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Male
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82%
Female
59
10%
Genderqueer/fluid
33
5%
MtF transgender
15
2%
FtM Transgender
5
1%
 
Total votes : 620

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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:57 am

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Now, now settle down. Thats really not necessary.


I entirely disagree.

Every other teenager on the internet 'has aspergers'.

Why is this? So they can excuse, or attempt to excuse, their behaviour and can comfort themselves by believing that the reason they have no friends isn't because they're an awful person but is because of some disorder they've never been diagnosed with but have decided to adopt in order to feel better when they cry themselves to sleep.



I wouldn't quite say that, the people who usually say that they have Aspergers are ones who just want to irritate everyone and not be constructive.
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Postby Nadkor » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:58 am

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Transgender isn't a gender. Someone who is MtF doesn't have a gender of MtF they, generally but with some exceptions, have a gender of female.

The poll is bad and anybody who liked it should feel bad.


I am fully capable of understanding that Transgendered people dont identify as trans. However, I want to keep things as accurate as a NS poll can be (not very)


You see, what your poll does is it implicitly denies the gender identity of trans people.

Why are you so transphobic?
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Postby Risottia » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:59 am

FABULOUS.
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Postby Nadkor » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:00 am

Rumostan wrote:
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I entirely disagree.

Every other teenager on the internet 'has aspergers'.

Why is this? So they can excuse, or attempt to excuse, their behaviour and can comfort themselves by believing that the reason they have no friends isn't because they're an awful person but is because of some disorder they've never been diagnosed with but have decided to adopt in order to feel better when they cry themselves to sleep.



I wouldn't quite say that, the people who usually say that they have Aspergers are ones who just want to irritate everyone and not be constructive.


No.

Plenty of people do this without claiming anything.

The people who claim to have aspegers are the ones who want to do this and then claim impunity because they've decided to have a disorder.
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Postby Rodrania » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:00 am

Risottia wrote:FABULOUS.


:lol2: :rofl:

It's wrong if i laugh?
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Postby Risottia » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:01 am

Rodrania wrote:
Risottia wrote:FABULOUS.


:lol2: :rofl:

It's wrong if i laugh?


No. :)
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:05 am

Arglorand wrote:Nationstates doesn't have a gender.

But if it was a person, I'm pretty sure it'd be Max Barry, thus male.

Oh, I get it now. NationStates is a daddy, which is why there are so many libs here. You know, Daddy State and all.
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Postby TaQud » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:07 am

Alien Space Bats wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Nationstates doesn't have a gender.

But if it was a person, I'm pretty sure it'd be Max Barry, thus male.

Oh, I get it now. NationStates is a daddy, which is why there are so many libs here. You know, Daddy State and all.

is the mommy [violet]? :lol: :p
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Postby Icesun » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:07 am

Nadkor wrote:
Rumostan wrote:

I wouldn't quite say that, the people who usually say that they have Aspergers are ones who just want to irritate everyone and not be constructive.


No.

Plenty of people do this without claiming anything.

The people who claim to have aspegers are the ones who want to do this and then claim impunity because they've decided to have a disorder.



I'm 24 years old and my Aspergers was diagnosed in December of 2011 by Dr. [NAME REDACTED] of the [LOCATION REDACTED] ADHD and Asperger's Team so that the evidence could be given during legal proceedings.

I'm NOT asking for any privilege to be excused from being called on messing up or behavior that's wrong, flaming etc - I actually appreciated it being pointed out to me so that I can correct my behavior. I told them I had Aspergers' because it would be nice if people DIDN'T use it as some negative stereotype for every kind of thread or post they think is stupid.

Also: Nadkor - That was unacceptable and cruel behavior in your post that was completely uncalled for and unnecessary.
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:11 am

TaQud wrote:
Alien Space Bats wrote:Oh, I get it now. NationStates is a daddy, which is why there are so many libs here. You know, Daddy State and all.

is the mommy [violet]? :lol: :p

I think Max did a whole lot better than [violet]. How he managed that, I have no idea, but...

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:13 am

Icesun wrote:I'm 24 years old and (edit: snipped for privacy)...


Protip: posting personally-relevant data on the Internet isn't always a good idea.

Also, I think that with a minimal effort we could keep the thread on topic. /notamod
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Postby Slembana » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:15 am

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Postby Icesun » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:19 am

Risottia wrote:
Icesun wrote:I'm 24 years old and my Aspergers was diagnosed in December of 2011 by Dr. [NAME REDACTED] of the [LOCATION REDACTED] ADHD and Asperger's Team so that the evidence could be given during legal proceedings.

I'm NOT asking for any privilege to be excused from being called on messing up or behavior that's wrong, flaming etc - I actually appreciated it being pointed out to me so that I can correct my behavior. I told them I had Aspergers' because it would be nice if people DIDN'T use it as some negative stereotype for every kind of thread or post they think is stupid.


Protip: posting personally-relevant data on the Internet isn't always a good idea.

Also, I think that with a minimal effort we could keep the thread on topic. /notamod


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Postby Esternial » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:23 am

Well, last month's survey has confirmed your suspicions.

As will next month's and the one after that.

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Postby Bralia » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:24 am

Potenco wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Nationstates doesn't have a gender.

But if it was a person, I'm pretty sure it'd be Max Barry, thus male.


OK, to clear things up people, im asking what the gender of the people on nationstates are. Im asking what YOUR gender is!

Well hell, I could have used that information two posts before that. :p. I just voted that Nationstates' gender as genderqueer . . .
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:46 am

I picked one of the ones I'm not, because there's a limit to how many of these threads you can see before they lose their novelty value and interest.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:02 am

On topic everyone, please.

If you want to discuss the validity of Aspergers diagnoses, please start a thread accordingly.


As to the the OP, I think people are unnecessarily restricting the answer to Western conceptions of gender, when we should be willing to consider the full panoply of grammatical gender.

For example, I offer the ten genders of the African language Luganda.

In Luganda, NationStates' gender would likely be classified under the Class IV category for miscellaneous inanimate objects (though most mods have likely been tempted to occasionally make NSG a Class VIII noun).


A more apropos example, however, comes from Dravidian languages, where all nouns are initially classed as either rational or irrational prior to further subdivision. Only humans and deities are rational, and only these nouns can be masculine, feminine, or neuter; all other nouns are irrational, and can only be singular or plural.

I therefore offer the possibility that to several million people in southern India, NationStates' gender is best listed as 'irrational'.
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Postby Potenco » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:06 am

Nadkor wrote:
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I am fully capable of understanding that Transgendered people dont identify as trans. However, I want to keep things as accurate as a NS poll can be (not very)


You see, what your poll does is it implicitly denies the gender identity of trans people.

Why are you so transphobic?


Its not transphobia, ive dated a transgendered person for gods sake. Its simply because I want to gain a more accurate view of this sites demographics. Admittedly, I should have used another possible term.

However, I reall don't think ive offended any transgendered people on this site.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:11 am

Arglorand wrote:Nationstates doesn't have a gender.

But if it was a person, I'm pretty sure it'd be Max Barry, thus male.

No, it wouldn't be Max Barry. NS is an Eldritch Abomination. I'm almost certain every time Max logs in, he goes "My god....what hath I created?".

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:17 am

The Archregimancy wrote:For example, I offer the ten genders of the African language Luganda.

Well, not quite "genders"...

...Dravidian... Only humans and deities are rational,

I assume they might have some problems when translating Lovecraft.
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Postby Arglorand » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:19 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Nationstates doesn't have a gender.

But if it was a person, I'm pretty sure it'd be Max Barry, thus male.

No, it wouldn't be Max Barry. NS is an Eldritch Abomination. I'm almost certain every time Max logs in, he goes "My god....what hath I created?".

Fair enough. The next question, then, I believe, would be: what kind of an abomination NS is? Considering its way to entice people despite the suffering they go through on NSG, I think it's plausible that it could be a siren.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:00 pm

Risottia wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:For example, I offer the ten genders of the African language Luganda.

Well, not quite "genders"...


Yes, but "noun classes that perform the same function in Luganda as genders do in Indo-European languages" doesn't sound quite so snappy, does it?

"Genders" works perfectly well as a grammatical shorthand for the purposes of quick observation.

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