So, Abortion.

[Auralia]

Laws, including the legal definition of "person", are rooted in reason, empirical evidence, and ethics. So please give me a reason why not all human beings should receive the fundamental human right (i.e. right to life) associated with human personhood.

Why would I do that?

...because you want to debate abortion?

[Vazdania]

fucking no. The women consented to sex which may or may not result in a fetus depending on if nature allows the child to remain in the womb. Now the women knowingly had sex and know the consequences thereof. ALL people start out life in such a (albeit parasitic) manner, but even parasites are organisms.

Right. The woman consented to sex (which may or may not) result in a fetus (which may or may not) embed in the womb. But the woman who couldn't resist lust and decided to consent to sex has to bear all the responsibilities that befalls on her shoulder even if men don't.

unfortunately.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Then please don't make it anymore.

I'm not fucking talking to you

I politely ask you not to make bad arguments that smack of rationale of rape apologists, and you reply back with profanity and immaturity. Fine, as you wish.

[Mavorpen]

Why would I do that?

...because you want to debate abortion?

And I've done so. Seriously, why would I repeat myself when I've said this all before already?

[Vazdania]

Look, the human being ended up inside of you through your actions. The human being had no say in the matter. Now you want to kill the human instead of giving birth to him/her. Sounds a bit selfish doesn't it?

Sounds pretty selfish of that human being to expect me to allow it to use my body as a life support machine when I don't want it there.

Granted, I recognize that embryos do not have feelings or a concept of self so being selfish is beyond their capabilities.

you chose to have sex though initially and you know the consequences of having sex which The possibility of a child which must develop first.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Look, the human being ended up inside of you through your actions. The human being had no say in the matter. Now you want to kill the human instead of giving birth to him/her. Sounds a bit selfish doesn't it?

Sounds pretty selfish of that human being to expect me to allow it to use my body as a life support machine when I don't want it there.

Apparently this concept for them is too alien, them being all male and what not.

[Asuiop]

I'm not fucking talking to you

I politely ask you not to make bad arguments that smack of rationale of rape apologists, and you reply back with profanity and immaturity. Fine, as you wish.

I mistakedly made a bad arguement that happened to correspond with rape apologists, and you make immaturely made fun of it and added insult to injury after I admitted to making a bad arguement. And yes, I am fucking profane. Call it immature, call it whatever you like, I really don't care.

[Dakini]

"You didn't want to start a trend, you unknowingly made a terrible argument and everyone else was forced to find it hilarious."

"You didn't want to make an argument on NationStates, you unknowingly went onto the forums and you were forced to post."

Hmm... I'm not sure where to go on the relevant to thread versions, so I'll take a diversion...

"Gravity didn't want to hurt you, you unknowingly picked a terrible parachute so when you jumped and it didn't deploy, the rapid deceleration upon hitting the ground forced your shinbones to splinter into a million pieces."

...a diversion to physics puns.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Sounds pretty selfish of that human being to expect me to allow it to use my body as a life support machine when I don't want it there.

Granted, I recognize that embryos do not have feelings or a concept of self so being selfish is beyond their capabilities.

you chose to have sex though initially and you know the consequences of having sex which The possibility of a child which must develop first.

You do realize that woman just can not have procreative sex on their own, right? But you have the gall to say this:

fucking no. The women consented to sex which may or may not result in a fetus depending on if nature allows the child to remain in the womb. Now the women knowingly had sex and know the consequences thereof. ALL people start out life in such a (albeit parasitic) manner, but even parasites are organisms.

Right. The woman consented to sex (which may or may not) result in a fetus (which may or may not) embed in the womb. But the woman who couldn't resist lust and decided to consent to sex has to bear all the responsibilities that befalls on her shoulder even if men don't.

unfortunately.

[Dakini]

Sounds pretty selfish of that human being to expect me to allow it to use my body as a life support machine when I don't want it there.

Apparently this concept for them is too alien, them being all male and what not.

Seems so.

[Asuiop]

"You didn't want to make an argument on NationStates, you unknowingly went onto the forums and you were forced to post."

Hmm... I'm not sure where to go on the relevant to thread versions, so I'll take a diversion...

"Gravity didn't want to hurt you, you unknowingly picked a terrible parachute so when you jumped and it didn't deploy, the rapid deceleration upon hitting the ground forced your shinbones to splinter into a million pieces."

...a diversion to physics puns.

Thats actually pretty good

[Vazdania]

you chose to have sex though initially and you know the consequences of having sex which The possibility of a child which must develop first.

You do realize that woman just can not have procreative sex on their own, right? But you have the gall to say this:

unfortunately.

i do realize this

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

You do realize that woman just can not have procreative sex on their own, right? But you have the gall to say this:

i do realize this

Do you understand the definition of misogynist?

[Vazdania]

i do realize this

Do you understand the definition of misogynist?

yes

[Individuality-ness]

"You didn't want to make an argument on NationStates, you unknowingly went onto the forums and you were forced to post."

Hmm... I'm not sure where to go on the relevant to thread versions, so I'll take a diversion...

"Gravity didn't want to hurt you, you unknowingly picked a terrible parachute so when you jumped and it didn't deploy, the rapid deceleration upon hitting the ground forced your shinbones to splinter into a million pieces."

...a diversion to physics puns.

Poor gravity.

"HCl didn't want to hurt you, you unknowingly splashed some 3.00 M solution on your arm and the acid was forced to dissolve through your lab coat and onto your skin."

[Dakini]

Sounds pretty selfish of that human being to expect me to allow it to use my body as a life support machine when I don't want it there.

Granted, I recognize that embryos do not have feelings or a concept of self so being selfish is beyond their capabilities.

you chose to have sex though initially and you know the consequences of having sex which The possibility of a child which must develop first.

I chose to have sex. Despite my best efforts, I'm aware that one possible consequence of having sex is pregnancy. I'm also aware that one possible way of dealing with a pregnancy is having an abortion.

Problem solved. I don't have to have a child.

[Asuiop]

Hmm... I'm not sure where to go on the relevant to thread versions, so I'll take a diversion...

"Gravity didn't want to hurt you, you unknowingly picked a terrible parachute so when you jumped and it didn't deploy, the rapid deceleration upon hitting the ground forced your shinbones to splinter into a million pieces."

...a diversion to physics puns.

Poor gravity.

"HCl didn't want to hurt you, you unknowingly splashed some 3.00 M solution on your arm and the acid was forced to dissolve through your lab coat and onto your skin."

You should create a forum 7 thread for that

[Individuality-ness]

Apparently this concept for them is too alien, them being all male and what not.

Seems so.

It's a lot easier telling other people what to do when you yourself never have to experience it.

[Vazdania]

you chose to have sex though initially and you know the consequences of having sex which The possibility of a child which must develop first.

I chose to have sex. Despite my best efforts, I'm aware that one possible consequence of having sex is pregnancy. I'm also aware that one possible way of dealing with a pregnancy is having an abortion.

Problem solved. I don't have to have a child.

and that is why we must stop this from happening. It ends the development of a human. Its almost like death!

[Auralia]

...because you want to debate abortion?

And I've done so. Seriously, why would I repeat myself when I've said this all before already?

I'm done. You clearly have no intention of debating this topic or of addressing my arguments, so I'll stop wasting my time.

[Individuality-ness]

Poor gravity.

"HCl didn't want to hurt you, you unknowingly splashed some 3.00 M solution on your arm and the acid was forced to dissolve through your lab coat and onto your skin."

You should create a forum 7 thread for that

You realize we were mocking your argument, right? That's what you sound like.

[Mavorpen]

And I've done so. Seriously, why would I repeat myself when I've said this all before already?

I'm done. You clearly have no intention of debating this topic or of addressing my arguments, so I'll stop wasting my time.

Not sure what posts you're reading, but I've addressed your arguments.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Apparently this concept for them is too alien, them being all male and what not.

Seems so.

It's a lot easier telling other people what to do when you yourself never have to experience it.

Vazdania, are you listening? You poor misogynist?

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

And I've done so. Seriously, why would I repeat myself when I've said this all before already?

I'm done. You clearly have no intention of debating this topic or of addressing my arguments, so I'll stop wasting my time.

Then kindly fuck off instead of trumpeting shit(ty argument) everywhere. Freak.

[Vazdania]

Apparently this concept for them is too alien, them being all male and what not.

Seems so.

It's a lot easier telling other people what to do when you yourself never have to experience it.

Vazdania, are you listening? You poor misogynist?

I'm not a misogynist