weeks, when up to 90% of abortions are preformed, cannot survive outside of the womb, death of the fetus is a side-effect. Now, i you suggest that the fetus has a right to live, you assert that women don't get a right to control their own body, and you assert that any man who impregnates a woman without her consent to pregnancy effectively gets to remove her rights to her body.
2. It's in her body, you don't have a fucking right to anything inside of her. You want "rights" to something, go buy a dog.


I think that the baby has the right to life, and i'm sorry but life>personal freedom in this situation. Besides once born the mother doesn't have to take care of the baby, she can send it to foster parents or an orphanage or whatever.


Also all this talk about how men should be more careful about where they put their s3m3n (sorry, its a monitored computer), shouldn't women also be careful about how they use their bodies and accept that itn3rcourse can lead to pregnancy and accept the consequences of that?


I think adoption>abortion, but I don't believe abortion should be illegal. I'm not going to try to debate with you too much though, because I don't know a whole ton about abortion, to be perfectly honest. I just think a woman has the right to choose.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:32 pm

Perryapsis wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I hope she does, and rips him eight new assholes for asserting that his right to her womb exists, let alone is more powerful than her own right to her womb.


My issue is with my child's right to live, and my right to my child.

Sure, a child has the right to live. By law. And by law, a fetus is not a child.

Also, you have no right to your child. No one has a right to their child, that implies property. You have a responsibility to children in your care.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:33 pm

Bodobol wrote:I think adoption>abortion,

I don't know many people who would disagree with you on this, but like you said, and like most of us seem to agree, it is her choice.
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