Mass protests in Turkey [live-update thread]

[Kemalist]

Coward Erdogan. Gaddafi did not run away, he said he would die in his homeland no matter what. He is leaving the country, fucking coward. Looking forward to the times when the headlines say "Erdogan arrested for treason"

[Divair]

Coward Erdogan. Gaddafi did not run away, he said he would die in his homeland no matter what. He is leaving the country, fucking coward. Looking forward to the times when the headlines say "Erdogan arrested for treason"

Think it'll actually happen?

[Kemalist]

Coward Erdogan. Gaddafi did not run away, he said he would die in his homeland no matter what. He is leaving the country, fucking coward. Looking forward to the times when the headlines say "Erdogan arrested for treason"

Think it'll actually happen?

Soon.

[Divair]

Think it'll actually happen?

Soon.

I hope you're right.

[EnragedMaldivians]

Coward Erdogan. Gaddafi did not run away, he said he would die in his homeland no matter what. He is leaving the country, fucking coward. Looking forward to the times when the headlines say "Erdogan arrested for treason"

Wait, what? He said he's leaving? When?

[Kemalist]

Coward Erdogan. Gaddafi did not run away, he said he would die in his homeland no matter what. He is leaving the country, fucking coward. Looking forward to the times when the headlines say "Erdogan arrested for treason"

Wait, what? He said he's leaving? When?

http://www.trt-world.com/trtworld/en/ne ... %20Tunisia

[4years]

1. Wait, you consider Israel to be a functional, sane country?!?

Inside its internationally recognized borders, yes. Its quite functional and sane. Just a staggering amount of racism. But there's another thread for that.

2. I see the difference. I am not saying a cop shoot a protestor, therefore violent revolution. I am saying cop starts shooting at a protestor, therefore protestor starts shooting back.

If the protestors start shooting back, then there will be a violent revolution.

1. Inside its internationally recognized borders being the operative phrase and racism is hardly sane, but yes there is another thread for that.

2. Only if the state chooses to escalate the violence beyond a shoot-out between one cop and one protestor(or a handful of cops vs a handful of protestors) into something more. In which case, I would support violent revolution. In Egypt, for example, 900 protestors killed by police is fairly uncontroversial and the disposal of the dictatorship wasn't particularly violent. Even the Russian Revolutions of 1917 weren't terribly violent ( specifically Petrograd had and extremely low death toll even through the Boleshevik revolution) until the civil war broke out and foriegn powers attempted to crush the revolution.

[Yankee Empire]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDqse9wCXfA

0:00 - "We are soldiers of Mustafa Kemal"
0:11 - "Shoulder to shoulder against fascism"

Just thought I'd bring some clarity.

Goddamnit, there's nothing Fascist about Erdrogan!

Why is every anti government protest "Hurr der dey ebul Fascists"?

Just to be clear im not defending Erdrogan.

[Kemalist]

0:00 - "We are soldiers of Mustafa Kemal"
0:11 - "Shoulder to shoulder against fascism"

Just thought I'd bring some clarity.

Goddamnit, there's nothing Fascist about Erdrogan!

Why is every anti government protest "Hurr der dey ebul Fascists"?

Just to be clear im not defending Erdrogan.

We're living here, we know more about Erdogan than you.

[4years]

Erdogan is leaving the country not to come back till at the Thursday night, will visit several North African countries.

During these protests? Srsly?

The point is that it is during the protests. Erdogan thinks he can slip away until the protests calm down or he simply plans to out of the country when the protestors remove him as prime minister.

[Kemalist]

AKP's party office in Izmir set on fire

[Mike the Progressive]

Why is every anti government protest "Hurr der dey ebul Fascists"?

Because demagogues are liberal in their usage of the words "fascist," "communist," "socialist," "war criminal," etc.

[Regnum Dominae]

AKP's party office in Izmir set on fire

(Image)

I can't say that upsets me.

[4years]

Coward Erdogan. Gaddafi did not run away, he said he would die in his homeland no matter what. He is leaving the country, fucking coward. Looking forward to the times when the headlines say "Erdogan arrested for treason"

Would you prefer Erdogan stayed and made a fight of it?
Depending on how long America kept backing him and how much of the army remained under his control he could still do quite a lot of damage.

[Yankee Empire]

Goddamnit, there's nothing Fascist about Erdrogan!

Why is every anti government protest "Hurr der dey ebul Fascists"?

Just to be clear im not defending Erdrogan.

We're living here, we know more about Erdogan than you.

Oh, And whats so Fascist about Erdrogan? Because he obviously rose to power on a wave of widspread enthusiastic public support...

I don't care that you or these demonstrators hate the guy, i just hate the ad naseum misuse of the word fascist.

Why is every anti government protest "Hurr der dey ebul Fascists"?

Because demagogues are liberal in their usage of the words "fascist," "communist," "socialist," "war criminal," etc.

Very true.

[Kemalist]

We're living here, we know more about Erdogan than you.

Oh, And whats so Fascist about Erdrogan? Because he obviously rose to power on a wave of widspread enthusiastic public support...

I don't care that you or these demonstrators hate the guy, i just hate the ad naseum misuse of the word fascist.

Because demagogues are liberal in their usage of the words "fascist," "communist," "socialist," "war criminal," etc.

Very true.

He's intervening in people's private rights, attempting to restrict their personal life, aiming to raise a generation that suits his own ideology as he admitted himself. He has a fascistic mindset, people know that.

[Kemalist]

Coward Erdogan. Gaddafi did not run away, he said he would die in his homeland no matter what. He is leaving the country, fucking coward. Looking forward to the times when the headlines say "Erdogan arrested for treason"

Would you prefer Erdogan stayed and made a fight of it?
Depending on how long America kept backing him and how much of the army remained under his control he could still do quite a lot of damage.

The army will not side against the protesters, at least I want to think so.

[Yankee Empire]

He's intervening in people's private rights, attempting to restrict their personal life, aiming to raise a generation that suits his own ideology as he admitted himself. He has a fascistic mindset, people know that.

This shit does not = Fascism.

[Kemalist]

"Starting as a facebook event, more than a hundred of thousand people are in black at 3rd June 2013 as a sign of protesting the government."

[Mike the Progressive]

He's intervening in people's private rights, attempting to restrict their personal life, aiming to raise a generation that suits his own ideology as he admitted himself. He has a fascistic mindset, people know that.

This shit does not = Fascism.

And if it does, every government in every country can be considered "fascist," which to some is probably true.

[Vistulange]

There are unconfirmed reports that people are being shot in Ankara.

[4years]

Would you prefer Erdogan stayed and made a fight of it?
Depending on how long America kept backing him and how much of the army remained under his control he could still do quite a lot of damage.

The army will not side against the protesters, at least I want to think so.

Not being in Turkish I will defer on that question, but does Erdogan have a strong enough base of support among police/the populace as a whole for the US to prop him up as a tinpot dictator in the face of protests? Because based on his support for the coup in Honduras, Obama has no problem with such tactics if strategic objectives are met.

[Yankee Empire]

This shit does not = Fascism.

And if it does, every government in every country can be considered "fascist," which to some is probably true.

Yeah, to dumbasses with an oppression complex who know nothing about Fascism it is.

Which I have the displeasure of meeting rather regularly.

[Kemalist]

The army will not side against the protesters, at least I want to think so.

Not being in Turkish I will defer on that question, but does Erdogan have a strong enough base of support among police/the populace as a whole for the US to prop him up as a tinpot dictator in the face of protests? Because based on his support for the coup in Honduras, Obama has no problem with such tactics if strategic objectives are met.

I don't think the US really wants to support Erdogan, especially since he failed to handle things with Syria. The US government officially stated that they support the peaceful protesters.

[Kemalist]

And if it does, every government in every country can be considered "fascist," which to some is probably true.

Yeah, to dumbasses with an oppression complex who know nothing about Fascism it is.

Which I have the displeasure of meeting rather regularly.

You and Hippo are a joke here. I wish your government one day does to you and people like you what Erdogan has been doing to us and I will gladly watch your reaction.

And you are the dumbass, imperialist kind of one.

What can we expect from a freak in favour of authoritarianism and imperialism anyway, no need to deal.