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by Chetssaland » Mon May 20, 2013 4:15 pm

by The Steel Magnolia » Mon May 20, 2013 4:16 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:I'm not transgender. i do not have a gender. I just have a set of male genitals. That in no way effects my identity, as you yourself just got done arguing, the genitals are irrelevant to the identity. I do not feel male, I do not feel female.
Rolling your eyes is a wonderful rebuttal to me pointing out how stupid your suggestion that because LGBT are oppressed MORE, that means we should completely shaft everyone else. You wanna come out in favor of house-slaves?
Got anything better than just avoiding the point?

by Starkindler » Mon May 20, 2013 4:17 pm

by Nieuw Kaap » Mon May 20, 2013 4:19 pm


by Ostroeuropa » Mon May 20, 2013 4:21 pm
The Steel Magnolia wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:I'm not transgender. i do not have a gender. I just have a set of male genitals. That in no way effects my identity, as you yourself just got done arguing, the genitals are irrelevant to the identity. I do not feel male, I do not feel female.
If you are not male nor female, you're transgender. Genderqueer, agender, whatever.
That doesn't make your stance not an idiotic and offensive political point. I know you. I've seen your posts, I've read your inane "equality means the same for everyone!11!" rants.
You are a walking political point. I'm accordingly doubtful. Political lesbians aren't lesbian, and political trans people are not transgender.
Political "transgenderism" is utterly asinine appropriation.Rolling your eyes is a wonderful rebuttal to me pointing out how stupid your suggestion that because LGBT are oppressed MORE, that means we should completely shaft everyone else. You wanna come out in favor of house-slaves?
Got anything better than just avoiding the point?
Considering you avoided mine admirably, I'd say that you're doing enough of that on your own.

by Ifreann » Mon May 20, 2013 4:22 pm
Starkindler wrote:Ifreann wrote:Computer?
TCP/IP stack to be more precise, the definitions are taken from the OSI layers.
If we are debating the nuances of gender theory, then we should start to see that there are at least three different layers:
Physical layer: "I have a penis (male)/vagina (female)/both (intersex)." < Sex
Application layer: "I am a male/female/agendered/genderfluid/snowflake/tumblr/etc." < Gender. As one identifies self to self. Can be different from sex.
Presentation layer: "To the outside, I present myself as male/female/androgyne/snowflake/tumblr." < Presentation. As one identifies to others and appears before others. Can be different from either sex or gender, however, closely correlates to gender.

by Prusseuss » Mon May 20, 2013 4:23 pm

by Nieuw Kaap » Mon May 20, 2013 4:24 pm
Prusseuss wrote:I am not sure if I am bisexual or not.Can somebody help me ?

by Arcturus Novus » Mon May 20, 2013 4:24 pm


by TaQud » Mon May 20, 2013 4:24 pm

by Seiru » Mon May 20, 2013 4:25 pm
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by Frisivisia » Mon May 20, 2013 4:25 pm
Prusseuss wrote:I am not sure if I am bisexual or not.Can somebody help me ?

by Olthar » Mon May 20, 2013 4:25 pm
Prusseuss wrote:I am not sure if I am bisexual or not.Can somebody help me ?

by Ostroeuropa » Mon May 20, 2013 4:26 pm
Olthar wrote:Prusseuss wrote:I am not sure if I am bisexual or not.Can somebody help me ?
Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the same gender?
Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the opposite gender?
If you answered yes to both questions, then you're bisexual. If you answered no to one or both questions, then you're not.

by Prusseuss » Mon May 20, 2013 4:27 pm

by Ifreann » Mon May 20, 2013 4:29 pm
Olthar wrote:Prusseuss wrote:I am not sure if I am bisexual or not.Can somebody help me ?
Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the same gender?
Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the opposite gender?
If you answered yes to both questions, then you're bisexual. If you answered no to one or both questions, then you're not.

by Starkindler » Mon May 20, 2013 4:29 pm
Ifreann wrote:Starkindler wrote:
TCP/IP stack to be more precise, the definitions are taken from the OSI layers.
If we are debating the nuances of gender theory, then we should start to see that there are at least three different layers:
Physical layer: "I have a penis (male)/vagina (female)/both (intersex)." < Sex
Application layer: "I am a male/female/agendered/genderfluid/snowflake/tumblr/etc." < Gender. As one identifies self to self. Can be different from sex.
Presentation layer: "To the outside, I present myself as male/female/androgyne/snowflake/tumblr." < Presentation. As one identifies to others and appears before others. Can be different from either sex or gender, however, closely correlates to gender.
I figured computer rather than OSI layers because there's more to people than these three layers.
Prusseuss wrote:I am not sure if I am bisexual or not.Can somebody help me ?

by Olthar » Mon May 20, 2013 4:30 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Olthar wrote:Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the same gender?
Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the opposite gender?
If you answered yes to both questions, then you're bisexual. If you answered no to one or both questions, then you're not.
I'd say you would have to feel it often, or above a certain ratio. Otherwise we're casting a very wide net.
Google for male porn pictures, google for female porn pictures.
Try and find a top 10 list somewhere.
If you find at least half of both lists sexually arousing, you're probably bisexual. If you find one set disproportionately more attractive, that's your sexuality.
If you find one or two attractive from one set, you may be "Mostly Straight/Gay." which is what most people are, in my opinion.
Armadrone wrote:interesting there more asexual males than females. Just goes to show that men stereotyped non emotional and just walking sex machines.


by Schmiegelland » Mon May 20, 2013 4:30 pm

by Ostroeuropa » Mon May 20, 2013 4:31 pm
Olthar wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
I'd say you would have to feel it often, or above a certain ratio. Otherwise we're casting a very wide net.
Google for male porn pictures, google for female porn pictures.
Try and find a top 10 list somewhere.
If you find at least half of both lists sexually arousing, you're probably bisexual. If you find one set disproportionately more attractive, that's your sexuality.
If you find one or two attractive from one set, you may be "Mostly Straight/Gay." which is what most people are, in my opinion.
Google search for porn? Oh, Ostro. You're quite the naive one, aren't you?
Armadrone wrote:interesting there more asexual males than females. Just goes to show that men stereotyped non emotional and just walking sex machines.
Or, alternatively, there is simply a disproportionately large number of males on NS. Maybe that's it?

by Olthar » Mon May 20, 2013 4:33 pm
Ifreann wrote:Frisivisia wrote:Would you enjoy fucking men?
Would you enjoy fucking women?
Answer these two questions and you'll figure it out.Olthar wrote:Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the same gender?
Do you feel sexual attraction to those of the opposite gender?
If you answered yes to both questions, then you're bisexual. If you answered no to one or both questions, then you're not.
Alternatively, your local witch doctor can perform a spell to reveal your One True Sexuality.
Ostroeuropa wrote:Olthar wrote:Google search for porn? Oh, Ostro. You're quite the naive one, aren't you?![]()
Or, alternatively, there is simply a disproportionately large number of males on NS. Maybe that's it?
I don't really partake in porn. Never seen the point. I gather the google machine can take you anywhere in the series of tubes.


by Olthar » Mon May 20, 2013 4:42 pm

by The Steel Magnolia » Mon May 20, 2013 4:49 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I could point out that you are a feminist, a liberal etc and say you are just a political transgendered individual, not really transgendered. Secretly a man pretending to be transgendered to make a point etc.
Now consider how it feels to be told that and apply it to me. I'm somewhat annoyed, but then I have no way of proving how I identify myself, and nor do you. All we can do is take eachothers word for it.
I'm perfectly willing to elaborate when I realized this about myself if you want.
Equality does mean the same for everyone. Unless you are arguing that one section of society is inherently worse and/or unable to do something than another section. Which is something i'm open to. I completely agree that we need welfare for some of the disabled and mentally disabled who are incapable of doing certain things.
If they are not inherently worse at something, then why not treat them equally?
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