What is the gender of nationstates

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

More accepting yours...

I'll get the lube.

I don't think we'll need any...
Thanks anyway...

[Rhodesiah]

It's NSG, that's what we do. It's not a big point, it's not a big problem. It's just that Obrenovacia said something stupid, which is that a) genitalia is determinant to sexuality, and b) that a vagina is at all necessarily connected to womanhood.

I'm sure I'd feel more womanly too, with a vagina. That doesn't mean I'm not a woman and it doesn't mean anyone with a vagina is more of a woman than I am.

Where did Obrenovacia say that?

She never said not hinted that genitalia is determinant to sexuality, merely felt more comfortably admitting one's own sexuality. How it related to dominance over someone else is completely stupid...

b) that a vagina is at all necessarily connected to womanhood

It isn't, though it allows someone to be more comfortable in identifying with a gender group. There was no superiority complex, merely a statement of fact.

Self-righteous much?

[Aalnordhavn]

It's NSG, that's what we do. It's not a big point, it's not a big problem. It's just that Obrenovacia said something stupid, which is that a) genitalia is determinant to sexuality, and b) that a vagina is at all necessarily connected to womanhood.

I'm sure I'd feel more womanly too, with a vagina. That doesn't mean I'm not a woman and it doesn't mean anyone with a vagina is more of a woman than I am.

I'm sorry, but...

WHAT?!?

As strawman as your argument is, you clearly don't understand the process it takes in the modern world from someone to become transsexual. To think that someone doesn't identify with a gender, yet need genitals to validate that they do? Oh you are seriously in the wrong there hun.

The fact that Obrenovacia can say she's a woman on here proves two things:

1) She's proud of being a woman, regardless of whatever 'downstairs' is. Maybe she wasn't before, but she is now... and you can't take that from someone.

2) If a vagina was a "be all, end all" argument to womanhood... please... tell that to every transgendered woman waiting to become a transexual man. I'm sure they'd love to hear how a vagina can isolate someone within a gender, regardless of whom they identify with.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Where did Obrenovacia say that?

She never said not hinted that genitalia is determinant to sexuality, merely felt more comfortably admitting one's own sexuality. How it related to dominance over someone else is completely stupid...

b) that a vagina is at all necessarily connected to womanhood

It isn't, though it allows someone to be more comfortable in identifying with a gender group. There was no superiority complex, merely a statement of fact.

Self-righteous much?

Did you miss me quoting her?

She said something stupid. It's not really idiotic, it's not all that bad, all things considered. Hell, it's a common opinion.

It's still stupid.

[Rhodesiah]

She never said not hinted that genitalia is determinant to sexuality, merely felt more comfortably admitting one's own sexuality. How it related to dominance over someone else is completely stupid...



It isn't, though it allows someone to be more comfortable in identifying with a gender group. There was no superiority complex, merely a statement of fact.

Self-righteous much?

Did you miss me quoting her?

She said something stupid. It's not really idiotic, it's not all that bad, all things considered. Hell, it's a common opinion.

It's still stupid.

Dismissing a legitimate post as stupid... regardless of overwhelming opinion against you...

[Arkhane]

What's an asexual?

You mean like a plant?

[Aalnordhavn]

Did you miss me quoting her?

She said something stupid. It's not really idiotic, it's not all that bad, all things considered. Hell, it's a common opinion.

It's still stupid.

Dismissing a legitimate post as stupid... regardless of overwhelming opinion against you...

Exactly. I TOTALLY GET how someone making an effort to feel comfortable with themselves is something to dismiss TSM! No really! Your divine understanding of human sexuality and gender identity puts everyone else in total awe!

[New haven america]

What's an asexual?

You mean like a plant?

Someone who's not attracted to either gender.

[Great Empire of Gamilus]

and yet they don't include submissive...

They expect you to just sit there and take it.

i like doing that... only if its a girl with a whip hitting me and asking "do you like that slave!"

[Yaie]

Male bi-leaning straight.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Dismissing a legitimate post as stupid... regardless of overwhelming opinion against you...

What?

Seriously, I don't think you people read at all.

The notion that genitalia is connected to sexuality is stupid. Her post said this, and I objected. The notion that there are "stages to womanhood", and one is more or less of a woman depending on how far along you are is also stupid, and I objected.

Neither of those two objections are overly controversial. Or rather, they are, but not in civilized society.

[Mike the Progressive]

Dismissing a legitimate post as stupid... regardless of overwhelming opinion against you...

What?

Seriously, I don't think you people read at all.

The notion that genitalia is connected to sexuality is stupid. Her post said this, and I objected. The notion that there are "stages to womanhood", and one is more or less of a woman depending on how far along you are is also stupid, and I objected.

Neither of those two objections are overly controversial. Or rather, they are, but not in civilized society.

I dunno, that picture of a fat Eric Holder shaking his head is pretty convincing...

[Rhodesiah]

Male bi-leaning straight.

Never rush into finding preference.

[New England and The Maritimes]

I have a penis, though I'm doing my best to distance myself from thinking in binary terms and demolish the role I've helped others force my thoughts into. I find myself only sexually attracted to people I assume have vaginas, and while I'm not sure why I don't see a need to challenge that right now.

[Anachronous Rex]

What's an asexual?

You mean like a plant?

You're kidding right?

I mean, all qualms about human sexuality aside, I am literally choking on plant sex right now.

[Rhodesiah]

Dismissing a legitimate post as stupid... regardless of overwhelming opinion against you...

The notion that genitalia is connected to sexuality is stupid. Her post said this, and I objected. The notion that there are "stages to womanhood", and one is more or less of a woman depending on how far along you are is also stupid, and I objected.

There's different stages to identification, progress and acceptance. For a man to put on a skirt and hop into a woman's changeroom is a little different from therapy, identification, mental transformation, physical transformation, and acceptance....

But hey... you're clearly an expert on this

[Anachronous Rex]

They expect you to just sit there and take it.

i like doing that... only if its a girl with a whip hitting me and asking "do you like that slave!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk

[Yaie]

Male bi-leaning straight.

Never rush into finding preference.

You lost me...

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

What's an asexual?

You mean like a plant?

Google is your friend.

[Nadkor]

The notion that genitalia is connected to sexuality is stupid. Her post said this, and I objected. The notion that there are "stages to womanhood", and one is more or less of a woman depending on how far along you are is also stupid, and I objected.

There's different stages to identification, progress and acceptance. For a man to put on a skirt and hop into a woman's changeroom is a little different from therapy, identification, mental transformation, physical transformation, and acceptance....

But hey... you're clearly an expert on this

TSM is a transwoman. You're literally arguing with a transwoman about being a transwoman.

[Immoren]

Hell, our Sex Ed teaches us how to attract people...

they what now?

[Kharsus]

I have a penis, though I'm doing my best to distance myself from thinking in binary terms and demolish the role I've helped others force my thoughts into. I find myself only sexually attracted to people I assume have vaginas, and while I'm not sure why I don't see a need to challenge that right now.

Congratulations, you're perfectly natural. There's nothing wrong with that, and if other people tell you otherwise they're just trying to push their own beliefs/ideals/orientation(s) on you.

Male bi-leaning straight.

Never rush into finding preference.

How is he rushing into preference? He just said he was leaning straight, it isn't anyone's place to try to get him to stop leaning that way or make him question it.

[New England and The Maritimes]

I have a penis, though I'm doing my best to distance myself from thinking in binary terms and demolish the role I've helped others force my thoughts into. I find myself only sexually attracted to people I assume have vaginas, and while I'm not sure why I don't see a need to challenge that right now.

Congratulations, you're perfectly natural. There's nothing wrong with that, and if other people tell you otherwise they're just trying to push their own beliefs/ideals/orientation(s) on you.

Everyone is perfectly natural, since we are fundamentally the result of biological processes beyond our direct control.

[The Steel Magnolia]

The notion that genitalia is connected to sexuality is stupid. Her post said this, and I objected. The notion that there are "stages to womanhood", and one is more or less of a woman depending on how far along you are is also stupid, and I objected.

There's different stages to identification, progress and acceptance. For a man to put on a skirt and hop into a woman's changeroom is a little different from therapy, identification, mental transformation, physical transformation, and acceptance....

But hey... you're clearly an expert on this

Certainly more than you.

You're seriously arguing with a trans woman about how to identify as a woman.

E: Dammit, Nadkor! I wanted to say it this time!

[Nadkor]

There's different stages to identification, progress and acceptance. For a man to put on a skirt and hop into a woman's changeroom is a little different from therapy, identification, mental transformation, physical transformation, and acceptance....

But hey... you're clearly an expert on this

Certainly more than you.

You're seriously arguing with a trans woman about how to identify as a woman.

E: Dammit, Nadkor! I wanted to say it this time!

You need to be quicker m'dear