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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 10:37 am

Seriously, we've had like ten of this thread this past month...

I'm an independent but I see the Democrats as the lesser of two evils. Since I live in a non-swing state, I plan on sometimes voting Libertarian to make a point in those rare times that they actually run an actual libertarian, not some psychotic Dominionist.
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Postby Disserbia » Thu May 30, 2013 11:28 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:Seriously, we've had like ten of this thread this past month...

I'm an independent but I see the Democrats as the lesser of two evils. Since I live in a non-swing state, I plan on sometimes voting Libertarian to make a point in those rare times that they actually run an actual libertarian, not some psychotic Dominionist.

Gary Johnson was alright.
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Postby Letzenland » Thu May 30, 2013 12:14 pm

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Non-Germans would be expelled, and I do not believe most Germans would leave. Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands would be elected democratically, therefore it is impossible that the majority would leave.

I would leave :meh:
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Postby Altmora » Thu May 30, 2013 12:48 pm

No, not at the moment. I am considereing joining the Christian Democrats (Sweden) who are more centre than most but unfourtantly not enough. The Centre has gone libertarian so thats a no no

I am a member of the Democratic party though (USA) :P

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Postby ThemSandFolk » Thu May 30, 2013 3:51 pm

Atmast wrote:
ThemSandFolk wrote:Democrat. Conservative Southern Democrat.


Some Dems call me a DINO, I call them the problem with this country (USA).


I knew that there were a lot of these people before Reagan, but I didn't think that there would still be any. If you don't mind me asking, what makes you consider yourself both a Democrat and a Conservative?


I'm Socially Conservative,but I still want Universal Healthcare, Social Security, Strong Federal Government, Government checks and balances on the economy ect.



There are still Conservative Dems, but the number is quite low now. We will rise again. :lol2:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
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Postby Potenco » Thu May 30, 2013 6:34 pm

I will most likely register as a Democrat come the next election

I do wish this was multi party Democracy so I could join a third party and not look stupid. If I was an Argentine I would totally join the Justicialist Party.
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Postby Diopolis » Thu May 30, 2013 6:36 pm

The Grand Union wrote:No. I'm not. I'm an anti-democratist.

Same here.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu May 30, 2013 6:37 pm

I'm a registered Democrat, in America.

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Postby Diopolis » Thu May 30, 2013 6:38 pm

ThemSandFolk wrote:
Atmast wrote:
I knew that there were a lot of these people before Reagan, but I didn't think that there would still be any. If you don't mind me asking, what makes you consider yourself both a Democrat and a Conservative?


I'm Socially Conservative,but I still want Universal Healthcare, Social Security, Strong Federal Government, Government checks and balances on the economy ect.



There are still Conservative Dems, but the number is quite low now. We will rise again. :lol2:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

My views are similar, though because I value social over fiscal issues, I tend to support republicans.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 6:42 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Seriously, we've had like ten of this thread this past month...

I'm an independent but I see the Democrats as the lesser of two evils. Since I live in a non-swing state, I plan on sometimes voting Libertarian to make a point in those rare times that they actually run an actual libertarian, not some psychotic Dominionist.

Gary Johnson was alright.

He's one of the good ones, I would have voted for him if I was old enough.
Unfortunately, LP candidates like him are the exception and not the rule.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Disserbia » Thu May 30, 2013 7:06 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Gary Johnson was alright.

He's one of the good ones, I would have voted for him if I was old enough.
Unfortunately, LP candidates like him are the exception and not the rule.

Yeah, I'm starting to look at the justice party more because of this. I don't like that libertarians are represented by lunatic fringe politicians, its really detrimental to the image when there are a lot fo very valid points.
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PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
PS:
Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
PT:
democratic National Liberal
In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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Postby Shofercia » Thu May 30, 2013 8:14 pm

Independent. Gotta love Cali's independent voting system. We can vote in any primary we choose, for any candidate we choose, and for any proposal we choose. Being partisan actually limits my voting abilities here to the state elections, and the federal elections supported by party X. But being nonpartisan, there are no limits.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 8:16 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:He's one of the good ones, I would have voted for him if I was old enough.
Unfortunately, LP candidates like him are the exception and not the rule.

Yeah, I'm starting to look at the justice party more because of this. I don't like that libertarians are represented by lunatic fringe politicians, its really detrimental to the image when there are a lot fo very valid points.

Isn't the justice party left wing economically?
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Disserbia » Thu May 30, 2013 8:20 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Yeah, I'm starting to look at the justice party more because of this. I don't like that libertarians are represented by lunatic fringe politicians, its really detrimental to the image when there are a lot fo very valid points.

Isn't the justice party left wing economically?

Actually I don't think they are, I think they're around where I'm at or maybe slightly to the left of me. I could be wrong though.
http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

I guess they are a little further left than I thought, still, not bad though.
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You can't spell scat fetish without catfish.
Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
Funniest shit on this shite
fakbuk and other random shit
PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
PS:
Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
PT:
democratic National Liberal
In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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Postby Vareiln » Thu May 30, 2013 8:21 pm

No, and I don't plan to join any for some time.

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Postby Disserbia » Thu May 30, 2013 8:23 pm

Shofercia wrote:Independent. Gotta love Cali's independent voting system. We can vote in any primary we choose, for any candidate we choose, and for any proposal we choose. Being partisan actually limits my voting abilities here to the state elections, and the federal elections supported by party X. But being nonpartisan, there are no limits.

Wait really? I didn't know I could vote in the democratic primary if I declined to state a party, I just might do that then.
You can't spell scat fetish without catfish.
Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
Funniest shit on this shite
fakbuk and other random shit
PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
PS:
Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
PT:
democratic National Liberal
In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 8:23 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Isn't the justice party left wing economically?

Actually I don't think they are, I think they're around where I'm at or maybe slightly to the left of me. I could be wrong though.
http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

I guess they are a little further left than I thought, still, not bad though.

That chart's not accurate at all. Johnson isn't that far right, and he's more libertarian.
Obama is WAY more liberal than that thing claims. That chart has Obama at about the same spot as our resident fascist Prussia-Steinbach.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 8:24 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Independent. Gotta love Cali's independent voting system. We can vote in any primary we choose, for any candidate we choose, and for any proposal we choose. Being partisan actually limits my voting abilities here to the state elections, and the federal elections supported by party X. But being nonpartisan, there are no limits.

Wait really? I didn't know I could vote in the democratic primary if I declined to state a party, I just might do that then.

I hate our new so-called "open primary" system. More like "suppress third parties, and contribute further to single-party dominance in strongly partisan areas" system.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Disserbia » Thu May 30, 2013 8:33 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Actually I don't think they are, I think they're around where I'm at or maybe slightly to the left of me. I could be wrong though.
http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

I guess they are a little further left than I thought, still, not bad though.

That chart's not accurate at all. Johnson isn't that far right, and he's more libertarian.
Obama is WAY more liberal than that thing claims. That chart has Obama at about the same spot as our resident fascist Prussia-Steinbach.

The problem with those charts is they just measure those basic concepts and don't distinguish specific policy enough. Obama is extremely authoritarian, and he might be a little more left economically but hes still in that corner. I was looking over the Justice party platform and I'd put them closer to the center. They seem to be a compromise between libertarian and green, but unless the LP are always going to run someone like Johnson I can't see myself voting for them. They've got to decide which way they will go.
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Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
Funniest shit on this shite
fakbuk and other random shit
PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
PS:
Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
PT:
democratic National Liberal
In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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Disserbia
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Postby Disserbia » Thu May 30, 2013 8:35 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Wait really? I didn't know I could vote in the democratic primary if I declined to state a party, I just might do that then.

I hate our new so-called "open primary" system. More like "suppress third parties, and contribute further to single-party dominance in strongly partisan areas" system.

Yeah, isn't that the case with this top two candidates thing as well? NorCal is so blue it doesn't matter anyway. I think the only way to fix the situation now is to break apart the parties from the inside, its already happening with the Republicans, and there have always been blue dog democrats.
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Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
Funniest shit on this shite
fakbuk and other random shit
PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
PS:
Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
PT:
democratic National Liberal
In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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Postby Johto and Kanto » Thu May 30, 2013 8:38 pm

No.
I STILL need a new signature.

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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 30, 2013 8:40 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I hate our new so-called "open primary" system. More like "suppress third parties, and contribute further to single-party dominance in strongly partisan areas" system.

Yeah, isn't that the case with this top two candidates thing as well? NorCal is so blue it doesn't matter anyway. I think the only way to fix the situation now is to break apart the parties from the inside, its already happening with the Republicans, and there have always been blue dog democrats.

Thats what I meant. "top two" and "open primary" are part of the same new system.

And not all of Norcal is so blue, my district is only about 55% Dem. (It would actually be a really good place for a libertarian candidate. Most people here are economically center right and liberal on everthing else.)
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Postby The Sector Union » Thu May 30, 2013 8:40 pm

Don't want to. I oppose them. However, I would vote for a Libertarian Candidate in a US presidential election because too many democrats and republicans have taken the oath to office far too long.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu May 30, 2013 8:43 pm

Soon to be Labour in the UK, though I don't agree with absolutely everything from them.

In Canada I refuse to register at the current moment as I'm torn between the Liberals and the NDP.

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Postby Disserbia » Thu May 30, 2013 8:46 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Yeah, isn't that the case with this top two candidates thing as well? NorCal is so blue it doesn't matter anyway. I think the only way to fix the situation now is to break apart the parties from the inside, its already happening with the Republicans, and there have always been blue dog democrats.

Thats what I meant. "top two" and "open primary" are part of the same new system.

And not all of Norcal is so blue, my district is only about 55% Dem. (It would actually be a really good place for a libertarian candidate. Most people here are economically center right and liberal on everthing else.)

That's true, but I don't know if what qualifies as libertarian here would be in step with the part in the rest of the US.
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Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
Funniest shit on this shite
fakbuk and other random shit
PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
PS:
Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
PT:
democratic National Liberal
In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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