Regarding Rape Culture: Its Presence and Method of Attack

[The Blaatschapen]

I'd argue that rape inherently injures the victim mentally.

Yes, but one has to wonder if it is societies perception of rape-victims or the actual act of rape itself.

Both. And battling rape culture will result in at least removing the injury of societies perception of rape victims.

[Cenetra]

I'd argue that rape inherently injures the victim mentally.

Yes, but one has to wonder if it is societies perception of rape-victims or the actual act of rape itself.

sigh... sure is summer around here.

[Esternial]

So can anyone give a non-moral argument as to why rape is bad?

Mental (or even physical) trauma inflicted upon the victim which may inhibit their ability to function properly as a productive member of our society?

C'mon, give me something harder. That particular slice of bullshit was weak, man.

[Genivaria]

Every time I peruse this thread, I get a little hope that the information is getting through to some. Then I read posts like this one:

Not necessarily. Our modern society has elevated rape to be just as bad (if not worse then) as murder. So what if you legalized rape & created laws that the victim could not be injured, would that not work better?
I'm not necessarily saying that we should, I'm just pointing out that it would would probably be a pretty damn effective solution.

... and my hopes are dashed to shit.

I'm not convinced he's not just the T word.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

We have a society that Glorifies Sex. It's a Sex Culture. The acceptability of rape, is an inherent result from the De-Moralization of sex in culture. When Sex no longer has any Morality ascribed to it, Rape no longer has any intrinsic meaning. It becomes no worse than anything else.

An it's not Paranoia, science is on my side here. There's been many studies about the problematic effects of de-stigmatizing sex.

Your still not making sense. How the hell does the act of sex have morality or immorality to it?

Dafuq? I literally just listed moral concepts about Sex. Monogamy, Polygamy, Adultry, Pre-Marital Sex, Sodomy, Sadism, Sadomasochism, Rape.

[Genivaria]

Well pain and injury are independent. Many people like physiological pain (masochists). The same I for the opposite; many activities that are theoretically "pleasurable" are hated. Rape, in theory, should be just like sex, but the reality is the psychology of humans make people hate a pleasurable activity. Hence rape is bad; because it is perceived to be.

So would it not be vastly more practical to create a society where rape is no longer viewed as unpleasant?

Please stop talking.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I know you think you're being all edgy and clever. You're not. There are multiple survivors of rape on this forum. It is not a joke. Please go away.

The word survivor cannot be applied to rape victims. The act of rape itself is not potentially lethal under any normal circumstances.

Well that was one of the most revolting things I've read in a while.

How about this then? If you try to rape someone, I will put a fucking knife through your cock. Is that enough of a reason for you?

[Genivaria]

Your still not making sense. How the hell does the act of sex have morality or immorality to it?

Dafuq? I literally just listed moral concepts about Sex. Monogamy, Polygamy, Adultry, Pre-Marital Sex, Sodomy, Sadism, Sadomasochism, Rape.

None of those things are inherent to sex. Not one.

[The Blaatschapen]

Well pain and injury are independent. Many people like physiological pain (masochists). The same I for the opposite; many activities that are theoretically "pleasurable" are hated. Rape, in theory, should be just like sex, but the reality is the psychology of humans make people hate a pleasurable activity. Hence rape is bad; because it is perceived to be.

So would it not be vastly more practical to create a society where rape is no longer viewed as unpleasant?

Oh, how would that be practical? What are your suggestions for this. There should be plenty of them, if it is practical.

[Genivaria]

The word survivor cannot be applied to rape victims. The act of rape itself is not potentially lethal under any normal circumstances.

Well that was one of the most revolting things I've read in a while.

How about this then? If you try to rape someone, I will put a fucking knife through your cock. Is that enough of a reason for you?

I love you.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The word survivor cannot be applied to rape victims. The act of rape itself is not potentially lethal under any normal circumstances.

Nice place to get pedantic. Really classy.

What is interesting is that he conveniently forgets the many cases where the victims of rape have been killed. That he thinks someone who manages to come out alive from a violent act like rape is not a survivor only tells me that he does not know what it means to survive, what it means to move on.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Well pain and injury are independent. Many people like physiological pain (masochists). The same I for the opposite; many activities that are theoretically "pleasurable" are hated. Rape, in theory, should be just like sex, but the reality is the psychology of humans make people hate a pleasurable activity. Hence rape is bad; because it is perceived to be.

So would it not be vastly more practical to create a society where rape is no longer viewed as unpleasant?

There are, some Eastern European Cultures, view Rape as part of the Marriage Process. Some old cultures did as well.

[Esternial]

The word survivor cannot be applied to rape victims. The act of rape itself is not potentially lethal under any normal circumstances.

Well that was one of the most revolting things I've read in a while.

How about this then? If you try to rape someone, I will put a fucking knife through your cock. Is that enough of a reason for you?

Maggy, best you step outside for awhile.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Well that was one of the most revolting things I've read in a while.

How about this then? If you try to rape someone, I will put a fucking knife through your cock. Is that enough of a reason for you?

Maggy, best you step outside for awhile.

General you, worry not .

No, if that was a threat, I'd be far more direct.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Well that was one of the most revolting things I've read in a while.

How about this then? If you try to rape someone, I will put a fucking knife through your cock. Is that enough of a reason for you?

That would be enough reason for me, but it is still not practical unless it were applied to everyone so that everyone would be motivated not to rape.

Hence, prison sentences.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Dafuq? I literally just listed moral concepts about Sex. Monogamy, Polygamy, Adultry, Pre-Marital Sex, Sodomy, Sadism, Sadomasochism, Rape.

I am a masochist who finds domination arousing. Masochism is no more a choice then is homosexuality...
I was going to say that it is just a bigoted to discriminate against sadomasochists as gays, but you have sodomy on you list as well.

Hows the WBC been treating you?

Holy shit, did you just compare practices in which there's consent to something as brutal and demeaning and non-consensual as rape? Please, tell me you just didn't stoop that low. Please.

[Katganistan]

Well pain and injury are independent. Many people like physiological pain (masochists). The same I for the opposite; many activities that are theoretically "pleasurable" are hated. Rape, in theory, should be just like sex, but the reality is the psychology of humans make people hate a pleasurable activity. Hence rape is bad; because it is perceived to be.

So would it not be vastly more practical to create a society where rape is no longer viewed as unpleasant?

It would be vastly more pleasant to create a society where people don't troll.
*** Warned for trolling ***

[Tarsonis Survivors]

So would it not be vastly more practical to create a society where rape is no longer viewed as unpleasant?

It would be vastly more pleasant to create a society where people don't troll.
*** Warned for trolling ***

But what if he's completely serious?

[The Grey Wolf]

The word survivor cannot be applied to rape victims. The act of rape itself is not potentially lethal under any normal circumstances.

Well that was one of the most revolting things I've read in a while.

How about this then? If you try to rape someone, I will put a fucking knife through your cock. Is that enough of a reason for you?

Don't walk the walk if you can't do the talk.

[The Steel Magnolia]

It would be vastly more pleasant to create a society where people don't troll.
*** Warned for trolling ***

But what if he's completely serious?

What if lizards run the world?

[Genivaria]

But what if he's completely serious?

What if lizards run the world?

What do you mean 'what if' ?

[The Blaatschapen]

It would be vastly more pleasant to create a society where people don't troll.
*** Warned for trolling ***

But what if he's completely serious?

Yeah, a nation created today, all or most of their posts in this topic. They're very serious.

[Neo Art]

It would be vastly more pleasant to create a society where people don't troll.
*** Warned for trolling ***

But what if he's completely serious?

What if Mr. Summertime Noposts was totally and utterly serious about his vision of the world being a place where rape is legalized?

Yeah, I'm not willing to take that bet, sorry.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Holy shit, did you just compare practices in which there's consent to something as brutal and demeaning and non-consensual as rape? Please, tell me you just didn't stoop that low. Please.

Did you just equate sadomasochism with rape? That is just as bad as equating homosexaulity with pedophillia.

I.. . what?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Dafuq? I literally just listed moral concepts about Sex. Monogamy, Polygamy, Adultry, Pre-Marital Sex, Sodomy, Sadism, Sadomasochism, Rape.

I am a masochist who finds domination arousing. Masochism is no more a choice then is homosexuality...
I was going to say that it is just a bigoted to discriminate against sadomasochists as gays, but you have sodomy on you list as well.

Hows the WBC been treating you?

Nice flaming, I retract my defense of you to the Mods.

I didn't actually ascribe my own opinion to those, I stated moral concepts about sex that have existed since humans have been thinking about such things. And since you reject Morality, wtf are you Judging me for Hypocrite?