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Should he have been acquited?

I don't even
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Choronzon
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:39 am

Xsyne wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And The Real Killer is still out there somewhere.

No, no. OJ killed her, it just wasn't murder because she didn't explicitly not consent to being killed.

It was some other, lesser crime that is just like murder but somehow completely different, and its wrong to call him a murderer for committing totally not murder but was kinda murder.

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St James
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Postby St James » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:40 am

Frisivisia wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:We wouldn't have had a trial as she would have shot back. :lol2:

Everyone knows that guns offer an invisible shield of protection from bullets!


That is why everyone needs a gun, to protect us from those mean people with . . . wait . . . guns! :P

To keep on topic, the only thing I have to say: No.
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Neo Art
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:40 am

Choronzon wrote:
Xsyne wrote:No, no. OJ killed her, it just wasn't murder because she didn't explicitly not consent to being killed.

It was some other, lesser crime that is just like murder but somehow completely different, and its wrong to call him a murderer for committing totally not murder but was kinda murder.


Now you got it! It's totally like murder but not, so you can't call him a murderer! SO THERE!
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:40 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Pillea wrote:
Only by reasonable people.


Right like those reasonable lynch mobs who tracked down those darkies who escaped justice through the loophole that they hadn't actually done anything wrong.

Nigger shouldn't have taken my carpet lint.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Right like those reasonable lynch mobs who tracked down those darkies who escaped justice through the loophole that they hadn't actually done anything wrong.

Nigger shouldn't have taken my carpet lint.


He shouldn't have taken your woman's carpet lint you mean.
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Des-Bal
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:42 am

If at any point the gang feels like ending the threadjack and starting a rape thread I'd be happy to engage in a discussion about consent there.
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Neo Art
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Right like those reasonable lynch mobs who tracked down those darkies who escaped justice through the loophole that they hadn't actually done anything wrong.

Nigger shouldn't have taken my carpet lint.


i'm sure some of those slaves escaping the plantation in the middle of the night picked up some dirt on their feet from master's farm on their way across the mississippi.
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Choronzon
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:43 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nigger shouldn't have taken my carpet lint.


He shouldn't have taken your woman's carpet lint you mean.

Are you implying women can own property?

Get out.

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Neo Art
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:43 am

Choronzon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
He shouldn't have taken your woman's carpet lint you mean.

Are you implying women can own property?

Get out.


No, they can have the absence of an affirmative non ownership of it however.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:43 am

Choronzon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
He shouldn't have taken your woman's carpet lint you mean.

Are you implying women can own property?

Get out.


Your woman, your carpet lint.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:45 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nigger shouldn't have taken my carpet lint.


He shouldn't have taken your woman's carpet lint you mean.

Same thing.


Neo Art wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nigger shouldn't have taken my carpet lint.


i'm sure some of those slaves escaping the plantation in the middle of the night picked up some dirt on their feet from master's farm on their way across the mississippi.

If not bits of cotton stuck to their clothes.

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Choronzon
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:45 am

Neo Art wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Are you implying women can own property?

Get out.


No, they can have the absence of an affirmative non ownership of it however.

That hurt my brain a little.

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Pillea
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Postby Pillea » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:48 am

Choronzon wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
No, they can have the absence of an affirmative non ownership of it however.

That hurt my brain a little.


Makes ya wonder how people live on that logic eh? Do they just walk around with perpetual migraines?
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Neo Art
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:51 am

Choronzon wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
No, they can have the absence of an affirmative non ownership of it however.

That hurt my brain a little.


How do you think it felt writing it?
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:52 am

Neo Art wrote:
Choronzon wrote:That hurt my brain a little.


How do you think it felt writing it?

A bit like passing a kidney stone, I'd imagine.

A really, really stupid kidney stone.

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Starkiller101
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Postby Starkiller101 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:52 am

thats fucked up
Roll tide. Your local ''Floridman'' who should have left long ago xD

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Des-Bal
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:53 am

So no? We're just going to keep doing the derailey circle-jerky thing? That's unfortunate, the thread was interesting.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
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Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:00 am

Des-Bal wrote:So no? We're just going to keep doing the derailey circle-jerky thing? That's unfortunate, the thread was interesting.

No it wasn't. It stopped being interesting when you shut down your brain and screamed "SOURC3!?! WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE!?!?!" while ignoring every single attempt to explain jurisprudence to you. YOU created the circle jerk the moment you posted.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Choronzon
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:01 am

Des-Bal wrote:So no? We're just going to keep doing the derailey circle-jerky thing? That's unfortunate, the thread was interesting.

I mean, we've sort of reached a point where on one side people are saying, "Holy shit, this guy killed a woman over $150 because she didn't bang him."

And on the other side you have people saying, "Fuck that whore, he was just recovering his property. She owed him sex, because she was a woman and he gave her money. Bitches don't know 'bout my Glock."

So no, we don't really feel the need to continue the conversation with you.
Mavorpen wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:So no? We're just going to keep doing the derailey circle-jerky thing? That's unfortunate, the thread was interesting.

No it wasn't. It stopped being interesting when you shut down your brain and screamed "SOURC3!?! WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE!?!?!" while ignoring every single attempt to explain jurisprudence to you. YOU created the circle jerk the moment you posted.

You mean talking to walls isn't fun for you?
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:04 am

Mavorpen wrote:No it wasn't. It stopped being interesting when you shut down your brain and screamed "SOURC3!?! WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE!?!?!" while ignoring every single attempt to explain jurisprudence to you. YOU created the circle jerk the moment you posted.


How dare I expect you to have evidence to back up the wild assed assertion the funds offered in an illegal transaction legally belong to the party they were offered to.

This is not a misunderstanding, I am asking for evidence which you refuse to admit you don't have.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:04 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:So no? We're just going to keep doing the derailey circle-jerky thing? That's unfortunate, the thread was interesting.

No it wasn't. It stopped being interesting when you shut down your brain and screamed "SOURC3!?! WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE!?!?!" while ignoring every single attempt to explain jurisprudence to you. YOU created the circle jerk the moment you posted.

In fairness, is it really a circlejerk with just one person?

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Choronzon
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:05 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No it wasn't. It stopped being interesting when you shut down your brain and screamed "SOURC3!?! WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE!?!?!" while ignoring every single attempt to explain jurisprudence to you. YOU created the circle jerk the moment you posted.


How dare I expect you to have evidence to back up the wild assed assertion the funds offered in an illegal transaction legally belong to the party they were offered to.

This is not a misunderstanding, I am asking for evidence which you refuse to admit you don't have.

You know, its ok to just not understand somthing sometimes and admit that. Its how you learn.

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Choronzon
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:05 am

Ifreann wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No it wasn't. It stopped being interesting when you shut down your brain and screamed "SOURC3!?! WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE!?!?!" while ignoring every single attempt to explain jurisprudence to you. YOU created the circle jerk the moment you posted.

In fairness, is it really a circlejerk with just one person?

One person can move in a circle.

One person jacking off while frantically dancing in a circle is actually a really good analogy for Des-bal's stance.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:09 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No it wasn't. It stopped being interesting when you shut down your brain and screamed "SOURC3!?! WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE!?!?!" while ignoring every single attempt to explain jurisprudence to you. YOU created the circle jerk the moment you posted.


How dare I expect you to have evidence to back up the wild assed assertion the funds offered in an illegal transaction legally belong to the party they were offered to.

This is not a misunderstanding, I am asking for evidence which you refuse to admit you don't have.

That is certainly a misunderstanding, because it assumes that the law works in a way it doesn't. If you were in a courtroom and said, "LUL SOURCE!?!" in the form of EXPLICITLY SPECIFIC laws made by your opponent every time they make a claim, you wouldn't be taken seriously. There's something called inductive reasoning. You, for whatever reason, refuse to use it to mask your ignorance of the subject at hand.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Des-Bal
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:11 am

Mavorpen wrote:That is certainly a misunderstanding, because it assumes that the law works in a way it doesn't. If you were in a courtroom and said, "LUL SOURCE!?!" in the form of EXPLICITLY SPECIFIC laws made by your opponent every time they make a claim, you wouldn't be taken seriously. There's something called inductive reasoning. You, for whatever reason, refuse to use it to mask your ignorance of the subject at hand.


You are LITERALLY asking me to take your word as law. There are probably ways to be less reasonable but off the top of my head I can't think of any.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

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