The United States was NOT founded on Christianity

[Menassa]

Not genocide, but punishment. They were evil and deserved to be destroyed.

Said the Nazis about the Jews.

Also some evangelicals about the Jews.

[Nidaria]

Not genocide, but punishment. They were evil and deserved to be destroyed.

Said the Nazis about the Jews.

Nazis do not have any moral force.

[The Grey Wolf]

There was children. There are always children.

Why would there be?

You see, when two people love each other very much.....

[Nidaria]

Why would there be?

You don't think that the populating of the Earth before the flood wasn't done by any other means other than sexual intercourse as we know it, do you?

The generation immediately before the flood would be the first and only one that did not have children.

[Genivaria]

One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.(Pledge of elegance) In the name of God Amen. (first words of the Mayflower Compact) "-We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they endowed by their Creator..." (declaration of independence)

America was founded on Christianity

What's the pledge of elegance? Is it like the pledge of Allegiance?

[Thafoo]

One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.(Pledge of elegance) In the name of God Amen. (first words of the Mayflower Compact) "-We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they endowed by their Creator..." (declaration of independence)

America was founded on Christianity

Elegance? What the fuck? Allegiance. And that god bit in the Pledge was added in 1956.

[Nidaria]

Why would there be?

You see, when two people love each other very much.....

As I said, contraception could have occurred.

[Ganos Lao]

Nidaria, seriously stop, you are making indefensible arguments. Saying God is a baby killer, is a misnomer. If you are Going to assume the position that God is real, and destroyed the world with a flood you must also assume the position that this life is but temporary and the eternal life afterwards does exist. Children are considered innocent in God's eyes until they come of age, which by Jewish tradition is 13. All Children under the age of 13 would have gone to Heaven, paradise. So yeah, he killed children, but in the constraints of the Religion, death is not a bad thing, for the kids anyway.

He hasn't even addressed my examples about murdered children and the like too.

I mean, he said it himself. God wants what's best for all people. So what was so good about what happened to Klaas, Budd, etc? And we can extend this to include victims of rape, genocide, murder, whatever else you want to list.

What is best out of any and all possible scenarios that people should suffer like that in the eyes of God?

[The Grey Wolf]

One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.(Pledge of elegance) In the name of God Amen. (first words of the Mayflower Compact) "-We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they endowed by their Creator..." (declaration of independence)

America was founded on Christianity

Elegance? What the fuck? Allegiance. And that god bit in the Pledge was added in 1956.

Wasn't that during the Red Scare?

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Why would there be?

You see, when two people love each other very much.....

They are smitten by God with burning sulphur.

[Genivaria]

Said the Nazis about the Jews.

Also some evangelicals about the Jews.

And the Jews about the Amalekites.

[Shaggai]

There was children. There are always children.

Why would there be?

What.

[Ganos Lao]

One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.(Pledge of elegance) In the name of God Amen. (first words of the Mayflower Compact) "-We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they endowed by their Creator..." (declaration of independence)

America was founded on Christianity and their is proof of it

So what was so Christian - so loving of liberty and justice for all - that African Americans were to be enslaved? What about women who were denied the right to vote, etc?

[Menassa]

Nidaria, seriously stop, you are making indefensible arguments. Saying God is a baby killer, is a misnomer. If you are Going to assume the position that God is real, and destroyed the world with a flood you must also assume the position that this life is but temporary and the eternal life afterwards does exist. Children are considered innocent in God's eyes until they come of age, which by Jewish tradition is 13. All Children under the age of 13 would have gone to Heaven, paradise. So yeah, he killed children, but in the constraints of the Religion, death is not a bad thing, for the kids anyway.

The age of 13 is when the superego develops... a child only cares about itself and no other... and that's why in the Bible when the wickedness of man is described it is usually talking about youth.

[The Grey Wolf]

You see, when two people love each other very much.....

As I said, contraception could have occurred.

I wonder how everybody had the supplies to make a billion condoms.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

And your flawed paradigm, You are putting humanity on the level with God. You are taking the morals he put on humanity, and attempting to put those back on him. The creation does not rise to the level of the Creator, from God's perspective smiting an entire city, is no more immoral for him, than it is for you to jump on an anthill.

So genocide is moral from God's perspective?

If you assume the position that all Christianity is real, Morality from that standpoint is irrelevant, because God has authority, morality is a constraint placed on Humanity by God. He is master of the Universe and all creation, he has authority to kill or not kill. As the saying goes, "The Lord Giveth, and the Lord Taketh away." It is immoral for men to commit Genocide for they have no such authority, and we were commanded by God, not to.

But for God to destroy say, Sodom, is no different than a surgeon removing a tumor.

[Ganos Lao]

You see, when two people love each other very much.....

As I said, contraception could have occurred.

Did people in the time of Noah know what contraception is?

[Genivaria]

You see, when two people love each other very much.....

As I said, contraception could have occurred.

Before recorded history?

[Nidaria]

One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.(Pledge of elegance) In the name of God Amen. (first words of the Mayflower Compact) "-We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they endowed by their Creator..." (declaration of independence)

America was founded on Christianity and their is proof of it

So what was so Christian - so loving of liberty and justice for all - that African Americans were to be enslaved? What about women who were denied the right to vote, etc?

You are claiming that slavery and lack of suffrage are actually Christian teachings...

[Genivaria]

Elegance? What the fuck? Allegiance. And that god bit in the Pledge was added in 1956.

Wasn't that during the Red Scare?

Indeed.

[Menassa]

Also some evangelicals about the Jews.

And the Jews about the Amalekites.

Actually it was God about the Amalekites.

[Shaggai]

So what was so Christian - so loving of liberty and justice for all - that African Americans were to be enslaved? What about women who were denied the right to vote, etc?

You are claiming that slavery and lack of suffrage are actually Christian teachings...

They were justified by Christianity. Remember?

[Thafoo]

Elegance? What the fuck? Allegiance. And that god bit in the Pledge was added in 1956.

Wasn't that during the Red Scare?

It was, and that is most likely why it was added.

[Nidaria]

As I said, contraception could have occurred.

Before recorded history?

Ancient civilization was more advanced than we give them credit.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

You see, when two people love each other very much.....

As I said, contraception could have occurred.

What? So for one random generation, every adult decided to use contraception and thus amongst the millions of people, there was not one single child?