by North Posidia » Sun May 26, 2013 6:04 pm
by Regnum Dominae » Sun May 26, 2013 6:05 pm
by The Orson Empire » Sun May 26, 2013 6:07 pm
by Insane Kidney Mentality » Sun May 26, 2013 6:13 pm
by The Orson Empire » Sun May 26, 2013 6:14 pm
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:Spanking is really quite twentieth century. I personally chain my children to a post in the cellar, lock the door, and come by every Tuesday to offer some stale bread and water - that'll teach them.
But no, I am very much against spanking and corporal punishment in general.
by Insane Kidney Mentality » Sun May 26, 2013 6:16 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:Spanking is really quite twentieth century. I personally chain my children to a post in the cellar, lock the door, and come by every Tuesday to offer some stale bread and water - that'll teach them.
But no, I am very much against spanking and corporal punishment in general.
Well, it's probably not going to become illegal anytime soon. Even if it is made illegal, parents will still do it.
by Des-Bal » Sun May 26, 2013 6:19 pm
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:It's not going to become illegal, and parents will do it regardless sure, but I expect the amount of physically and psychologically scarred children from such corporal punishment to be there all in the same.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
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by The Orson Empire » Sun May 26, 2013 6:25 pm
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:Well, it's probably not going to become illegal anytime soon. Even if it is made illegal, parents will still do it.
It's not going to become illegal, and parents will do it regardless sure, but I expect the amount of physically and psychologically scarred children from such corporal punishment to be there all in the same.
by Insane Kidney Mentality » Sun May 26, 2013 6:29 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
It's not going to become illegal, and parents will do it regardless sure, but I expect the amount of physically and psychologically scarred children from such corporal punishment to be there all in the same.
Well I was spanked and beat many times as a child for doing something wrong, yet I suffered no physical or psychological damage, because that's not what it's meant for. It's meant to instruct discipline, so the child won't grow up like a heathen.
by The Mighty Warrior Horse » Sun May 26, 2013 6:29 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
It's not going to become illegal, and parents will do it regardless sure, but I expect the amount of physically and psychologically scarred children from such corporal punishment to be there all in the same.
Well I was spanked and beat many times as a child for doing something wrong, yet I suffered no physical or psychological damage, because that's not what it's meant for. It's meant to instruct discipline, so the child won't grow up like a heathen.
by Des-Bal » Sun May 26, 2013 6:32 pm
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
I was beat once as a child, for attempting a round-house kick upon my father. My cousin, in comparison, was beaten quite often for behavior issues, of which are more aggressive and outspoken this day.
Children aren't a single entity, there are variables, and a single input shall not general a single output. They will react differently, and their reactions may differ from the preferred intention.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Mike the Progressive » Sun May 26, 2013 6:33 pm
by Des-Bal » Sun May 26, 2013 6:36 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:It just depends. Spanking in itself is not wrong. It becomes wrong when it's used by parents to project their anger/frustration of something else on their child or children.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Insane Kidney Mentality » Sun May 26, 2013 6:36 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
I was beat once as a child, for attempting a round-house kick upon my father. My cousin, in comparison, was beaten quite often for behavior issues, of which are more aggressive and outspoken this day.
Children aren't a single entity, there are variables, and a single input shall not general a single output. They will react differently, and their reactions may differ from the preferred intention.
So you're using the fact that children aren't a single entity and the fact that many variables exist to justify taking an entire school of discipline off the table across the board?
by Vazdania » Sun May 26, 2013 6:40 pm
Regnum Dominae wrote:I do not believe that parents have the right to do physical harm to their children.
by Des-Bal » Sun May 26, 2013 6:42 pm
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
I'm saying that using corporal punishment as a means of discipline may work for some, but not as well for others.
I'm not particularly advocated its removal or promotion, here.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Mike the Progressive » Sun May 26, 2013 6:42 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:It just depends. Spanking in itself is not wrong. It becomes wrong when it's used by parents to project their anger/frustration of something else on their child or children.
Well obviously, I don't think anyone's promoting the idea that children are stress balls and slapping them around is a great way to spend an evening.
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by Des-Bal » Sun May 26, 2013 6:43 pm
Vazdania wrote:This violates bodily sovereignty, as they didn't consent to anything.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Vazdania » Sun May 26, 2013 6:44 pm
by Des-Bal » Sun May 26, 2013 6:45 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:
What I mean is that people who thinks spanking is bad are wrong. It can be beneficial and it doesn't necessarily harm the child. But it can easily become a form of abuse, a way for the parent(s) to relieve stress, even if that's not their intent.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Des-Bal » Sun May 26, 2013 6:46 pm
Vazdania wrote:They broke no law though!
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Insane Kidney Mentality » Sun May 26, 2013 6:47 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
I'm saying that using corporal punishment as a means of discipline may work for some, but not as well for others.
I'm not particularly advocated its removal or promotion, here.
"I am very much against spanking and corporal punishment in general."
This followed a snarky comparison to archaic methods of dealing with prisoners.
What you did not say at any time before this exact moment is "[corporal punishment] may work for some."
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