Unless you're Protestant, of course.
Still, it's hard to provide a pleasant interpretation to some of the stuff in there.
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by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:22 pm
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/

by Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:22 pm

by Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:23 pm
Nidaria wrote:Shaggai wrote:Yeah, I'm okay with belief in a lot of stuff, just less basing morality on that. If you want to believe in hell, I'm not going to dictate your beliefs. But if you're basing your morality on "I don't want to go to hell" instead of "hey, this is good for most people" there's a problem.
Pragmatist or utilitarian morality is not morality at all. What is moral is good for everyone.

by Ganos Lao » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:23 pm
Nidaria wrote:Shaggai wrote:Yeah, I'm okay with belief in a lot of stuff, just less basing morality on that. If you want to believe in hell, I'm not going to dictate your beliefs. But if you're basing your morality on "I don't want to go to hell" instead of "hey, this is good for most people" there's a problem.
Pragmatist or utilitarian morality is not morality at all. What is moral is good for everyone.

by The Grey Wolf » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:23 pm

by Thafoo » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:23 pm
Nidaria wrote:Genivaria wrote:Four different sites including 1 psychology and 3 news sites are all dismissed as 'left-wing, secularist sites'.
I see you choose lying then.
The LA Times, NBC, and the NY Times are notoriously left-leaning. Not so sure about Psychology Today, but all it takes is one person to write a propaganda piece.

by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:23 pm
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/

by Ganos Lao » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:23 pm

by Thafoo » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:24 pm
The Grey Wolf wrote:Thafoo wrote:No need to resort to picspamming an overused quote from a great movie.
Did you just question why Hitler would be going to an, albeit nonexistent, place for bad people?
Sorry. The temptation to use that me me was too much. I'll control myself next time.
But yeah, that was my question.

by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:24 pm
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/

by Genivaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:25 pm
Nidaria wrote:Genivaria wrote:Four different sites including 1 psychology and 3 news sites are all dismissed as 'left-wing, secularist sites'.
I see you choose lying then.
The LA Times, NBC, and the NY Times 1. are notoriously left-leaning. Not so sure about Psychology Today, but all it takes is one person to write a propaganda piece.

by Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:25 pm
Ganos Lao wrote:The Grey Wolf wrote:
Why is Hitler going to hell?
Because he is a bad, bad man, of course. That's what hell is traditionally seen as, after all, a home for people like that.
Now in Christian circles, a guy like Hitler could easily get into Heaven if he just accepted Christ into his life, but not only does that cause controversy among people, seeing how people may find it grossly improper to see a guy like that up there, but how he accepts Christ is another issue, because we all know so many denominations of Christianity exist.....

by The Grey Wolf » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:25 pm

by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:25 pm
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/

by Shaggai » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:26 pm
Nidaria wrote:Pragmatist or utilitarian morality is not morality at all. What is moral is good for everyone.
Nidaria wrote:What is moral is good for everyone.
Nidaria wrote:What is moral is good for everyone.
Nidaria wrote:What is moral is good for everyone.

by Ganos Lao » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm

by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/

by The Grey Wolf » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm

by Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm

by Nidaria » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm
Ganos Lao wrote:Nidaria wrote:Pragmatist or utilitarian morality is not morality at all. What is moral is good for everyone.
So what is morality to you? Roman Catholic morality? Which sort? Pre or Post Vatican II? Do you believe the principle of Ecclesiam nulla salus? What do you think of other Christian denominations?

by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/
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