NATION

PASSWORD

Why dislike homosexuals?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Lengleland
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 166
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lengleland » Fri May 24, 2013 10:25 am

Zilam wrote:I don't dislike homosexuals. I know they are normal people, like you and I. I know they have their ups and downs, just like me. I know they love their partners in the same way I love my girlfriend.

The thing I really dislike is that everywhere I go, gay people are pushing their relationships in public. You know what? You want to love your partner, go for it. Kiss them, hug them, cuddle them, marry them. I don't care. But it is annoying when people are overly public with their relationship, whether they are gay or straight. Cut that crap out. Its annoying.


In the sense of people "grinding" or performing sexual acts in the public for everyone (children included) to see; I'm with you mate! But in the sense of kissing, hugging, cuddling etc. harmlessly; there is nothing wrong with that. You are being a little too hostile; I think.
Likes: Christianity, Democracy, Old Music, Information Technology, Liberty.

Dislikes: Anarchy, Fascism, Communism, Rap, Mathematics, Katie Price, Same-Sex Marriage.

I call upon all British Citizens aged 16 and Over to visit: keepmarriagespecial.org.uk and sign the petition. Same-Sex Marriage is sin and to make this legal would be discarding gods law for marriage and changing the law of the land.

User avatar
Sidhae
Minister
 
Posts: 2748
Founded: Sep 27, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Sidhae » Fri May 24, 2013 10:26 am

It's usually not homosexuals in general, but homosexuals who flaunt their lifestyle that people dislike, especially when that lifestyle is used for political propaganda, considering how heavily politicized the issue is (the only other comparable thing being race).
Proud National Socialist. Blaming everything on the liberals since 2000.

The world is full of criminal enterprises and terrorist organizations. The most successful ones are known as states.

Life is like surfing the Internet - there's no meaning or purpose, yet you don't really want to quit either.

The fact that slaves are allowed to elect their masters does not abolish the division in masters and slaves.

Don't try to deride me by calling me an "-ist" or "-phobe" unless you are referring to a medical condition or are trying to compliment me.

Socially-liberal capitalist democracy DOES NOT equate to free society.

Contrary to popular belief, National Socialists aren't racists. They simply hate their own race less than others.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 10:26 am

Great Sofannia wrote:Fear (of being raped).

Gays are necessarily rapists, and it is abominable that I had to explain that.
Last edited by Ifreann on Fri May 24, 2013 10:26 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Esparmuran
Senator
 
Posts: 3963
Founded: Mar 05, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Esparmuran » Fri May 24, 2013 10:27 am

cuz their against god!!!1!!!one!!!!
A 24 civilization, according to this index.
Population of 1201.
Land Area: 184,334 km²
HDI: 0.760
Demographics

WCoH 27 Finalists!
Esparmuran is sparsely-populated, freezing wasteland north of the Commonwealth of Crowns. If you like hockey, dog-sledding and clubbing seals, you've come to the right place!
Lead by our Prime Minister, Mr. Jim Oullie, a jolly old man who has no time for your shenanigans.

User avatar
Gauthier
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52887
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Gauthier » Fri May 24, 2013 10:27 am

Ifreann wrote:
Great Sofannia wrote:Fear (of being raped).

Gays are necessarily rapists, and it is abominable that I had to explain that.


Now I picture George Takei on YouTube saying "We're Gay... Not Desperate. Get Over Yourselves."
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

User avatar
Zilam
Diplomat
 
Posts: 828
Founded: Aug 18, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Zilam » Fri May 24, 2013 10:30 am

Lengleland wrote:
Zilam wrote:I don't dislike homosexuals. I know they are normal people, like you and I. I know they have their ups and downs, just like me. I know they love their partners in the same way I love my girlfriend.

The thing I really dislike is that everywhere I go, gay people are pushing their relationships in public. You know what? You want to love your partner, go for it. Kiss them, hug them, cuddle them, marry them. I don't care. But it is annoying when people are overly public with their relationship, whether they are gay or straight. Cut that crap out. Its annoying.


In the sense of people "grinding" or performing sexual acts in the public for everyone (children included) to see; I'm with you mate! But in the sense of kissing, hugging, cuddling etc. harmlessly; there is nothing wrong with that. You are being a little too hostile; I think.



Innocent displays of affection okay by me, no matter who is doing it. But full on making out, or as you said grinding, in public is annoying.
I'm not who I was.

User avatar
Solsteim
Envoy
 
Posts: 242
Founded: Dec 22, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Solsteim » Fri May 24, 2013 10:32 am

I have no real opinion or interest on the sexual preferences of another, unless i'm attracted to them of course. And i can't really see why it should bother people no one is being forced to be gay, to look at gay porn ect and should really just mind their own business. I do however get annoyed with the mannerisms of some gay men, but not because they are attracted to the same sex.
Male, British,
Pro: Universal healthcare, left wing economics, civil liberties, representative democracy, Atheism, choice, rehabilitation, science, Nuclear, solar and wave power, LGTB
Meh: Interventionist foreign policy, EU, monarchy, patriotism
Against: feminism, immigration, death penalty, conspiracy theorists, authoritarianism, first past the post, political correctness, discrimination, censorship, fascism, Thatcherism, fossil fuels, fundamentalism, nationalism, religion, circumcision
Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
My nation represents my own opinions where possible.
Everything by me is written in British English, because I am not an American!

User avatar
Sidhae
Minister
 
Posts: 2748
Founded: Sep 27, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Sidhae » Fri May 24, 2013 10:35 am

Lengleland wrote:
Zilam wrote:I don't dislike homosexuals. I know they are normal people, like you and I. I know they have their ups and downs, just like me. I know they love their partners in the same way I love my girlfriend.

The thing I really dislike is that everywhere I go, gay people are pushing their relationships in public. You know what? You want to love your partner, go for it. Kiss them, hug them, cuddle them, marry them. I don't care. But it is annoying when people are overly public with their relationship, whether they are gay or straight. Cut that crap out. Its annoying.


In the sense of people "grinding" or performing sexual acts in the public for everyone (children included) to see; I'm with you mate! But in the sense of kissing, hugging, cuddling etc. harmlessly; there is nothing wrong with that. You are being a little too hostile; I think.


It's a cultural thing, really. What may constitute appropriate public expressions in one place isn't necessarily so in another.

Besides, the streets and public places aren't a high school where you demonstratively walk in hands and kiss with your girlfriend/boyfriend just to show everyone that you have one and make them green with envy. When done by two adults, it seems immature in the least, and offensive in the worst.
Proud National Socialist. Blaming everything on the liberals since 2000.

The world is full of criminal enterprises and terrorist organizations. The most successful ones are known as states.

Life is like surfing the Internet - there's no meaning or purpose, yet you don't really want to quit either.

The fact that slaves are allowed to elect their masters does not abolish the division in masters and slaves.

Don't try to deride me by calling me an "-ist" or "-phobe" unless you are referring to a medical condition or are trying to compliment me.

Socially-liberal capitalist democracy DOES NOT equate to free society.

Contrary to popular belief, National Socialists aren't racists. They simply hate their own race less than others.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 10:37 am

Sidhae wrote:
Lengleland wrote:
In the sense of people "grinding" or performing sexual acts in the public for everyone (children included) to see; I'm with you mate! But in the sense of kissing, hugging, cuddling etc. harmlessly; there is nothing wrong with that. You are being a little too hostile; I think.


It's a cultural thing, really. What may constitute appropriate public expressions in one place isn't necessarily so in another.

Besides, the streets and public places aren't a high school where you demonstratively walk in hands and kiss with your girlfriend/boyfriend just to show everyone that you have one and make them green with envy. When done by two adults, it seems immature in the least, and offensive in the worst.

Since when are adults in public holding hands and kissing to show off their relationship to everyone? I would have figured they just like holding hands and kissing.

User avatar
Herrebrugh
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15203
Founded: Aug 24, 2007
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Herrebrugh » Fri May 24, 2013 10:38 am

Ifreann wrote:
Sidhae wrote:
It's a cultural thing, really. What may constitute appropriate public expressions in one place isn't necessarily so in another.

Besides, the streets and public places aren't a high school where you demonstratively walk in hands and kiss with your girlfriend/boyfriend just to show everyone that you have one and make them green with envy. When done by two adults, it seems immature in the least, and offensive in the worst.

Since when are adults in public holding hands and kissing to show off their relationship to everyone? I would have figured they just like holding hands and kissing.


Seriously this. It isn't a problem when a man and a women are holding hands, so why should it be one when a man and another man are?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


The Factbook of the Kingdom of the Herrebrugh Islands
Where the Website-Style Factbook Originated!

User avatar
Pope Joan
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19500
Founded: Mar 11, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Pope Joan » Fri May 24, 2013 10:44 am

Why dislike homosexuals?

Because they are not us.

Why dislike immigrants?

Because they are not us.

Why dislike intellectuals? Because they are not us.

Why tolerate erratically employed, lawbending, wifebeating drunkards?

Because they are NOT not us.
Last edited by Pope Joan on Fri May 24, 2013 10:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Life is difficult".

-M. Scott Peck

User avatar
Icirus
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 129
Founded: Dec 20, 2012
Ex-Nation

Why dislike homosexuals?

Postby Icirus » Fri May 24, 2013 11:04 am

Pope Joan wrote:Why dislike homosexuals?

Because they are not us.

Why dislike immigrants?

Because they are not us.

Why dislike intellectuals? Because they are not us.

Why tolerate erratically employed, lawbending, wifebeating drunkards?

Because they are NOT not us.


...So...Humans are not like you? Tell me, which animal is your relative? Obviously not any abe.
And who the hell is "us"? Clearly not any nice people, educated nor civilized people. We're the bloody Homo Sapiens, cause we prefer our own kind, instead of the chimpanzee.
yeet?

User avatar
Sidhae
Minister
 
Posts: 2748
Founded: Sep 27, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Sidhae » Fri May 24, 2013 11:05 am

Ifreann wrote:
Sidhae wrote:
It's a cultural thing, really. What may constitute appropriate public expressions in one place isn't necessarily so in another.

Besides, the streets and public places aren't a high school where you demonstratively walk in hands and kiss with your girlfriend/boyfriend just to show everyone that you have one and make them green with envy. When done by two adults, it seems immature in the least, and offensive in the worst.

Since when are adults in public holding hands and kissing to show off their relationship to everyone? I would have figured they just like holding hands and kissing.


Where I live, people prefer to be discreet about their relationships in public. It's a private thing and should stay private, away from public eyes, so you won't see many couples holding hands and kissing in public. Those who do are mostly under 20 years of age from my observation.

But as I said, it's a cultural thing.
Proud National Socialist. Blaming everything on the liberals since 2000.

The world is full of criminal enterprises and terrorist organizations. The most successful ones are known as states.

Life is like surfing the Internet - there's no meaning or purpose, yet you don't really want to quit either.

The fact that slaves are allowed to elect their masters does not abolish the division in masters and slaves.

Don't try to deride me by calling me an "-ist" or "-phobe" unless you are referring to a medical condition or are trying to compliment me.

Socially-liberal capitalist democracy DOES NOT equate to free society.

Contrary to popular belief, National Socialists aren't racists. They simply hate their own race less than others.

User avatar
Avenio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11113
Founded: Feb 08, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Avenio » Fri May 24, 2013 12:04 pm

Philitopia wrote:I actually read that story, it had nothing to do with homosexuals specifically.


Sure it did. I didn't get some of the details right, but the jist of it is there;

Wikipedia - "Sodomy - Medieval Christendom" wrote:The primarily sexual meaning of the word sodomia for Christians did not evolve before the 6th century AD. Roman Emperor Justinian I, in his novels no. 77 (dating 538) and no. 141 (dating 559) amended to his Corpus iuris civilis, and declared that Sodom's sin had been specifically same-sex activities and desire for them. He also linked "famines, earthquakes, and pestilences" upon cities as being due to "such crimes",[19] during a time of recent earthquakes and other disasters (see Extreme weather events of 535–536).

User avatar
Galloism
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 72184
Founded: Aug 20, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Galloism » Fri May 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Evil Incarnate wrote:I only dislike homos who try to tell me they are married but no more than thu dislike me for telling them to go into a room and produce a child then they can say they are married.

Sorry, child production =/= marriage

I believe even the Supreme Court found this argument humorous.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


User avatar
Tsuntion
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1939
Founded: Nov 10, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Tsuntion » Fri May 24, 2013 12:07 pm

Icirus wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Why dislike homosexuals?

Because they are not us.

Why dislike immigrants?

Because they are not us.

Why dislike intellectuals? Because they are not us.

Why tolerate erratically employed, lawbending, wifebeating drunkards?

Because they are NOT not us.


...So...Humans are not like you? Tell me, which animal is your relative? Obviously not any abe.
And who the hell is "us"? Clearly not any nice people, educated nor civilized people. We're the bloody Homo Sapiens, cause we prefer our own kind, instead of the chimpanzee.


Pope Joan was not being entirely serious.
I'm not a roleplayer, but check these out: The United Defenders League and The Versutian Federation.

The Emerald Dawn wrote:Jumpin' on the SOURCE-TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO MUFUKA! We be ridin' the rails, checkin' the trails, you get nothin' and your argument fails!

User avatar
Ponderosa
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1709
Founded: Feb 10, 2013
Anarchy

Postby Ponderosa » Fri May 24, 2013 12:08 pm

I'm kind of getting tired of these threads.
The Free Republic of Ponderosa
National Factbook | Map | Embassy | IIWiki | Wintreath
The Collection Collection | Guide to a Wiki-Style Factbook | Captions for Banners!
Political Compass | Gameplay Alignment
Social democrat - Social Libertarian - Agnostic Atheist - INTP - Runner
Retired WerePenguins wrote:That's the one thing I like about the WA; it allows me to shove my moral compass up your legislative branch, assuming a majority agrees.
Steve Prefontaine wrote:The best pace is a suicide pace, and today is a good day to die.
Christopher Hitchens wrote:Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 12:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Sorry, child production =/= marriage

I believe even the Supreme Court found this argument humorous.

To quote the transcripts: "rofl"

User avatar
Nidaria
Senator
 
Posts: 3503
Founded: Mar 30, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Nidaria » Fri May 24, 2013 12:09 pm

It is immoral and a perversion. The title might as well be "Why dislike pedophiles?"
"He who denies the existence of God has some reason for wishing that God did not exist." --St. Augustine
"There is only one difference between genius and stupidity: genius has limits." --Albert Einstein
"When statesmen forsake their own private conscience for the sake of their public duties... they lead their country by a short route to chaos." --St. Thomas More
Anti-gay, Pro-life, Traditionalist, Libertarian, Non-interventionist, Loyal Roman Catholic
Cosmopolitan/Nationalistic 25%
Secular/Fundamentalist 67%
Visionary/Reactionary 21%
Anarchistic/Authoritarian 6%
Communist/Capitalist 41%
Pacifist/Militaristic 7%
Ecological/Anthropocentric 52%

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 12:09 pm

Sidhae wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Since when are adults in public holding hands and kissing to show off their relationship to everyone? I would have figured they just like holding hands and kissing.


Where I live, people prefer to be discreet about their relationships in public. It's a private thing and should stay private, away from public eyes, so you won't see many couples holding hands and kissing in public. Those who do are mostly under 20 years of age from my observation.

But as I said, it's a cultural thing.

Doesn't really answer my question, though. Maybe most people where you live avoid public displays of affection. But what makes you think that those who don't are trying to show off their relationship? People kissing where you can see aren't necessarily doing it for your benefit.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 12:09 pm

Nidaria wrote:It is immoral and a perversion.

It is neither.

User avatar
Galloism
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 72184
Founded: Aug 20, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Galloism » Fri May 24, 2013 12:10 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Galloism wrote:I believe even the Supreme Court found this argument humorous.

To quote the transcripts: "rofl"

First, Cooper tried saying that marriage was supposed to be about procreation, and same-sex couples can't procreate—which would imply that the state could ban marriages between heterosexual couples incapable of having children. When Justice Elena Kagan asked whether states could ban couples over the age of 55 because they wouldn't be able to have kids, Cooper argued that "it is very rare that…both parties to the couple are infertile." The chamber erupted in laughter. "No really, because…if both the woman and the man are over 55, there are not a lot of children coming out of that marriage," Kagan said, and the chamber filled with laughter again. Justice Stephen Breyer was more blunt: "I mean, there are lots of people who get married who can't have children."
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


User avatar
Nidaria
Senator
 
Posts: 3503
Founded: Mar 30, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Nidaria » Fri May 24, 2013 12:11 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Nidaria wrote:It is immoral and a perversion.

It is neither.

You do not recognize absolute morality. A perversion is a sexual orientation other than one man and one woman.
"He who denies the existence of God has some reason for wishing that God did not exist." --St. Augustine
"There is only one difference between genius and stupidity: genius has limits." --Albert Einstein
"When statesmen forsake their own private conscience for the sake of their public duties... they lead their country by a short route to chaos." --St. Thomas More
Anti-gay, Pro-life, Traditionalist, Libertarian, Non-interventionist, Loyal Roman Catholic
Cosmopolitan/Nationalistic 25%
Secular/Fundamentalist 67%
Visionary/Reactionary 21%
Anarchistic/Authoritarian 6%
Communist/Capitalist 41%
Pacifist/Militaristic 7%
Ecological/Anthropocentric 52%

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 12:12 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:To quote the transcripts: "rofl"

First, Cooper tried saying that marriage was supposed to be about procreation, and same-sex couples can't procreate—which would imply that the state could ban marriages between heterosexual couples incapable of having children. When Justice Elena Kagan asked whether states could ban couples over the age of 55 because they wouldn't be able to have kids, Cooper argued that "it is very rare that…both parties to the couple are infertile." The chamber erupted in laughter. "No really, because…if both the woman and the man are over 55, there are not a lot of children coming out of that marriage," Kagan said, and the chamber filled with laughter again. Justice Stephen Breyer was more blunt: "I mean, there are lots of people who get married who can't have children."

So Kagan is the class clown? Awesome.

User avatar
Neutraligon
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 40513
Founded: Oct 01, 2011
New York Times Democracy

Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 24, 2013 12:12 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It is neither.

You do not recognize absolute morality. A perversion is a sexual orientation other than one man and one woman.


You don't get to define perversion.
If you want to call me by a nickname, call me Gon...or NS Batman.
Mod stuff: One Stop Rules Shop | Reppy's Sig Workshop | Getting Help Request
Just A Little though

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bradfordville, Cannot think of a name, Celritannia, Duvniask, Fartsniffage, Floofybit, Gran Bretanha e Irlanda, Greater Miami Shores 3, Habsburg Mexico, Hauthamatra, Hirota, Islamic Holy Sites, Kenmoria, Kubra, La Xinga, Lativs, Newne Carriebean7, Of The Ursalian Federation, Pholza, Stellar Colonies, The Grand Fifth Imperium, The Jamesian Republic, Trump Almighty, Umeria, Washington Resistance Army, Zurkerx

Advertisement

Remove ads