What is the gender of nationstates

[Dreztelstan]

Bisexual male

[Esternial]

Nope, because that would make you bisexual.

The love for furries is on a different level compared to homosexuality and heterosexuality. These categories influence eachother directly. Being heterosexual and homosexual means you're bisexual. You can be a bisexual furry as well.

Furry can be considered more of an "add-on" rather than actually within the category. It can be removed or added to ANY combination of sexuality.

The same is true of homosexuality if you view it as it should be viewed, namely "enjoying sex with the same gender"

To which you can add "...with a furry suit"

Saying you enjoy furry sex doesn't imply anything about which gender your enjoy sex with. Saying you enjoy gay furry sex does.

Which is why it doesn't belong within the group that has "gender" as it's common denominator, making it a category in which furry sex does not belong.

[Neutraligon]

Homosexual activity=/=Being homosexual.

Well your point was that someone can be a homosexual and a furry, so furry cannot possibly be a sexuality.
My point is that someone can be homosexual and heterosexual (Bisexual.), so homosexuality cannot possibly be a sexuality.

If we assume someone somewhere is a furry and only enjoys furry sex, then this comparrison completely stands up.
Homosexuals sometimes do have sex with people of the opposite gender, just as heterosexuals may have sex with the opposite. Whats important, apparently, is that they identify as enjoying a particular type of sex.

Umm bisexuality is not homosexual (exclusively interested in those of same gender) and heterosexuality (exclusively interested in the opposite gender) Bisexuality is interest in both genders. A person who is furry is still either interested in a male or a female (or both or whatever). they still fall under the spectrum of sexuality, they just enjoy doing it with people who are dressed up. Same with BDSM, they are still interseted in people of certain genders, the just have a preference in how it is done.

[Linux and the X]

You seem to think that because the two women fucking decide to make the fact that they fuck women a major part of their identity that they deserve special protection, when that simply cannot be justified.

Your problem there is "decide". Gay people are not attracted to other genders any more than heterosexual people are attracted to the same gender. That's why it's a central part of identity: it determines who one is sexually and romantically interested in; one doesn't simply "decide" on it.

[Ostroeuropa]

Well your point was that someone can be a homosexual and a furry, so furry cannot possibly be a sexuality.
My point is that someone can be homosexual and heterosexual (Bisexual.), so homosexuality cannot possibly be a sexuality.

If we assume someone somewhere is a furry and only enjoys furry sex, then this comparrison completely stands up.
Homosexuals sometimes do have sex with people of the opposite gender, just as heterosexuals may have sex with the opposite. Whats important, apparently, is that they identify as enjoying a particular type of sex.

Umm bisexuality is not homosexual (exclusively interested in those of same gender) and heterosexuality (exclusively interested in the opposite gender) Bisexuality is interest in both genders. A person who is furry is still either interested in a male or a female (or both or whatever). they still fall under the spectrum of sexuality, they just enjoy doing it with people who are dressed up. Same with BDSM, they are still interseted in people of certain genders, the just have a preference in how it is done.

But why do we class homosexuality as exclusive interest in a particular gender, rather than as enjoying sex with a particular gender.
We've created special conditions for these very few categories, and it smacks of special pleading.
We don't say "You aren't a BDSM because you don't EXCLUSIVELY have interest in BDSM people."
Basically, i'm asking why you think the gender people have sex with is particularly important.
Why, if the gender varies, does the sex act suddenly become more unique and/or part of an "identity" than if the equipment varies?

[Phocidaea]

I think it's amusing that according to this poll nearly 70% of females here are LGB (I'm not getting into Ts here), while less than 25% of males are...

And, of course, both numbers are freakin' massive compared with even the most liberal (not political either, Cosara) poll estimates.

What is it with the internet and bisexuality, in particular?

[Obrenovacia]

Male to Female transsexual. Post-op to boot.

I'm now straight

Yeah, screw the rest of us who can't/don't want surgery! Sexuality is about genitals, nothing more!

Good lord.

Wow... passive-aggressive much?

[Kvatchdom]

I think it's amusing that according to this poll nearly 70% of females here are LGB (I'm not getting into Ts here), while less than 25% of males are...

And, of course, both numbers are freakin' massive compared with even the most liberal (not political either, Cosara) poll estimates.

What is it with the internet and bisexuality, in particular?

Women are more open to new things.

[Olthar]

I think it's amusing that according to this poll nearly 70% of females here are LGB (I'm not getting into Ts here), while less than 25% of males are...

And, of course, both numbers are freakin' massive compared with even the most liberal (not political either, Cosara) poll estimates.

What is it with the internet and bisexuality, in particular?

LGBT individuals tend to be inherently socially liberal, and NS has a very obvious liberal bias, even if there is a loudly vocal conservative minority. Thus, it's not out of the question for the numbers to be skewed a bit. As to why they're so monstrously skewed, I have no idea. NS has always been weird like that.

[Ostroeuropa]

I feel the need to elaborate on how this whole argument looks from my perspective.

Imagine a whole hotel full of people having sex.
They are all having sex in different ways with different equipment, or perhaps no equipment.

Suddenly, they decide to divide themselves into different rooms based on one particular aspect of it (gender.)

The people then begin fucking again, but still exclusively with the people who use the equipment they like.

Then, when someone says "Why don't we divide based on equipment?"
the reply comes "Because it's not a type of gender."

As though that answers the question at all. It hasn't answered the question, and it hasn't answered the obvious follow up "Why divide based on gender anyway?"

[Kvatchdom]

I feel the need to elaborate on how this whole argument looks from my perspective.

Imagine a whole hotel full of people having sex.
They are all having sex in different ways with different equipment, or perhaps no equipment.

Suddenly, they decide to divide themselves into different rooms based on one particular aspect of it (gender.)

The people then begin fucking again, but still exclusively with the people who use the equipment they like.

Then, when someone says "Why don't we divide based on equipment?"
the reply comes "Because it's not a type of gender."

As though that answers the question at all.

You think too much. Leave the thinking to the scientists.

[Ostroeuropa]

I feel the need to elaborate on how this whole argument looks from my perspective.

Imagine a whole hotel full of people having sex.
They are all having sex in different ways with different equipment, or perhaps no equipment.

Suddenly, they decide to divide themselves into different rooms based on one particular aspect of it (gender.)

The people then begin fucking again, but still exclusively with the people who use the equipment they like.

Then, when someone says "Why don't we divide based on equipment?"
the reply comes "Because it's not a type of gender."

As though that answers the question at all.

You think too much. Leave the thinking to the scientists.

Why, is that what you do?

[Kvatchdom]

You think too much. Leave the thinking to the scientists.

Why, is that what you do?

It's what a commoner would and should do. We're simply not smart enough.

[Lost Memories]

I think it's amusing that according to this poll nearly 70% of females here are LGB (I'm not getting into Ts here), while less than 25% of males are...

And, of course, both numbers are freakin' massive compared with even the most liberal (not political either, Cosara) poll estimates.

What is it with the internet and bisexuality, in particular?

Amusing, yes.
Surprising for NS, no.

[Libertarian California]

This website is a fucking sausage fest.

[Kvatchdom]

This website is a fucking sausage fest.

Someone understands me

[TaQud]

This website is a fucking sausage fest.

i already said that.

Holy fuck, that's a lot of guys.

its as if NSG is one giant sausage fest.

[Esternial]

I feel the need to elaborate on how this whole argument looks from my perspective.

Imagine a whole hotel full of people having sex.
They are all having sex in different ways with different equipment, or perhaps no equipment.

Suddenly, they decide to divide themselves into different rooms based on one particular aspect of it (gender.)

The people then begin fucking again, but still exclusively with the people who use the equipment they like.

Then, when someone says "Why don't we divide based on equipment?"
the reply comes "Because it's not a type of gender."

As though that answers the question at all. It hasn't answered the question, and it hasn't answered the obvious follow up "Why divide based on gender anyway?"

On what basis would you divide otherwise?

Actually, if you divide based on equipment the argument still lies in my favour, since the parades would be advocating for equality throughout the entire category that does not use any exceedingly unusual equipment.

[The Archregimancy]

This website is a fucking sausage fest.

That sounds tasty.

ModEdit: Spoiler tags - learn to use them for picspam, please.

[Ostroeuropa]

I feel the need to elaborate on how this whole argument looks from my perspective.

Imagine a whole hotel full of people having sex.
They are all having sex in different ways with different equipment, or perhaps no equipment.

Suddenly, they decide to divide themselves into different rooms based on one particular aspect of it (gender.)

The people then begin fucking again, but still exclusively with the people who use the equipment they like.

Then, when someone says "Why don't we divide based on equipment?"
the reply comes "Because it's not a type of gender."

As though that answers the question at all. It hasn't answered the question, and it hasn't answered the obvious follow up "Why divide based on gender anyway?"

On what basis would you divide otherwise?

Actually, if you divide based on equipment the argument still lies in my favour, since the parades would be advocating for equality throughout the entire category that does not use any exceedingly unusual equipment.

But thats my point. It's just bizarre when you consider that the parades, by advocating in such a way, you would completely shaft people who don't use equipment but were still shunned by society for being, say, homosexual.
The choice of which division to make important seems arbitrary when you consider that it could just as easily be the other way around.

[Neutraligon]

Umm bisexuality is not homosexual (exclusively interested in those of same gender) and heterosexuality (exclusively interested in the opposite gender) Bisexuality is interest in both genders. A person who is furry is still either interested in a male or a female (or both or whatever). they still fall under the spectrum of sexuality, they just enjoy doing it with people who are dressed up. Same with BDSM, they are still interseted in people of certain genders, the just have a preference in how it is done.

But why do we class homosexuality as exclusive interest in a particular gender, rather than as enjoying sex with a particular gender.
We've created special conditions for these very few categories, and it smacks of special pleading.
We don't say "You aren't a BDSM because you don't EXCLUSIVELY have interest in BDSM people."
Basically, i'm asking why you think the gender people have sex with is particularly important.
Why, if the gender varies, does the sex act suddenly become more unique and/or part of an "identity" than if the equipment varies?

NO Homosexual people don't enjoy sex with a particular gender, they are sexually attracted to a specific gender, BDSM is not like that at all, they enjoy having sex doing certain things. I don't see it as important, beyond the fact that we are legally not treated the same. A BDSM couple, as long as they are opposite sexes can and do have the same rights. The same holds true for furries.

[Esternial]

On what basis would you divide otherwise?

Actually, if you divide based on equipment the argument still lies in my favour, since the parades would be advocating for equality throughout the entire category that does not use any exceedingly unusual equipment.

But thats my point. It's just bizarre when you consider that the parades, by advocating in such a way, you would completely shaft people who don't use equipment but were still shunned by society for being, say, homosexual.

Hmm...could you elaborate?

[The Balkin States]

PLEASE STOP SAYING GENDER = SEX. IT DOESN'T.

It is bothering me so much when people use the terms incorrectly. I mean sex is half the letters anyway, you should use it instead of gender unless you are talking about transgenderism, gender identity, etc.

[Ostroeuropa]

But thats my point. It's just bizarre when you consider that the parades, by advocating in such a way, you would completely shaft people who don't use equipment but were still shunned by society for being, say, homosexual.

Hmm...could you elaborate?

In a universe where the divisions went down along equipment lines, the "Majority" would probably be people who do not use equipment. They'd go around extoling the virtues of "Natural" sex, saying using add-ons is "Unnatural", the usual shit.
People who enjoy having sex and using equipment get divided into various categories based on the type they use, and oppressed for it.
In addition to this, homosexuals and lesbians receive discrimination against them even if they don't use equipment.
Then along comes an equipment pride parade that explicitly tells homosexuals and lesbians they cannot be a part of the parade, because
"fucking males and fucking females is not a type of equipment, it's just a gender preference. That's completely different." or some shit.

When the ACTUAL problem is people facing discrimination for the type of sex they take part in. NOT the type of equipment they use, etc.
Ofcourse fucking males and fucking females isn't a type of equipment, but thats not the point.
If you're going to fight for sexual equality and you just shun people because they don't fit YOUR particular dividing lines, then thats a shitty thing to do

[Living Freedom Land]

This website is a fucking sausage fest.

I tend to enjoy predominantly male internet communities. I'm in college and women outnumber men there. I also have a tumblr and there's a ton of girls on there, so it's nice to be able to get away from them sometimes (not that I don't enjoy the company of women).

Anyway, I'm a straight male. Although my mother thought I was gay one time because I have a gay friend. That was not a pleasant experience, and I can only imagine how bad it is for some people who are actually homosexual.