What is the gender of nationstates

[Mushet]

Straight male last I checked

[Olthar]

Straight male last I checked

You should check again. You should set up a scientific study to determine your sexuality. Pick out 30-40 men and have sex with them. Then, have sex with 30-40 women as a control. After that, repeat the study three or more times to eliminate potential bias. *nods*

[The Carlisle]

I'm a questioning bisexual male leaning more towards female.

[Nieuw Kaap]

Straight male last I checked

You should check again. You should set up a scientific study to determine your sexuality. Pick out 30-40 men and have sex with them. Then, have sex with 30-40 women as a control. After that, repeat the study three or more times to eliminate potential bias. *nods*

30-40 men and 30-40 women, then you have to use a lot of condoms!

[Ostroeuropa]

I could point out that you are a feminist, a liberal etc and say you are just a political transgendered individual, not really transgendered. Secretly a man pretending to be transgendered to make a point etc.

I'm not a liberal. And going by everything you know about me, it'd be a trifle idiotic to make that claim, especially considering you evidently don't even know my political ideologies.

Now consider how it feels to be told that and apply it to me. I'm somewhat annoyed, but then I have no way of proving how I identify myself, and nor do you. All we can do is take eachothers word for it.
I'm perfectly willing to elaborate when I realized this about myself if you want.

I, on the other hand, know your ideologies from your posts perfectly well. And it is on that basis that I make such a judgement.

Equality does mean the same for everyone. Unless you are arguing that one section of society is inherently worse and/or unable to do something than another section. Which is something i'm open to. I completely agree that we need welfare for some of the disabled and mentally disabled who are incapable of doing certain things.
If they are not inherently worse at something, then why not treat them equally?

Because sitting in a circle, holding hands and singing kum-bah-yah doesn't do shit.

It's triage. Equality in a triage setting, and it ought to go to the people who need it most first.

You're a liberal in the american sense, at least that's how I see you.

You think that ideology and gender are linked? Sounds pretty sexist. Am I not allowed to have a particular gender because of my ideology?
I don't know why you think this would somehow score me a point. It's simply a statement of fact. I do not have a gender identity. That doesn't alter whether or not what I say is right or wrong. Except in your worldview, ofcourse. Which may be why you are fighting so adamantly to deny how I feel about myself.
I simply do not identify as any particular gender. While I was researching gender issues I came across Agender as a type, I read on and found it almost perfectly described me. Then I sat down and considered "Do I actually feel male?" then realized the answer was either "No." or "What does being a male feel like?" so I went and talked to some FtM people, as well as a few friends of mine who are male. None of what they described particularly fit the bill, even though it was difficult getting them to describe it.
I am not concerned with my physical sex.
I tend to appear androgynous.
It also explains why i'm always completely baffled when people say their gender is a big issue.
Thinking back, it also explains why I fluttered around the "Girls" and "Boys" groups in school and never seemed to understand why they didnt all hang out together.


I never said sit in a circle.
You mean, equality is treating people equally, and special rights should go to the people who whine and complain the most about not being able to make it in an equal setting.
You wanna go after a university for turning people down based on gender? Fine by me.
You wanna go after them because their documents explicitly DO NOT ASK for gender (or first name.), and it JUST so happens that only 20% of the attendee's are women? Sorry, I don't see how that can be justified.

[Linux and the X]

Second off, do you still use male pronouns? When you talk about yourself, when your friends and family talk to you - do you make them use gender neutral pronouns, or do you only use male ones, and are comfortable with that? Because if so, I call bullshit on that.

I'm quite certain it was unintentional, but "are you comfortable with that?" seems an afterthought, when I'd consider it the most important part. I'm uncomfortable with my birth pronouns, but I rarely bother trying to correct anyone, because doing so leads to the fun part of "your gender don't real, your pronouns ungood grammer". No point subjecting myself to that.

Yeh, but I don't identify as white. Hardly anyone I know does. Yet, if someone said "The white person" you know immediately who they are talking about.

You seem to misunderstand what identifying means. If someone asks you if you're white, what's your answer?

[TaQud]

You're a liberal in the american sense, at least that's how I see you.

how you see it does not necessarily mean its true. just sayin'

[The Steel Magnolia]

You're a liberal in the american sense, at least that's how I see you.

You think that ideology and gender are linked? Sounds pretty sexist. Am I not allowed to have a particular gender because of my ideology?
I don't know why you think this would somehow score me a point. It's simply a statement of fact. I do not have a gender identity. That doesn't alter whether or not what I say is right or wrong. Except in your worldview, ofcourse. Which may be why you are fighting so adamantly to deny how I feel about myself.
I simply do not identify as any particular gender. While I was researching gender issues I came across Agender as a type, I read on and found it almost perfectly described me. Then I sat down and considered "Do I actually feel male?" then realized the answer was either "No." or "What does being a male feel like?" so I went and talked to some FtM people, as well as a few friends of mine who are male. None of what they described particularly fit the bill, even though it was difficult getting them to describe it.
I am not concerned with my physical sex.
I tend to appear androgynous.
It also explains why i'm always completely baffled when people say their gender is a big issue.
Thinking back, it also explains why I fluttered around the "Girls" and "Boys" groups in school and never seemed to understand why they didnt all hang out together.


I never said sit in a circle.
You mean, equality is treating people equally, and special rights should go to the people who whine and complain the most about not being able to make it in an equal setting.
You wanna go after a university for turning people down based on gender? Fine by me.
You wanna go after them because their documents explicitly DO NOT ASK for gender (or first name.), and it JUST so happens that only 20% of the attendee's are women? Sorry, I don't see how that can be justified.

No, that's great.

I just don't believe you, because your previous statements make me think that it's a political point and little more. I'll concede it's entirely possible for you to truly be transgender. I just don't believe it, because of your very, very checkered history on here.

[Ostroeuropa]

Yeh, but I don't identify as white. Hardly anyone I know does. Yet, if someone said "The white person" you know immediately who they are talking about.

You seem to misunderstand what identifying means. If someone asks you if you're white, what's your answer?

What do you mean by white?
I'm not taking the piss, thats generally my answer.
I tick the refuse to answer or none boxes typically.

[Ostroeuropa]

You're a liberal in the american sense, at least that's how I see you.

You think that ideology and gender are linked? Sounds pretty sexist. Am I not allowed to have a particular gender because of my ideology?
I don't know why you think this would somehow score me a point. It's simply a statement of fact. I do not have a gender identity. That doesn't alter whether or not what I say is right or wrong. Except in your worldview, ofcourse. Which may be why you are fighting so adamantly to deny how I feel about myself.
I simply do not identify as any particular gender. While I was researching gender issues I came across Agender as a type, I read on and found it almost perfectly described me. Then I sat down and considered "Do I actually feel male?" then realized the answer was either "No." or "What does being a male feel like?" so I went and talked to some FtM people, as well as a few friends of mine who are male. None of what they described particularly fit the bill, even though it was difficult getting them to describe it.
I am not concerned with my physical sex.
I tend to appear androgynous.
It also explains why i'm always completely baffled when people say their gender is a big issue.
Thinking back, it also explains why I fluttered around the "Girls" and "Boys" groups in school and never seemed to understand why they didnt all hang out together.


I never said sit in a circle.
You mean, equality is treating people equally, and special rights should go to the people who whine and complain the most about not being able to make it in an equal setting.
You wanna go after a university for turning people down based on gender? Fine by me.
You wanna go after them because their documents explicitly DO NOT ASK for gender (or first name.), and it JUST so happens that only 20% of the attendee's are women? Sorry, I don't see how that can be justified.

No, that's great.

I just don't believe you, because your previous statements make me think that it's a political point and little more. I'll concede it's entirely possible for you to truly be transgender. I just don't believe it, because of your very, very checkered history on here.

I don't see how it's doubtful. If anything, it's caused me to question my beliefs because of how well it explains them.

[246corndog]

Transsexual

[The Divine Empire of Oranienburg]

Male; asexual as a protozoan

[Olthar]

Male; asexual as a protozoan

Not all protozoa reproduce asexually...

[Esternial]

Male; asexual as a protozoan

Not all protozoa reproduce asexually...

At most he'd be gay.

[Olthar]

Not all protozoa reproduce asexually...

At most he'd be gay.

Is it really "gay" if they're all hermaphroditic? What would the term be for that?

[Linux and the X]

You seem to misunderstand what identifying means. If someone asks you if you're white, what's your answer?

What do you mean by white?
I'm not taking the piss, thats generally my answer.
I tick the refuse to answer or none boxes typically.

Do you think that "white" is a valid descriptor of yourself?

[Ostroeuropa]

What do you mean by white?
I'm not taking the piss, thats generally my answer.
I tick the refuse to answer or none boxes typically.

Do you think that "white" is a valid descriptor of yourself?

No, not really. I understand other people sometimes think so, but I don't.

[Zweite Alaje]

No, that's great.

I just don't believe you, because your previous statements make me think that it's a political point and little more. I'll concede it's entirely possible for you to truly be transgender. I just don't believe it, because of your very, very checkered history on here.

I don't see how it's doubtful. If anything, it's caused me to question my beliefs because of how well it explains them.

As someone that considers you both to be among my NS buddies, I implore you to stop attacking eachother's gender identity. It's really uncharacteristic of you two, and very disturbing. Please stop.

[Ostroeuropa]

I don't see how it's doubtful. If anything, it's caused me to question my beliefs because of how well it explains them.

As someone that considers you both to be among my NS buddies, I implore you to stop attacking eachother's gender identity. It's really uncharacteristic of you two, and very disturbing. Please stop.

Meh.
I wondered if you felt that way. I always feel a bond with syndicalists, even if you are a bit too ... fascisty.

[Linux and the X]

Do you think that "white" is a valid descriptor of yourself?

No, not really. I understand other people sometimes think so, but I don't.

So when, to use your earlier example, someone refers to you as "that white guy", you get an unshakeable feeling of "oh ew no, that's wrong"?

[The Blaatschapen]

Prudish people are not oppressors.

Except for muslims, catholics, a variety of protestant christians and probably various others. [/out of context]

[Zweite Alaje]

As someone that considers you both to be among my NS buddies, I implore you to stop attacking eachother's gender identity. It's really uncharacteristic of you two, and very disturbing. Please stop.

Meh.
I wondered if you felt that way. I always feel a bond with syndicalists, even if you are a bit too ... fascisty.

I too feel a special bond with you, being a syndicalist, especially a market sydicalist. Sure your liberal/libertarian social views urk me, but it makes for an intresting dynamic.

[Esternial]

Prudish people are not oppressors.

Except for muslims, catholics, a variety of protestant christians and probably various others. [/out of context]

When are you ever *not* out of context?

[Ostroeuropa]

No, not really. I understand other people sometimes think so, but I don't.

So when, to use your earlier example, someone refers to you as "that white guy", you get an unshakeable feeling of "oh ew no, that's wrong"?

No, I just think "Mmpf. whatever."
If people called me "That black guy" i'd be confused because noones done it before, but not necessarily give a shit.
It's my identity. I don't need to go around making people accept that. My friends all know i'm not white, I don't give a shit what randomers think.
It's far, far easier to not care about things that could possibly offend you. Simply realize you don't care about the opinion of the person saying this stupid shit.

[Nieuw Kaap]

Prudish people are not oppressors.

Except for muslims, catholics, a variety of protestant christians and probably various others. [/out of context]

I totally agree.