UKIP: Closet racists after all?

[Orcoa]

Wow Quintium....just wow, what a childish thing to say.

If you lived where I live, you'd say the same thing. Africans on one side, muslims on another - and I'm piggy in the middle.
The Randstad, a global hotspot of forced multiculturalism gone awry.

Then fucking move

I bet the people who live next to you would not miss your racist crap.

[Souseiseki]

However, since he's with UKIP, and the British left and right alike feel UKIP's hot breath down their necks, they've decided to make this into yet another national scandal.

do you think that things like "party candidates deny the holocaust" shouldn't be a scandal? please tell me more about what you think of this recent smear campaign against UKIP of "finding what their candidates are doing and saying publicly and telling people about it".

[Frisivisia]

Duh, don't you guys even read Stormfront? Anti-racist = anti-white.

[Souseiseki]

Wow Quintium....just wow, what a childish thing to say.

If you lived where I live, you'd say the same thing. Africans on one side, muslims on another - and I'm piggy in the middle.
The Randstad, a global hotspot of forced multiculturalism gone awry.

oh no

not africans! :-(

[Angleter]

Well, it refers twice to a "multi-cultural community," and to "all [presumably ethnic/cultural] communities," and rejoices at "cultural diversity," so it's a pretty openly multiculturalist tract.

[Esparmuran]

Duh, don't you guys even read Stormfront? Anti-racist = anti-white.

Aye, Joe. Always go there for a good laugh.

[Quintium]

Hahahaha so you vote for a man like Wilder who is agasint a group of people just because of their religious belief?

Yes, since the group of people that adheres to that particular religious belief has spent the last fourteen hundred years attempting to exterminate my people.

[Torentine]

Enough of the labeling of right-wingers as racists, from a predominantly left-wing community. It is old and tiresome. Why not some actual political debate on UKIP's immigration policies or something.

[Orcoa]

Enough of the labeling of right-wingers as racists, from a predominantly left-wing community. It is old and tiresome. Why not some actual political debate on UKIP's immigration policies or something.

[Quintium]

Enough of the labeling of right-wingers as racists, from a predominantly left-wing community. It is old and tiresome. Why not some actual political debate on UKIP's immigration policies or something.

Because those policies are too sensible. They're about not adding more people to an economy with fewer and fewer jobs. They're about fixing problems instead of increasing the scale of those problems. And that does not sit well with the left.

[Souseiseki]

Enough of the labeling of right-wingers as racists, from a predominantly left-wing community. It is old and tiresome. Why not some actual political debate on UKIP's immigration policies or something.

why shouldn't we talk about the implications of this thing these UKIP councillors did (unanimously refused to sign anti-racism pledge)

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Well, that's the case in everyone's favourite British reactionary county, Lincolnshire.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/18/ukip-councillors-anti-racism-pledge-lincoln-_n_3297890.html

All 16 Ukip members of Lincoln council have refused to sign an anti-racism pledge set up to ensure all county residents are treated equally and have the same rights to services.

While they don't have any real power in Lincolnshire, as the Conservatives still hold a far greater number of seats, it's a worrying sign. A quick read of the document shows that there isn't much of the 'OMG ebil multiculturizmzzz!' that Chris Pain had a problem with, and it doesn't seem to be a binding document to do anything. Most of the document is based around opposition to racism and the like, which I had presumed everyone on the Council would approve of.

Pain told the Huffington Post UK: "I have friends of all creeds and colours, there is no way you can describe this [abstention] as a racist act.

And the traditional, 'I have black friends too!' card to tie it all up.

So, NSG: is this a simple complaint about the wording of a document, or is it something more questionable? Is this a Lincolnshire-only thing, or will we see more of this in the coming weeks and months?

As a look over the NS General Assembly forum will tell you, refusing to sign up to a piece of legislature does not automatically make you wholly against everything that legislature stands for.

UKIP are of course utter bastards, but still. The point stands in most cases.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

I'm tired of racists trying to join conservative groups. I hate racists. I also hate this game for making conservatives out to be racists.

Oh the irony of that statement and your flag.

[Frisivisia]

Hahahaha so you vote for a man like Wilder who is agasint a group of people just because of their religious belief?

Yes, since the group of people that adheres to that particular religious belief has spent the last fourteen hundred years attempting to exterminate my people.

I love the whole "THEYV BEN STERMINATIN MAH PEPOLE" line. The idea that there's some long-standing Crusade, some war that's been going on that makes bigotry and violence absolutely okay. You see it from racists all the time.

[Quintium]

I love the whole "THEYV BEN STERMINATIN MAH PEPOLE" line. The idea that there's some long-standing Crusade, some war that's been going on that makes bigotry and violence absolutely okay. You see it from racists all the time.

I'm not against muslims; however, they should keep to their land as I keep to mine.
And their land is on the other side of the Bosphorus and the Meditteranean and the Caucasus Mountains.

[Battenburgia]

They're RAP-Racist and Proud.

don't you mean CRAP - Closet racists and Pretendingnottobe

[Disserbia]

If you lived where I live, you'd say the same thing. Africans on one side, muslims on another - and I'm piggy in the middle.
The Randstad, a global hotspot of forced multiculturalism gone awry.

Then fucking move

I bet the people who live next to you would not miss your racist crap.

I hate racist crap, but this is just not a valid response in any way.

[Vistulange]

Hahahaha so you vote for a man like Wilder who is agasint a group of people just because of their religious belief?

Yes, since the group of people that adheres to that particular religious belief has spent the last fourteen hundred years attempting to exterminate my people.

And you spent approximately five centuries trying to exterminate the people of my belief. So, neither of us are at the moral high ground here.

I love the whole "THEYV BEN STERMINATIN MAH PEPOLE" line. The idea that there's some long-standing Crusade, some war that's been going on that makes bigotry and violence absolutely okay. You see it from racists all the time.

I'm not against muslims; however, they should keep to their land as I keep to mine.
And their land is on the other side of the Bosphorus and the Meditteranean and the Caucasus Mountains.

I'm terribly sorry, but Edirne and Istanbul are ours.

[Quintium]

I hate racist crap, but this is just not a valid response in any way.

Don't worry, I've seen much worse. I've been shouted at, attacked, censored and kicked out from places for what I believed.
That's why I believe those who call themselves progressivists are actually the most authoritarian people I've met in my life.

[Disserbia]

Yes, since the group of people that adheres to that particular religious belief has spent the last fourteen hundred years attempting to exterminate my people.

And you spent approximately five centuries trying to exterminate the people of my belief. So, neither of us are at the moral high ground here.

I'm not against muslims; however, they should keep to their land as I keep to mine.
And their land is on the other side of the Bosphorus and the Meditteranean and the Caucasus Mountains.

I'm terribly sorry, but Edirne and Istanbul are ours.

It's. not. called. that.

[Frisivisia]

I love the whole "THEYV BEN STERMINATIN MAH PEPOLE" line. The idea that there's some long-standing Crusade, some war that's been going on that makes bigotry and violence absolutely okay. You see it from racists all the time.

I'm not against muslims; however, they should keep to their land as I keep to mine.
And their land is on the other side of the Bosphorus and the Meditteranean and the Caucasus Mountains.

Who's to say whose land is whose? Immigration is an ongoing process. Muslims are not different entities than Christians.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I love the whole "THEYV BEN STERMINATIN MAH PEPOLE" line. The idea that there's some long-standing Crusade, some war that's been going on that makes bigotry and violence absolutely okay. You see it from racists all the time.

I'm not against muslims; however, they should keep to their land as I keep to mine.
And their land is on the other side of the Bosphorus and the Meditteranean and the Caucasus Mountains.

That's kind of being against Muslims, since you're saying they should not be granted the freedom to go wherever the fuck they want in the world.
Though at least you're consistent, in saying you have no interest in whites going there.

[Quintium]

I'm terribly sorry, but Edirne and Istanbul are ours.

I'd take Constantinople today if I could.
Knock those filthy minarets off the Hagia Sophia.

[Disserbia]

I hate racist crap, but this is just not a valid response in any way.

Don't worry, I've seen much worse. I've been shouted at, attacked, censored and kicked out from places for what I believed.
That's why I believe those who call themselves progressivists are actually the most authoritarian people I've met in my life.

Generally anyone who thinks they have the right to force their beliefs on others are a waste of time.

[Quintium]

That's kind of being against Muslims, since you're saying they should not be granted the freedom to go wherever the fuck they want in the world.
Though at least you're consistent, in saying you have no interest in whites going there.

Precisely. Let nations have states and let all states be based on nations; anything else will always and inevitably result in violence.
Unfortunately, the left won't listen.