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Postby New haven america » Mon May 27, 2013 12:55 am

Technically "F_g" and "Fa__ot" should be racial slurs, because of the use during slave times.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon May 27, 2013 12:56 am

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Hathradic States wrote:Fucking man up and deal with it. You want to be a Marine, you better grow some fucking thick skin.

You are part of the reason why people think using the word faggot is ok. You're also part of the reason some people think it's ok to abduct, torture and murder homosexuals.

You are part of the reason why people think it's okay to spell "okay" like "ok".

And, really, why? Because I believe Marines should have balls and not get pissy over namecalling? Especially in bootcamp, when they are trying to take a boy and turn him into a soldier.

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon May 27, 2013 12:57 am

New haven america wrote:Technically "F_g" and "Fa__ot" should be racial slurs, because of the use during slave times.


Horseshite. It became slang for homosexuals in 1914, before then it was a collection of branches or twigs in a group or some horrible, horrible meatballs.
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Postby Vilkavis » Mon May 27, 2013 12:59 am

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The UK in Exile wrote:No one said that drill instructors can't call someone a fat lazy useless sack of shit. All it takes is a little bit of imagination to find an alternative. granted imagination isn't a trait you immediately associate with USMC drill sargeants, but I'll wager they can be suprisingly creative when it comes to insulting people.

Obviously all drill instructors should be required to read Shakespeare.

"A weasel hath not such a deal of spleen as you are toss'd with, Private Smith!"

"Thy virginity breeds mites, like a cheese, Private Jones!"

"Thou art the son and heir of a mongrel bitch, Private Axelson!"


I'm all for this. Hell, I was even offended by the last one.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon May 27, 2013 12:59 am

New haven america wrote:Technically "F_g" and "Fa__ot" should be racial slurs, because of the use during slave times.

Yeah, bullshit.

It came about as a term for homosexuals in the 20th Century. Before that, a "faggot" was a bundle of sticks.

Also, man up and say the fucking word. You have no fucking idea how much typing "fa***t" or "ni***r" annoys me. Are you scared of the word or something?

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Postby New haven america » Mon May 27, 2013 1:00 am

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New haven america wrote:Technically "F_g" and "Fa__ot" should be racial slurs, because of the use during slave times.


Horseshite. It became slang for homosexuals in 1914, before then it was a collection of branches or twigs in a group or some horrible, horrible meatballs.

It's the burning stand and knot that you would tie a black person to, to burn them.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 27, 2013 1:01 am

Hathradic States wrote:
New haven america wrote:Technically "F_g" and "Fa__ot" should be racial slurs, because of the use during slave times.

Yeah, bullshit.

It came about as a term for homosexuals in the 20th Century. Before that, a "faggot" was a bundle of sticks.

Also, man up and say the fucking word. You have no fucking idea how much typing "fa***t" or "ni***r" annoys me. Are you scared of the word or something?

No, but considering the LGBT part, I don't feel like saying or typing it.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon May 27, 2013 1:01 am

New haven america wrote:
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Horseshite. It became slang for homosexuals in 1914, before then it was a collection of branches or twigs in a group or some horrible, horrible meatballs.

It's the burning stand and knot that you would tie a black person to, to burn them.


Or any other bundle of sticks. Harmless word really. Unless you choose to take offence to it.
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Postby St George » Mon May 27, 2013 1:02 am

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St George wrote:You are part of the reason why people think using the word faggot is ok. You're also part of the reason some people think it's ok to abduct, torture and murder homosexuals.


Lol. That's quite a jump you got there, from using an insult on a recruit in boot camp to murder?
If you think that indoctrinating people to think 'fags' are disgusting or bad and wrong isn't going to at least partially lead to either violence or the creation of a culture of violence where homosexuals are abducted, tortured and killed. It's happened before.
Hathradic States wrote:And, really, why? Because I believe Marines should have balls and not get pissy over namecalling? Especially in bootcamp, when they are trying to take a boy and turn him into a soldier.

Because you think it's okay to use the word 'faggot' as an insult in any circumstance.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon May 27, 2013 1:02 am

New haven america wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Yeah, bullshit.

It came about as a term for homosexuals in the 20th Century. Before that, a "faggot" was a bundle of sticks.

Also, man up and say the fucking word. You have no fucking idea how much typing "fa***t" or "ni***r" annoys me. Are you scared of the word or something?

No, but considering the LGBT part, I don't feel like saying or typing it.


What the hell do Bisexual people have to do with anything?
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon May 27, 2013 1:03 am

New haven america wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Yeah, bullshit.

It came about as a term for homosexuals in the 20th Century. Before that, a "faggot" was a bundle of sticks.

Also, man up and say the fucking word. You have no fucking idea how much typing "fa***t" or "ni***r" annoys me. Are you scared of the word or something?

No, but considering the LGBT part, I don't feel like saying or typing it.

Why did you underline the "B"?

And why should that keep you from typing or saying a word in an academic discussion? Point being, it shouldn't. You won't but it because you are afraid of the word.

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Postby Hathradic States » Mon May 27, 2013 1:04 am

St George wrote:
Democratic Koyro wrote:
Lol. That's quite a jump you got there, from using an insult on a recruit in boot camp to murder?
If you think that indoctrinating people to think 'fags' are disgusting or bad and wrong isn't going to at least partially lead to either violence or the creation of a culture of violence where homosexuals are abducted, tortured and killed. It's happened before.

Fags are horrible, though! They cause lung cancer!


Hathradic States wrote:And, really, why? Because I believe Marines should have balls and not get pissy over namecalling? Especially in bootcamp, when they are trying to take a boy and turn him into a soldier.

Because you think it's okay to use the word 'faggot' as an insult in any circumstance.

No, I think it is acceptable for the Marine Corps to use on recruits, there is a difference.

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Postby New haven america » Mon May 27, 2013 1:05 am

Hathradic States wrote:
New haven america wrote:No, but considering the LGBT part, I don't feel like saying or typing it.

Why did you underline the "B"?

And why should that keep you from typing or saying a word in an academic discussion? Point being, it shouldn't. You won't but it because you are afraid of the word.

Why do you think I underlined it? (Hint: It's in my sig)
I'm not scared, just don't feel like it.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon May 27, 2013 1:05 am

St George wrote:
Democratic Koyro wrote:
Lol. That's quite a jump you got there, from using an insult on a recruit in boot camp to murder?
If you think that indoctrinating people to think 'fags' are disgusting or bad and wrong isn't going to at least partially lead to either violence or the creation of a culture of violence where homosexuals are abducted, tortured and killed. It's happened before.
Hathradic States wrote:And, really, why? Because I believe Marines should have balls and not get pissy over namecalling? Especially in bootcamp, when they are trying to take a boy and turn him into a soldier.

Because you think it's okay to use the word 'faggot' as an insult in any circumstance.


It's okay to use whatever insult you deem necessary in bootcamp on someone of utter incompetence and/or stupidity. I don't see what is so bad about "Fag" or "Faggot". Especially considering 99% of the time when Drill Instructors call someone a "Useless Faggot" or something along those lines they don't know, or even care what their seuxality is.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon May 27, 2013 1:06 am

New haven america wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Why did you underline the "B"?

And why should that keep you from typing or saying a word in an academic discussion? Point being, it shouldn't. You won't but it because you are afraid of the word.

Why do you think I underlined it?
I'm not scared, just don't feel like it.

Because the buttons on the computer confused you, and you accidentally underlined it and were too lazy to change it afterwards? (We all do it at least once...)

Why don't you feel like it, though? Does saying the word "faggot" honestly require that much energy? it doesn't hurt anybody when it it just being discussed.

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Postby New haven america » Mon May 27, 2013 1:08 am

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New haven america wrote:Why do you think I underlined it?
I'm not scared, just don't feel like it.

Because the buttons on the computer confused you, and you accidentally underlined it and were too lazy to change it afterwards? (We all do it at least once...)

Why don't you feel like it, though? Does saying the word "faggot" honestly require that much energy? it doesn't hurt anybody when it it just being discussed.

I said the reason is in my Sig.

IDK, just don't, just like IDK why I hate the 3DS.
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Postby Helicthon » Mon May 27, 2013 1:09 am

ITT: Rationalization.

(It's like mansplaining, but it's internal: it's what happens when you realize on some level that your actions (condoning the use of the word "faggot" in any context) do not match the set of beliefs you hold ("I am a good person", "good people don't discriminate") so you make shit up that will allow you to hold both beliefs without contradiction.)

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Postby Hathradic States » Mon May 27, 2013 1:09 am

New haven america wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Because the buttons on the computer confused you, and you accidentally underlined it and were too lazy to change it afterwards? (We all do it at least once...)

Why don't you feel like it, though? Does saying the word "faggot" honestly require that much energy? it doesn't hurt anybody when it it just being discussed.

I said the reason is in my Sig.

IDK, just don't, just like IDK why I hate the 3DS.

Well, that wasn't written when I quoted it.

If you don't know then how can you say it isn't fear?

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon May 27, 2013 1:09 am

Hathradic States wrote:
New haven america wrote:Why do you think I underlined it?
I'm not scared, just don't feel like it.

Because the buttons on the computer confused you, and you accidentally underlined it and were too lazy to change it afterwards? (We all do it at least once...)

Why don't you feel like it, though? Does saying the word "faggot" honestly require that much energy? it doesn't hurt anybody when it it just being discussed.


He's bisexual. He's choosing to take offence to the word and won't type it.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 27, 2013 1:10 am

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Because the buttons on the computer confused you, and you accidentally underlined it and were too lazy to change it afterwards? (We all do it at least once...)

Why don't you feel like it, though? Does saying the word "faggot" honestly require that much energy? it doesn't hurt anybody when it it just being discussed.


He's bisexual. He's choosing to take offence to the word and won't type it.

No, I just don't feel like, also wanted to see what would happen if I typed it that way. :P
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Postby St George » Mon May 27, 2013 1:11 am

Hathradic States wrote:
St George wrote:If you think that indoctrinating people to think 'fags' are disgusting or bad and wrong isn't going to at least partially lead to either violence or the creation of a culture of violence where homosexuals are abducted, tortured and killed. It's happened before.

Fags are horrible, though! They cause lung cancer!
Jesus fucking Christ you know exactly what meaning of the word fag was being used there.
No, I think it is acceptable for the Marine Corps to use on recruits, there is a difference.

And therein lies the problem. That word is not an acceptable insult to use against anyone. By thinking it is acceptable to be used you are part of the problem that millions of people face everyday.
Democratic Koyro wrote:It's ok to use whatever insult you deem necessary in bootcamp on someone of utter incompetence and/or stupidity.
No it really isn't.
I don't see what is so bad about "Fag" or "Faggot".
Wow.

Edit: Because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's ok to use.
Especially considering 99% of the time when Drill Instructors call someone a "Useless Faggot" or something along those lines they don't know, or even care what their seuxality is.
Which is even worse than if they did, because what they're doing is re-affirming the incorrect and disgusting idea that being a 'fag' is wrong.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon May 27, 2013 1:12 am

St George wrote:f you think that indoctrinating people to think 'fags' are disgusting or bad and wrong isn't going to at least partially lead to either violence or the creation of a culture of violence where homosexuals are abducted, tortured and killed. It's happened before.
If such words were truly that powerful than every single homosexual on the planet would be dead now.
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Postby St George » Mon May 27, 2013 1:13 am

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St George wrote:f you think that indoctrinating people to think 'fags' are disgusting or bad and wrong isn't going to at least partially lead to either violence or the creation of a culture of violence where homosexuals are abducted, tortured and killed. It's happened before.
If such words were truly that powerful than every single homosexual on the planet would be dead now.

No, not really, because the vast majority of people on the planet aren't murderers.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon May 27, 2013 1:14 am

This thread has killed my faith in humanity. Well, maybe not, my faith that this generation won't grow up to be snizzling, pampered little cowards scared of WORDS has been utterly shattered though.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 27, 2013 1:16 am

Democratic Koyro wrote:This thread has killed my faith in humanity. Well, maybe not, my faith that this generation won't grow up to be snizzling, pampered little cowards scared of WORDS has been utterly shattered though.

Yay, some lost faith in humanity just like me. :D
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