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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:46 pm

Gideona wrote:
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Originally he planned on shipping them to Madagascar but the Allies got in the way.

Under god, where do you think that came from?! well,it should have outlawed aestheism

Congress in the 1950's that's where.
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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:46 pm

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Who draws sh*t like that?

Well, according to the Bible, God did **** like that...

No, because everyone was evil and thus guilty enough to be destroyed.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:47 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Well, according to the Bible, God did **** like that...

No, because everyone was evil and thus guilty enough to be destroyed.

Including all the children. God is a baby killer.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:47 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Well, according to the Bible, God did **** like that...

No, because everyone was evil and thus guilty enough to be destroyed.


So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?



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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Nidaria wrote:No, because everyone was evil and thus guilty enough to be destroyed.

Including all the children. God is a baby killer.

How do you know there were children? As I said, the evil people could have held a revulsion for children.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:48 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Nidaria wrote:That was warfare against the Moslems to take back the Holy Land. Murder was never advocated, and though regrettable events did occur during the Crusades, those were condemned.

Hmmm... Let's see...

GOD wrote:Thou shalt not kill.

Jesus wrote:Love thine enemies.

Jesus wrote:Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.

Jesus wrote:But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment.




That first one is wrong. It's thou shalt not commit murder. Not thou shalt not kill. Yeah Greek to English isn't the most direct translation.

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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:48 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Nidaria wrote:No, because everyone was evil and thus guilty enough to be destroyed.


So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?

Just because someone made an incorrect drawing does not mean that actually occurred.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:49 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Nidaria wrote:No, because everyone was evil and thus guilty enough to be destroyed.


So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?

Nothing, which is why they were not punished.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:49 pm

Thafoo wrote:

You didn't even read that, did you?


Do you get some pleasure out of annoying me with silly, obnoxious questions?

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:49 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:He's all-powerful, anything is possible. I don't even need to list alternatives.



And the flawed perspective I noted before, Who are you to tell God what to do?

Unless God transcends the moral boundaries he himself set out, and also the general morality of humanity, what he did was unjust, unnecessary and inexplicably evil.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:49 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Nidaria wrote:No, because everyone was evil and thus guilty enough to be destroyed.


So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?


::Sharpens blade:: He was born....

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:49 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Including all the children. God is a baby killer.

How do you know there were children? As I said, the evil people could have held a revulsion for children.

So did humans reproduce asexually or something back then?
What a ridiculous question.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:50 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Ganos Lao wrote:
So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?

Just because someone made an incorrect drawing does not mean that actually occurred.


So Noah brought all the babies onboard with him?

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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:50 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

And the flawed perspective I noted before, Who are you to tell God what to do?

Unless God transcends the moral boundaries he himself set out, and also the general morality of humanity, what he did was unjust, unnecessary and inexplicably evil.

Prove that it was so.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:50 pm

Menassa wrote:
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So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?

Nothing, which is why they were not punished.


How were they not punished? Children like this hypothetical baby here were essentially damned to die in the flood. If not out to punish them, why did God let them die?
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Ganos Lao wrote:
So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?

Just because someone made an incorrect drawing does not mean that actually occurred.

Well none of it actually occurred, doesn't prevent us from ragging on the immorality of it.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Menassa wrote:Nothing, which is why they were not punished.


How were they not punished?


They got a quick death or something?

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Postby Menassa » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Menassa wrote:Nothing, which is why they were not punished.


How were they not punished?

Who said death is a punishment?

Maybe it is their life that would have been the punishment?
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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Nidaria wrote:Just because someone made an incorrect drawing does not mean that actually occurred.


So Noah brought all the babies onboard with him?

As I stated, contraception could have been practiced, with the result that no babies were born. That segment of humanity would have died out anyway.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Unless God transcends the moral boundaries he himself set out, and also the general morality of humanity, what he did was unjust, unnecessary and inexplicably evil.

Prove that it was so.

So your morality says that drowning everyone including children is ok?
Then your immoral.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:52 pm

Nidaria wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
So Noah brought all the babies onboard with him?

As I stated, contraception could have been practiced, with the result that no babies were born. That segment of humanity would have died out anyway.

At this point your just making shit up, not surprising.
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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:52 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Nidaria wrote:Just because someone made an incorrect drawing does not mean that actually occurred.

Well none of it actually occurred, doesn't prevent us from ragging on the immorality of it.

Strange that you claim to be knowledgeable about "morality." You do not even consider morality to be objective.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:52 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Ganos Lao wrote:
So how was that baby held up on that hand evil? What were his crimes?

Just because someone made an incorrect drawing does not mean that actually occurred.


But how do you know it never occured? Were you there?



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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

And the flawed perspective I noted before, Who are you to tell God what to do?

Unless God transcends the moral boundaries he himself set out, and also the general morality of humanity, what he did was unjust, unnecessary and inexplicably evil.


And your flawed paradigm, You are putting humanity on the level with God. You are taking the morals he put on humanity, and attempting to put those back on him. The creation does not rise to the level of the Creator, from God's perspective smiting an entire city, is no more immoral for him, than it is for you to jump on an anthill.
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Postby Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Nidaria wrote:As I stated, contraception could have been practiced, with the result that no babies were born. That segment of humanity would have died out anyway.

At this point your just making **** up, not surprising.

Claiming that children drowned too is making stuff up too. I am presenting a logical explanation that is compatible with Scripture.
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