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Is there a possibility of a second U.S. Civil War?

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Postby Benomia » Wed May 29, 2013 5:17 pm

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Benomia wrote:There would not be another civil war. For one thing, war doesn't work like it did a hundred fifty years ago. Militias don't exist any more, and the federal government controls the military. If Texas and friends said that they were just up and leaving, I'd give them three days before the entire USM is just kicking them in the face until they surrender.


Actually...Texas is filled with Pro-Gun people. If anything, I think Texas is the only remaining state with enough militias to last about a month against the USM.


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Postby Valendia » Wed May 29, 2013 5:18 pm

I hope so. That way we have an excuse to ditch the south.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed May 29, 2013 5:20 pm

Valendia wrote:I hope so. That way we have an excuse to ditch the south.

As long as you don't include Oklahoma in the south, I'm fine with it.

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Postby Diopolis » Wed May 29, 2013 5:22 pm

What's with all the threads about this recently? It's almost like this is NSG's new abortion.
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Postby Costa Fuar » Wed May 29, 2013 5:23 pm

Ok, so thx to all whom commented so far. This is just goin into a research paper I'm writing in one of my classes, and this was the base given to us. Most of it I don't agree with, but they wanted us to get numbers so y'all are helping me out that way.
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Postby Vetalia » Wed May 29, 2013 5:23 pm

Benomia wrote:There would not be another civil war. For one thing, war doesn't work like it did a hundred fifty years ago. Militias don't exist any more, and the federal government controls the military. If Texas and friends said that they were just up and leaving, I'd give them three days before the entire USM is just kicking them in the face until they surrender.


That is unless a large chunk of the US military decided to join the rebellion, which is entirely possible in these circumstances...and remember, the top generals of the Confederacy and many of its officers were either former or acting U.S. Army officials who decided to join the Confederacy. It wasn't a ragtag band of rebels who decided to secede, it was a highly organized force with some of the country's greatest military minds behind it.

Furthermore, many units of the CSA's army were the equivalent of today's National Guard in equipment and purpose.
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Postby Uncorrupted and Free » Wed May 29, 2013 5:24 pm

Benomia wrote:
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Actually...Texas is filled with Pro-Gun people. If anything, I think Texas is the only remaining state with enough militias to last about a month against the USM.


A rifle is going to do jack squat against an aerial strike team.


It's Texas, man. Those guys are the ones who do there shopping at military surplus stores and the black market. I wouldn't be surprised if they had the same guns and gear the USM has. I also didn't say they'd win. I said they'd last a little bit. Think about it. I live in Ohio.
Ohio tries something like that? We're done. What're we going to do? Throw corn at them until they surrender or drown them in our own blood?
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Postby Benomia » Wed May 29, 2013 5:25 pm

Uncorrupted and Free wrote:
Benomia wrote:
A rifle is going to do jack squat against an aerial strike team.


It's Texas, man. Those guys are the ones who do there shopping at military surplus stores and the black market. I wouldn't be surprised if they had the same guns and gear the USM has. I also didn't say they'd win. I said they'd last a little bit. Think about it. I live in Ohio.
Ohio tries something like that? We're done. What're we going to do? Throw corn at them until they surrender or drown them in our own blood?


You think that they're selling anti aircraft weaponry?

Broah I know guns, and I can tell you for a fact that they're not.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed May 29, 2013 5:25 pm

Costa Fuar wrote:Ok, so thx to all whom commented so far. This is just goin into a research paper I'm writing in one of my classes, and this was the base given to us. Most of it I don't agree with, but they wanted us to get numbers so y'all are helping me out that way.

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Postby Cocsoah » Wed May 29, 2013 5:27 pm

No. And if it did happen then it'd be over rather quickly.
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Postby Nidaria » Wed May 29, 2013 5:28 pm

It is possible, though there was no need to make another thread on the topic. If one does occur, it will not be about racism or slavery but rather different moral issues and ideologies.
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Postby Uncorrupted and Free » Wed May 29, 2013 5:28 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Benomia wrote:There would not be another civil war. For one thing, war doesn't work like it did a hundred fifty years ago. Militias don't exist any more, and the federal government controls the military. If Texas and friends said that they were just up and leaving, I'd give them three days before the entire USM is just kicking them in the face until they surrender.


That is unless a large chunk of the US military decided to join the rebellion, which is entirely possible in these circumstances...and remember, the top generals of the Confederacy and many of its officers were either former or acting U.S. Army officials who decided to join the Confederacy. It wasn't a ragtag band of rebels who decided to secede, it was a highly organized force with some of the country's greatest military minds behind it.

Furthermore, many units of the CSA's army were the equivalent of today's National Guard in equipment and purpose.


There's another thing. If a large portion of the USM is part of the succeeded state(s), I highly doubt they're going to take to killing their own neighbors and family - regardless of orders. Much of the USM is going to start shooting at the people they've been defending. Now, Obama's own little army and the fed's little private army they've gone going for them...They'll do whatever so long as the money keeps rolling their way.
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Postby Costa Fuar » Wed May 29, 2013 5:28 pm

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Costa Fuar wrote:Ok, so thx to all whom commented so far. This is just goin into a research paper I'm writing in one of my classes, and this was the base given to us. Most of it I don't agree with, but they wanted us to get numbers so y'all are helping me out that way.

Do your own homework. Don't deceive people and make them do it for you.

Taking a poll and gettin numbers is what we're supposed to do. And I'm not making anyone do it for me. I needed to get numbers for what people thought. I'm still the one writing the paper.
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Postby Kromar » Wed May 29, 2013 5:29 pm

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Costa Fuar wrote:Ok, so thx to all whom commented so far. This is just goin into a research paper I'm writing in one of my classes, and this was the base given to us. Most of it I don't agree with, but they wanted us to get numbers so y'all are helping me out that way.

Do your own homework. Don't deceive people and make them do it for you.

Honestly deceiving people into doing work for me is one of my favorite activities, so I can't complain.
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Postby Benomia » Wed May 29, 2013 5:29 pm

This thread is going to get locked soon.
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Postby Benomia » Wed May 29, 2013 5:30 pm

Costa Fuar wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Do your own homework. Don't deceive people and make them do it for you.

Taking a poll and gettin numbers is what we're supposed to do. And I'm not making anyone do it for me. I needed to get numbers for what people thought. I'm still the one writing the paper.


That doesn't make it any less a rule break.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed May 29, 2013 5:30 pm

It'll never happen. It's just an empty threat from extremist politicians and ITGs.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed May 29, 2013 5:30 pm

Costa Fuar wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Do your own homework. Don't deceive people and make them do it for you.

Taking a poll and gettin numbers is what we're supposed to do. And I'm not making anyone do it for me. I needed to get numbers for what people thought. I'm still the one writing the paper.

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