Tight Beef Supply, Numbers Dwindling, Grazing Land Gone

[Greed and Death]

Ive been told Profit margins are higher in the Dallas area with Korean cattle as they are leaner and eat less, and Korean restaurants and consumers pay more for them try that.

[DogDoo 7]

Beef prices in the US are too fucking low as it is. Hamburger should NEVER cost $1.99/lb

Anyway, start raising rabbits I guess. Or be like the rest of the world and only eat meat as a "sometimes" food.

Sorry, but why would we want to lower our standard of living like that?

This is a high standard of living?

[Big Jim P]

Sorry, but why would we want to lower our standard of living like that?

This is a high standard of living?

I see no humans living there. Just food animals.

Edit: "Cowchwitz"? Really nice. Comparing the killing of animals to the holocaust.

[Greed and Death]

Beef prices in the US are too fucking low as it is. Hamburger should NEVER cost $1.99/lb

Anyway, start raising rabbits I guess. Or be like the rest of the world and only eat meat as a "sometimes" food.

1.99/lb is ridiculous, I demand federal tax dollar to reduce them to $.45/lb.

[Shallowell]

Now it is the vegetarians' turn to gloat.

This is where I gloat.

[Big Jim P]

Sorry, but why would we want to lower our standard of living like that?

someone who doesn't consider the regular consumption of meat to be a standard of living indicator I guess.

I eat meat every day. Beef usually, bison occasionally. All other meats are what you eat when you don't have beef.

[Gun Manufacturers]

All this talk of beef makes me want to purchase another brisket flat to slow smoke on the grill.

Here's a pic of my first brisket (my camera broke between the first and second brisket, which is why there's no pics of that one), with the fat cap scored.

[The UK in Exile]

someone who doesn't consider the regular consumption of meat to be a standard of living indicator I guess.

I eat meat every day. Beef usually, bison occasionally. All other meats are what you eat when you don't have beef.

not denying its delicious. just not synonymous with a high standard of living.

[Big Jim P]

I eat meat every day. Beef usually, bison occasionally. All other meats are what you eat when you don't have beef.

not denying its delicious. just not synonymous with a high standard of living.

No it is not. It is the basic standard of living.

[DogDoo 7]

someone who doesn't consider the regular consumption of meat to be a standard of living indicator I guess.

I eat meat every day. Beef usually, bison occasionally. All other meats are what you eat when you don't have beef.

Raising beef puts a lot of stress on the environment. That's why it should be priced as the luxury it is. Also, don't you live in the woods or something? Deer is fucking delicious, and they raise themselves. I've started eating lots of chicken hearts. They're cheap-ish, and every heart is one chicken, so you feel like a chicken mass-murderer when you're done.

All this talk of beef makes me want to purchase another brisket flat to slow smoke on the grill.

Here's a pic of my first brisket (my camera broke between the first and second brisket, which is why there's no pics of that one), with the fat cap scored.

(Image)

Nice one. How long did it take to cook?

[Big Jim P]

I eat meat every day. Beef usually, bison occasionally. All other meats are what you eat when you don't have beef.

Raising beef puts a lot of stress on the environment. That's why it should be priced as the luxury it is. Also, don't you live in the woods or something? Deer is fucking delicious, and they raise themselves. I've started eating lots of chicken hearts. They're cheap-ish, and every heart is one chicken, so you feel like a chicken mass-murderer when you're done.

Deer is indeed delicious, and I do live in the woods. However I do not have the time to hunt.

[DogDoo 7]

Raising beef puts a lot of stress on the environment. That's why it should be priced as the luxury it is. Also, don't you live in the woods or something? Deer is fucking delicious, and they raise themselves. I've started eating lots of chicken hearts. They're cheap-ish, and every heart is one chicken, so you feel like a chicken mass-murderer when you're done.

Deer is indeed delicious, and I do live in the woods. However I do not have the time to hunt.

Can't you just set up traps or something?

[The UK in Exile]

not denying its delicious. just not synonymous with a high standard of living.

No it is not. It is the basic standard of living.

its definitely not that.

[DogDoo 7]

No it is not. It is the basic standard of living.

its definitely not that.

Yeah. Here the basics are bread, olive oil, yogurt, eggs, and vegetables. Anything more is a luxury.

[The Serbian Empire]

I eat meat every day. Beef usually, bison occasionally. All other meats are what you eat when you don't have beef.

Raising beef puts a lot of stress on the environment. That's why it should be priced as the luxury it is. Also, don't you live in the woods or something? Deer is fucking delicious, and they raise themselves. I've started eating lots of chicken hearts. They're cheap-ish, and every heart is one chicken, so you feel like a chicken mass-murderer when you're done.

All this talk of beef makes me want to purchase another brisket flat to slow smoke on the grill.

Here's a pic of my first brisket (my camera broke between the first and second brisket, which is why there's no pics of that one), with the fat cap scored.

(Image)

Nice one. How long did it take to cook?

States restrict deer hunting to a season. Once you're out of venison, you have to look elsewhere for meat.

[Ryan12]

you gotta sell were the money is at, and that is china. they are demanding western food

[Castille de Italia]

you gotta sell were the money is at, and that is china. they are demanding western food

They aren't necessarily demanding western food, it's the fact that large manufacturing companies are bogged down with government regulations, and move operations to countries like China, because they have little regard for the environment. Plus, the climate there isn't suitable for the large-scale agriculture that the United States has. You can't grow corn or wheat easily in China. I don't know much about beef cattle there, but I know it's not a whole lot and the land there isn't suitable enough for beef cattle. Plus, the industrial farms that are in the US now aren't going to pack up and move. It costs a lot of money to ship that many animals.

[Diopolis]

Deer is indeed delicious, and I do live in the woods. However I do not have the time to hunt.

Can't you just set up traps or something?

That's illegal almost everywhere.

[Ostroeuropa]

What is your opinion on "Grown meat" or cloned meat as a solution to this problem?
It would fill the shortness in supply with a cheaper, if somewhat lesser quality, beef.

In addition, it may provide a long term solution as the methodology improves to the problem and render cattle unraised except for milk and leather, with our meat grown artificially. Which I suppose may make the vegetarians happy.

[Diopolis]

What is your opinion on "Grown meat" or cloned meat as a solution to this problem?
It would fill the shortness in supply with a cheaper, if somewhat lesser quality, beef.

I doubt that it is ready for commercial use.

[Ostroeuropa]

What is your opinion on "Grown meat" or cloned meat as a solution to this problem?
It would fill the shortness in supply with a cheaper, if somewhat lesser quality, beef.

I doubt that it is ready for commercial use.

I've heard that it is. It's just noone is willing to eat it. Or at least, thats what they tell marketers. Hence, no company invests the necessary money to begin production.

[Ostroeuropa]

As early as 2008, some scientists claimed that the technology was ready for commercial use and simply needed a company to back it

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=90235492

[The UK in Exile]

I doubt that it is ready for commercial use.

I've heard that it is. It's just noone is willing to eat it. Or at least, thats what they tell marketers. Hence, no company invests the necessary money to begin production.

its not commercially viable. yet.

[Immoren]

What is your opinion on "Grown meat" or cloned meat as a solution to this problem?
It would fill the shortness in supply with a cheaper, if somewhat lesser quality, beef.

In addition, it may provide a long term solution as the methodology improves to the problem and render cattle unraised except for milk and leather, with our meat grown artificially. Which I suppose may make the vegetarians happy.

The day when you and your ilk are replaced by protein vat operators is fast coming.

I, for one, welcome our new petrifood overlords.

[Ostroeuropa]

I've heard that it is. It's just noone is willing to eat it. Or at least, thats what they tell marketers. Hence, no company invests the necessary money to begin production.

its not commercially viable. yet.

Sources disagree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat

It is already being sold at a high price due to the lack of mass production and novelty value.
Whether it is commercially viable to sell to a mass market is another matter.
Marketers seem to think people will not eat it, and so no large company will invest. It is however, perfectly fit for human consumption.