Regarding Rape Culture: Its Presence and Method of Attack

[Saint Jade IV]

He was pretending?

I mean, he wasn't really fooling anyone, but he was giving it a try.

Not a very good one.

[Cenetra]

No, I just stopped giving a shit arguing with clearly biased people.

Funny thing, Neo Art's only major bias is towards the law.

You know... Cause it's his fucking job to know what it is.

Funny thing, he doesn't seem to understand presumption of innocence very well.

[Neo Art]

Funny thing, Neo Art's only major bias is towards the law.

You know... Cause it's his fucking job to know what it is.

Funny thing, he doesn't seem to understand presumption of innocence very well.

You're AWFUL at this.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Funny thing, Neo Art's only major bias is towards the law.

You know... Cause it's his fucking job to know what it is.

Funny thing, he doesn't seem to understand presumption of innocence very well.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

(Hint: the presumption of innocence is a thing COURTS do during TRIALS! Not actually a thing where private citizens are required to pretend that anyone not convicted of a crime did not commit that crime! Trying to smack down a lawyer while lacking even this most incredibly basic understanding of the law does not actually make you look smart!)

[Neo Art]

Funny thing, he doesn't seem to understand presumption of innocence very well.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

(Hint: the presumption of innocence is a thing COURTS do during TRIALS! Not actually a thing where private citizens are required to pretend that anyone not convicted of a crime did not commit that crime! Trying to smack down a lawyer while lacking even this most incredibly basic understanding of the law does not actually make you look smart!)

ignoring that, there's a certain irony about complaining that presuming a person charged with rape is probably a rapist violates a presumption of innocence but no such concern exists when claiming the victim probably
Iied. I'll leave it to our more astute readers to determine how.

[Individuality-ness]

You know other cultures actually consider Rape an essential part of the Courting Process of marriage. Hmm the more you know.

Hmm... I don't see how that justifies anything...

It doesn't.

[Condunum]

Hmm... I don't see how that justifies anything...

It doesn't.

Indeed. Just because it's part of a culture doesn't make it better.

[Cenetra]

Funny thing, he doesn't seem to understand presumption of innocence very well.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

(Hint: the presumption of innocence is a thing COURTS do during TRIALS! Not actually a thing where private citizens are required to pretend that anyone not convicted of a crime did not commit that crime! Trying to smack down a lawyer while lacking even this most incredibly basic understanding of the law does not actually make you look smart!)

Trying to claim I don't know the difference between court proceedings and public opinion is stretching it. No, presumption of innocence by the general public is not legally required. However, "It doesn't matter what the courts say, everyone's guilty" seems more like the words of a lynch mob than a lawyer.

Also, I don't see a huge difference between irrationally assuming that accusers are always lying and defendants are always innocent and irrationally assuming that accusers are always truthful and defendants are always guilty.

[Condunum]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

(Hint: the presumption of innocence is a thing COURTS do during TRIALS! Not actually a thing where private citizens are required to pretend that anyone not convicted of a crime did not commit that crime! Trying to smack down a lawyer while lacking even this most incredibly basic understanding of the law does not actually make you look smart!)

Trying to claim I don't know the difference between court proceedings and public opinion is stretching it. No, presumption of innocence by the general public is not legally required. However, "It doesn't matter what the courts say, everyone's guilty" seems more like the words of a lynch mob than a lawyer.

Also, I don't see a huge difference between irrationally assuming that accusers are always lying and defendants are always innocent and irrationally assuming that accusers are always truthful and defendants are always guilty.

Who here is dealing in absolutes? Go ahead... Name them.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

(Hint: the presumption of innocence is a thing COURTS do during TRIALS! Not actually a thing where private citizens are required to pretend that anyone not convicted of a crime did not commit that crime! Trying to smack down a lawyer while lacking even this most incredibly basic understanding of the law does not actually make you look smart!)

Trying to claim I don't know the difference between court proceedings and public opinion is stretching it. No, presumption of innocence by the general public is not legally required. However, "It doesn't matter what the courts say, everyone's guilty" seems more like the words of a lynch mob than a lawyer.

...yes, that's true. Good thing the lawyer in question didn't say anything resembling that, then!

Also, I don't see a huge difference between irrationally assuming that accusers are always lying and defendants are always innocent and irrationally assuming that accusers are always truthful and defendants are always guilty.

Well, one difference is that one of them is significantly closer to being accurate than the other.

Luckily, what they both have in common is that they both bear absolutely no resemblance to anything Neo Art said.

[Cenetra]

ignoring that, there's a certain irony about complaining that presuming a person charged with rape is probably a rapist violates a presumption of innocence but no such concern exists when claiming the victim probably
Iied. I'll leave it to our more astute readers to determine how.

Alex, I'll take "Things Cenetra Never Said" for $600.

[Condunum]

ignoring that, there's a certain irony about complaining that presuming a person charged with rape is probably a rapist violates a presumption of innocence but no such concern exists when claiming the victim probably
Iied. I'll leave it to our more astute readers to determine how.

Alex, I'll take "Things Cenetra Never Said" for $600.

Big talk coming from someone who can't pay attention to what people are saying and also constructs their own strawmen.

[Neo Art]

ignoring that, there's a certain irony about complaining that presuming a person charged with rape is probably a rapist violates a presumption of innocence but no such concern exists when claiming the victim probably
Iied. I'll leave it to our more astute readers to determine how.

Alex, I'll take "Things Cenetra Never Said" for $600.

What is "something smart" Alex.

[Cannot think of a name]

Alex, I'll take "Things Cenetra Never Said" for $600.

What is "something smart" Alex.

Not letting the moral of Casey at the Bat get past you and swinging at bloopies?

[Individuality-ness]

This article regarding the song "Blurred Lines" popped up in my news feed. Figured it'd be appropriate to share it here.

For reference, here are the lyrics to "Blurred Lines"

[Cannot think of a name]

This article regarding the song "Blurred Lines" popped up in my news feed. Figured it'd be appropriate to share it here.

For reference, here are the lyrics to "Blurred Lines"

Okay...so...the article said "NSFW" enough times for me to go look that video up (which, true to it's billing is not something that can be linked here)...because, apparently, I'm still suggestion's bitch...

Alright, rapey lyrics aside...

...holy shit is that guy trying too hard. I mean, just getting past the giant screen dominating insistence that I apparently tweet #thicke for some reason...that kind of overt sexual posturing is the kind of thing you usually find from someone who eventually ends up being caught having sex with other men in a park bathroom.

I mean christ...and if the overwhelming insecurities weren't enough, two thirds of the way through the music video there's balloons spelling out "Robin Thicke has a big dick"...I mean, for fuck's sake, buy a Corvette like a normal person.

Good lord, that was an uncomfortable two and half minutes.

[Individuality-ness]

This article regarding the song "Blurred Lines" popped up in my news feed. Figured it'd be appropriate to share it here.

For reference, here are the lyrics to "Blurred Lines"

Okay...so...the article said "NSFW" enough times for me to go look that video up (which, true to it's billing is not something that can be linked here)...because, apparently, I'm still suggestion's bitch...

Alright, rapey lyrics aside...

...holy shit is that guy trying too hard. I mean, just getting past the giant screen dominating insistence that I apparently tweet #thicke for some reason...that kind of overt sexual posturing is the kind of thing you usually find from someone who eventually ends up being caught having sex with other men in a park bathroom.

I mean christ...and if the overwhelming insecurities weren't enough, two thirds of the way through the music video there's balloons spelling out "Robin Thicke has a big dick"...I mean, for fuck's sake, buy a Corvette like a normal person.

Good lord, that was an uncomfortable two and half minutes.

At some point I just switched tabs, I couldn't watch the video anymore. I wasn't even watching the NSFW one, and I couldn't stand it.

[Cannot think of a name]

Okay...so...the article said "NSFW" enough times for me to go look that video up (which, true to it's billing is not something that can be linked here)...because, apparently, I'm still suggestion's bitch...

Alright, rapey lyrics aside...

...holy shit is that guy trying too hard. I mean, just getting past the giant screen dominating insistence that I apparently tweet #thicke for some reason...that kind of overt sexual posturing is the kind of thing you usually find from someone who eventually ends up being caught having sex with other men in a park bathroom.

I mean christ...and if the overwhelming insecurities weren't enough, two thirds of the way through the music video there's balloons spelling out "Robin Thicke has a big dick"...I mean, for fuck's sake, buy a Corvette like a normal person.

Good lord, that was an uncomfortable two and half minutes.

At some point I just switched tabs, I couldn't watch the video anymore. I wasn't even watching the NSFW one, and I couldn't stand it.

The only way the NSFW one could be any better is if you're a fan of boobs. Which, to be fair, I am. However, it pretty quickly makes you feel uncomfortable for liking boobs because you find yourself going, "Wait...am...am I like that?" Like when you make an offhand comment about someone looking nice today and the skeezy dude next to you goes, "I'd hit that, right?" and now you feel creepy by association.

[Individuality-ness]

At some point I just switched tabs, I couldn't watch the video anymore. I wasn't even watching the NSFW one, and I couldn't stand it.

The only way the NSFW one could be any better is if you're a fan of boobs. Which, to be fair, I am. However, it pretty quickly makes you feel uncomfortable for liking boobs because you find yourself going, "Wait...am...am I like that?" Like when you make an offhand comment about someone looking nice today and the skeezy dude next to you goes, "I'd hit that, right?" and now you feel creepy by association.

Okay. I forced myself to look at the SFW video. I put it on mute because I heard the song once, I wanted to keep my dignity.

Holy fuck. I felt as if the women in the video were being used as ornaments.

[Cannot think of a name]

The only way the NSFW one could be any better is if you're a fan of boobs. Which, to be fair, I am. However, it pretty quickly makes you feel uncomfortable for liking boobs because you find yourself going, "Wait...am...am I like that?" Like when you make an offhand comment about someone looking nice today and the skeezy dude next to you goes, "I'd hit that, right?" and now you feel creepy by association.

Okay. I forced myself to look at the SFW video. I put it on mute because I heard the song once, I wanted to keep my dignity.

Holy fuck. I felt as if the women in the video were being used as ornaments.

"as if"? It wouldn't have been any clearer if they had been hooked to the branches of a pine tree with tinsel.

[Individuality-ness]

Okay. I forced myself to look at the SFW video. I put it on mute because I heard the song once, I wanted to keep my dignity.

Holy fuck. I felt as if the women in the video were being used as ornaments.

"as if"? It wouldn't have been any clearer if they had been hooked to the branches of a pine tree with tinsel.

This isn't even getting into the lyrics either. Fuck, I took a look at them. That is some creepy shit.

[Cannot think of a name]

"as if"? It wouldn't have been any clearer if they had been hooked to the branches of a pine tree with tinsel.

This isn't even getting into the lyrics either. Fuck, I took a look at them. That is some creepy shit.

Huffing "I know you want it"...it's like a date rape anthem.

[Individuality-ness]

This isn't even getting into the lyrics either. Fuck, I took a look at them. That is some creepy shit.

Huffing "I know you want it"...it's like a date rape anthem.

"I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me"

Holy fuck at the second half of the verse. It's basically implying that a girl's actions means that she wants to have sex with the speaker, and that the speaker knows she wants it... without even asking her.

[Anachronous Rex]

Huffing "I know you want it"...it's like a date rape anthem.

"I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me"

Holy fuck at the second half of the verse. It's basically implying that a girl's actions means that she wants to have sex with the speaker, and that the speaker knows she wants it... without even asking her.

In fairness... yeah, that happens.

You still ask, of course. Wishful thinking is a thing.

[Individuality-ness]

"I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me"

Holy fuck at the second half of the verse. It's basically implying that a girl's actions means that she wants to have sex with the speaker, and that the speaker knows she wants it... without even asking her.

In fairness... yeah, that happens.

You still ask, of course. Wishful thinking is a thing.

I know that, and then you couple the lyrics with the video in which the women are simply dancing ornaments.